centenarystand 2,229 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Isnt it time UEFA were asking questions of the Scottish Football authorities as to why no assistance or help is being given to Glasgow Rangers Scotlands largest member club?Portsmouth were given a helping hand by the Football League , cant the SPL help Rangers in any way?Are UEFA aware that the football authorities here are going through Rangers demise with a fine toothcomb to find anything out of line with which they can punish the club.When any other Scottish club went into admin were they crucified by the authorities or were they given assistance?Other SPL member clubs are looking to change the current sanctions for clubs going into admin with the hidden agenda that this will severely punish Rangers further. Why is this happening all of a sudden and who is actually behind it?Surely UEFA should be taking an interest in Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster and asking a few questions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 There are two problems with that:1) UEFA will undoubtedly back the SFA2) There is no-one leading our club at the moment, so we can't defend ourselves against the SFA Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace1 49 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ach! They're all just a bunch of in each other's pockets Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
covbear 61 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Isnt it time UEFA were asking questions of the Scottish Football authorities as to why no assistance or help is being given to Glasgow Rangers Scotlands largest member club?Portsmouth were given a helping hand by the Football League , cant the SPL help Rangers in any way?Are UEFA aware that the football authorities here are going through Rangers demise with a fine toothcomb to find anything out of line with which they can punish the club.When any other Scottish club went into admin were they crucified by the authorities or were they given assistance?Other SPL member clubs are looking to change the current sanctions for clubs going into admin with the hidden agenda that this will severely punish Rangers further. Why is this happening all of a sudden and who is actually behind it?Surely UEFA should be taking an interest in Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster and asking a few questions.I think you know who is behind it mate But I know what you mean. It's open season on us at the moment. I actually don't want any help from the SPL/SFA - we saw their contempt for us in 2008. But they are making up all sorts of new punishments to hit us with when other clubs never faced the same sanctions. But if the past is anything to go by UEFA won't be interested. They're just as corrupt as the authorities here. We may have to go down the route of the courts if it comes to it, with all the connotations that will have for Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Whatever SFA throw at us, we will take the hit and move on. Id rather that than feel indebted to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoast Al 1 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If the SFA were able to offer assistance to a club (don't know if they can do it legally or afford it financially) it would be to the member clubs who are currently owed money by Rangers ( Dunfermilne, ICT & Dundee United ).Can't see a scenario were we would get help before these debts are settled first, and thin it would only be in a form of a loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,927 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fuck them, we'll do it the hard way!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 They can throw all they want at us, we will still be here next season and the season after that winning titles.We all know who is behind it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Stop looking for answers elsewhere! The SFA and SPL will do fk all as there are to many other Chairmen looking in and saying there but for the grace of god go I !Hearts, Dumfermline, Kilmarnock are all on shooggly nails; Dundee United (while they hate us) and Aberdeen are getting propped up by there respective owners; Motherwell have been through this, St. Mirren narrowly avoided this by selling their land, St. Johnstone are well run and like us, Hibs are financially well run and money will drive them (Rod Petrie the financial god - and shit of a man) , Inverness seem to play with a straight bat - and them!No-one will want to see us hammered (what they will want to do is make sure we cant go bust again cause it hurst them to much) they may try to change voting powers - but in the end Money talks and there are only two real teams with any clout! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 What's happened to uefa's jedgement on septic? I'm still waiting TBH I would trust them less than I woukld the sfa and that's saying something! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The taigs are pushing for UEFA to investigate US.Despite them changing rules left right and centre to punish us, they are greeting that the scottish authorities won't punish us enough. IE liquidate us.Fuck them, we'll have a party when this is resolved and laugh at them when all their efforts come to nothing.Their jellys no set and their ice cream is tainted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueoutthedome 87 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did the league not help Gretna with cash Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I believe they did so they could complete the fixtures Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGersForever 3 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 What type of help?Did the league not help Gretna with cashEven i could have paid Gretna's first team wages. Rangers is another story. I doubt the SPL/SFA has those sort of funds available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueoutthedome 87 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 What type of help?The point is they helped them all they want to do to us is destroy us.Even i could have paid Gretna's first team wages. Rangers is another story. I doubt the SPL/SFA has those sort of funds available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy 12 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If the SFA were able to offer assistance to a club (don't know if they can do it legally or afford it financially) it would be to the member clubs who are currently owed money by Rangers ( Dunfermilne, ICT & Dundee United ).Can't see a scenario were we would get help before these debts are settled first, and thin it would only be in a form of a loan.I honestly cant see them backing Rangers atm. There is just too much of a mess with HMRC /Whyte ringfenced monies etc tied into all this and as someone said, they will back the SFA first. I am not sure if UEFA backed other clubs when potential tax liabilities were involved but if it was just financial hardship with no other circumstances they would back us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoast Al 1 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think it was the SPL gave Gretna the money for finishing 12th early to complete their fixtures not the SFA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,201 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 There should be a FIFA inquiry into the way Scottish Football is being run, from top to bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,201 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think it was the SPL gave Gretna the money for finishing 12th early to complete their fixtures not the SFA.That sounds about right, they simply forwarded the money they would have been getting at the end of the season, which seems fair enough. And therefore if we needed the same help, we should get it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoast Al 1 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That sounds about right, they simply forwarded the money they would have been getting at the end of the season, which seems fair enough. And therefore if we needed the same help, we should get it?Firstly the wage cuts guaranteed the completion of this years SPL fixtures so it is a different scenario, with the second point being have Duff and Phelps approached the SPL for early payment, if not why would the SPL volunteer it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,201 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Firstly the wage cuts guaranteed the completion of this years SPL fixtures so it is a different scenario, with the second point being have Duff and Phelps approached the SPL for early payment, if not why would the SPL volunteer it?Did Gretna approach the SPL or the other way round? Anyway it is a mute point as we solved the problem ourselves thanks to our players, but still you have to wonder if it had come to it, what would the SPL have done. In some ways, it would have been interesting to find out, and to see the reaction from certain quarters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The most amazing thing is that it took months for the SPL/SFA to even remotely think about doing anything with regard to the situation at Hearts, yet they jumped onto us in no time at all, in fact, they actually managed to investigate and report within two weeks! I seem to remember they used to take about 6 months to convene a hearing to consider a suspension for Marc Rieper a few years ago.It stinks, beyond words. (well, almost) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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