stuart54 218 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Superb reply. Please send it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,270 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 An excellent post.... brilliant..... well said mate.No, fuck him, leave in the "Intelligence" bit.Send it to the piece of shit Lawyer who was sat next to him...... he's sure to get it then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy 68 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well said ES. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbblue 167 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 tweet it to him, in fact we shoudl all tweet it to him...the feckin charlatan! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,407 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well said. Although I am not so sure I believe ambition is his motive. £££ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 945 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Dear Steven Naismith,I read with increasing agitation and anger your statement about your objection to transfer to the “newco” Rangers under a TUPE transfer. Let’s leave aside any argument about an employee’s obligations under TUPE to inform the employer at the point of transfer about any objection, because I know you’ll just counter with the legal responsibility of the employer to consult adequately with the employees. It’s a legal minefield and one that the courts will inevitably rule on.However, before moving on to your statement, I would like to start by making one thing clear –I have absolutely no issue with you leaving the football club. Indeed, I believe that should you and other high earners stay, the protection to your salary afforded under the TUPE legislation may well kill my football club. Added to that fact, your very generous agreement to accept a wage reduction last season kept alive hopes of exiting administration via a CVA route. I thank you and your colleagues for that sacrifice.However, I cannot countenance why you came out and said the things you did in your statement. You stated that you believe you owe “no loyalty” to the “newco” because it “has no history”. Notwithstanding the damage that this kind of “no history” statement inflicts on the club and fans, your views on what you should be loyal to are astounding and baffling to say the least.Perhaps you can enlighten me on loyalty and what being loyal means as a professional footballer? I would have thought it would be to your manager, your teammates, the fans, the staff within the club. I can imagine a certain loyalty to those who pay your wages but in reality we are in fact loyal to things that are tangible to us –people, friends, colleagues and our beliefs. Based on your experiences of being a professional footballer, to what extent are you ever in fact loyal to a “corporate body”? Let me expand on this for you and ask you some questions:1 –In times gone by you may have walked out of your large house into one of the many luxury cars that was paid for by Rangers Football Club and driven to Murray Park. Upon arrival or prior to leaving, you may have sat with your teammates and enjoyed a staff meal prepared by the kitchen staff. You may also have gone into the dressing rooms to get ready for training, and put on your freshly cleaned and pressed training kit. Let me ask you this –who did you thank for these things? Did you thank the “corporate body” that paid your wages, or paid the wages of the staff who pampered you? No. You praised yourself for the hard work you put in at Kilmarnock, the Rangers manager who signed you,the Rangers manager who plays you in the 1 st team, your teammates for making it a good place to play football and the individual staff involved for looking after you so well. You may well have paused and and thanked the institution that is Rangers Football Club for the privileged position you held –but I’ll bet £1000 of my money against £10 of yours that you didn’t pause and thank the “corporate body” who owned Rangers.2 –You have previously had 2 lengthy spells on the sidelines with injury in your time at Rangers. I would imagine you were grateful for the contract which saw you receive full pay as well as unparalleled access to medical specialists and physio to speed up your return to the 1 st team?I imagine it also took great mental fortitude on your part to come through that. Again though, let me ask you this –did you thank the “corporate body” who paid your wages on time prior to and on your return to the 1 st team? Did you thank the “corporate body” for the access to that unparalleled medical support? No, of course not. You would have thanked your agent for negotiating the contract and accepted that your treatment during injury was part and parcel of the standard of treatment you expect to receive as a player of Rangers Football Club. Who provides that excellence Steven –is it a corporate body? It may be financed by the corporate body, but it is the staff involved and the culture of success ingrained in an institution over 140 years that provides the standard of excellence.3 –And on to your teammates and manager Steven. During the wins, the losses, the titles, the heartbreak and the European adventures –did you win and lose as a team with your teammates and manager? Of course you did. Did the corporate body that oversaw all of those achievements, mishaps and adventures cross your mind then Steven? Did you thank the faceless entity that constitutes a corporate body when you won on the park? No, you did not.4 –The fans Steven. Did we die with the old corporate body? Did we pass away when Sevco transferred all of the Rangers history, memories, staff, stadium, training ground into a new corporate body? Did the fans who worshipped you suddenly become obsolete, a thing of the past, something that no longer exists? No we did not.With all of that in mind, I find myself wanting to ask you the following question:Why is the name of the corporate body owning Rangers Football Club suddenly such an issue to you?The answer is very, very obvious. Quite simply, it no longer suits your footballing ambition to be employed by a football club who may be playing outwith the SPL and Europe for the next 3 seasons.I actually understand that rationale and wish you had said that, and only that. Leave, by all means –there’s the door. We will carry on without you.The thing is Steven; everyone involved will prove to you that the great institution that is Rangers Football Club will be the same today,tomorrow, the next day and hopefully for the next 140 years. Rangers Football Club has a past, a present and a future.Insulting our intelligence by claiming otherwise, just to suit your own selfish agenda, was the worst possible way to say goodbye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 945 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 ^^^ New cleaner version ^^^ can only send when on laptop later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterbear91 18 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Absolutely spot on mate, I sincerely hope you send that, and I hope more than anything he replies with some sort of rationale. I won't hold my breath on the latter tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbmyers 16 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 His behaviour makes me wonder if he ever was a real Rangers fan in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 945 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Absolutely spot on mate, I sincerely hope you send that, and I hope more than anything he replies with some sort of rationale. I won't hold my breath on the latter tho.I will send it as soon as someone gives me an avenue to do so - I don't have Twitter, don't have an email address to send it to and need some help from Admin or someone else in the know.Cheers guysevens Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Proddie1690 132 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Dear Steven Naismith,I read with increasing agitation and anger your statement about your objection to transfer to the “newco” Rangers under a TUPE transfer.However, before moving on to that statement, I would like to start by making one thing clear –I have absolutely no issue with you leaving the football club. Indeed, I believe that should you and other high earners stay, the protection to your salary afforded under the TUPE legislation may well kill my football club. Added to that fact, your very generous agreement to accept a wage reduction last season kept alive hopes of exiting administration via a CVA route. I thank you and your colleagues for that sacrifice.However, I cannot countenance (that means “understand” Steven) why you came out and said the things you did in your statement. You stated that you believe you owe “no loyalty” to the “newco” because it “has no history”. Notwithstanding the damage that this kind of “no history” statement inflicts on the club and fans, your assertion about loyalty is astounding and baffling to say the least.Perhaps you can enlighten me on a few issues and perhaps you can explain to me how you feel about the following situations:1 –In times gone you may have walked out of your large house into one of the many luxury cars that was paid for by Rangers Football Club, drove to Murray Park, ate your staff meals prepared by the kitchen staff and wore your freshly cleaned and pressed training kit. Let me ask you this - did you thank the corporate body that paid your wages, or paid the wages of the staff who pampered you? No. You praised yourself for the hard work you put in at Kilmarnock, the Rangers manager who signed you and the individual staff involved for looking after you so well. You may well have paused and and thanked the institution that is Rangers Football Club for the privileged position you held –but I’ll bet £1000 of my money against £10 of yours that you didn’t pause and thank the corporate body who owned Rangers.2 –You have previously had 2 lengthy spells on the sidelines with injury in your time at Rangers. I would imagine you were grateful for the contract which saw you receive full pay as well as unparalleled access to medical specialists and physio to speed up your return. I imagine it took great mental fortitude (strength, Steven) on your part to come through that. Again though, let me ask you this –did you thank the corporate body who paid your wages on time, or who paid for access to that unparalleled medical support? No, of course not. You would have thanked your agent for negotiating the contract and accepted that it was part and parcel of the standard of treatment you receive as a player of Rangers Football Club. Who provides that excellence Steven –is it a corporate body, or is it the staff involved and the culture of success ingrained in an institution over 140 years? You know the answer.3 –And on to your teammates and manager Steven. During the wins, the losses, the titles, the heartbreak and the European adventures –did you win and lose as a team with your teammates and manager? Of course you did. Did the corporate body that oversaw all of those achievements, mishaps and adventures cross your mind then Steven? No, it did not.4 –The fans Steven. Did we die with the old corporate body? Did we pass away when Sevco transferred all of the Rangers history, memories, staff, stadium, training ground into a new corporate body? Did the fans who worshipped you suddenly become obsolete, a thing of the past, something that no longer exists? No we did not.With all of that in mind, I find myself wanting to ask you the following question:Why is the name of the corporate body owning Rangers Football Club suddenly such an issue to you?The answer is very, very obvious. It was never an issue for you before. Quite simply, it no longer suits your footballing ambition to be employed by a football club who may be playing outwith the SPL and Europe for the next 3 seasons.I actually understand that rationale and wish you had said that, and only that. Leave, by all means –there’s the door. We will carry on without you.The thing is Steven; I’ve proven to you that the great institution that was Rangers Football Club is the same today as it was yesterday.Insulting our intelligence by claiming otherwise, just to suit your own selfish agenda, was the worst possible way to say goodbye.Excellent letter, could not have put it better myself. Hes bound to know deep in his soul thats exactly how it is, andf that hes taking the pure piss out of us, fuck him and the horse he rode in on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingger 2 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Took the liberty of tweeting the link to him, hope that`s ok op. Don`t expect a reply from him though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Good letter mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,712 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm adding this thread to my favourites. Fucking excellent post that sums the traitorous rat up perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw 22 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If he does get a big signing on fee does anybody think he'll donate some to us or all of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw 22 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If he does get a big signing on fee does anybody think he'll donate some to us or all of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnic3856 358 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Countenance doesn't mean understand.Verb:Admit as acceptable or possible,Makes perfect sense in context but your average footballer prob won't grasp that so to describe it as "Understand" makes perfect sense to anyone with a degree of intelligence, the OP is trying to dumb down the description of a complicated verb so that a treacherous rat bastard may understand it, I hope you follow me timmy xx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Good post mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC-Blue 0 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Too good for Naismith, I wouldn't give him the time of day Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If he does get a big signing on fee does anybody think he'll donate some to us or all of it?No, we're dead remember. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 'Rangers are the same club as ever but sadly they will be at a much lower level for a while and I want to progress my career. I will continue to be a fan of the same Rangers I was as a boy.' Something along those lines is really all it would have taken from Naismith to get wished luck and have no resentment towards him by the majority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 945 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 'Rangers are the same club as ever but sadly they will be at a much lower level for a while and I want to progress my career. I will continue to be a fan of the same Rangers I was as a boy.' Something along those lines is really all it would have taken from Naismith to get wished luck and have no resentment towards him by the majority.Bingo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxterboy 476 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Dear Steven Naismith,I read with increasing agitation and anger your statement about your objection to transfer to the “newco” Rangers under a TUPE transfer. Let’s leave aside any argument about an employee’s obligations under TUPE to inform the employer at the point of transfer about any objection, because I know you’ll just counter with the legal responsibility of the employer to consult adequately with the employees. It’s a legal minefield and one that the courts will inevitably rule on.However, before moving on to your statement, I would like to start by making one thing clear –I have absolutely no issue with you leaving the football club. Indeed, I believe that should you and other high earners stay, the protection to your salary afforded under the TUPE legislation may well kill my football club. Added to that fact, your very generous agreement to accept a wage reduction last season kept alive hopes of exiting administration via a CVA route. I thank you and your colleagues for that sacrifice.However, I cannot countenance why you came out and said the things you did in your statement. You stated that you believe you owe “no loyalty” to the “newco” because it “has no history”. Notwithstanding the damage that this kind of “no history” statement inflicts on the club and fans, your views on what you should be loyal to are astounding and baffling to say the least.Perhaps you can enlighten me on loyalty and what being loyal means as a professional footballer? I would have thought it would be to your manager, your teammates, the fans, the staff within the club. I can imagine a certain loyalty to those who pay your wages but in reality we are in fact loyal to things that are tangible to us –people, friends, colleagues and our beliefs. Based on your experiences of being a professional footballer, to what extent are you ever in fact loyal to a “corporate body”? Let me expand on this for you and ask you some questions:1 –In times gone by you may have walked out of your large house into one of the many luxury cars that was paid for by Rangers Football Club and driven to Murray Park. Upon arrival or prior to leaving, you may have sat with your teammates and enjoyed a staff meal prepared by the kitchen staff. You may also have gone into the dressing rooms to get ready for training, and put on your freshly cleaned and pressed training kit. Let me ask you this –who did you thank for these things? Did you thank the “corporate body” that paid your wages, or paid the wages of the staff who pampered you? No. You praised yourself for the hard work you put in at Kilmarnock, the Rangers manager who signed you,the Rangers manager who plays you in the 1 st team, your teammates for making it a good place to play football and the individual staff involved for looking after you so well. You may well have paused and and thanked the institution that is Rangers Football Club for the privileged position you held –but I’ll bet £1000 of my money against £10 of yours that you didn’t pause and thank the “corporate body” who owned Rangers.2 –You have previously had 2 lengthy spells on the sidelines with injury in your time at Rangers. I would imagine you were grateful for the contract which saw you receive full pay as well as unparalleled access to medical specialists and physio to speed up your return to the 1 st team?I imagine it also took great mental fortitude on your part to come through that. Again though, let me ask you this –did you thank the “corporate body” who paid your wages on time prior to and on your return to the 1 st team? Did you thank the “corporate body” for the access to that unparalleled medical support? No, of course not. You would have thanked your agent for negotiating the contract and accepted that your treatment during injury was part and parcel of the standard of treatment you expect to receive as a player of Rangers Football Club. Who provides that excellence Steven –is it a corporate body? It may be financed by the corporate body, but it is the staff involved and the culture of success ingrained in an institution over 140 years that provides the standard of excellence.3 –And on to your teammates and manager Steven. During the wins, the losses, the titles, the heartbreak and the European adventures –did you win and lose as a team with your teammates and manager? Of course you did. Did the corporate body that oversaw all of those achievements, mishaps and adventures cross your mind then Steven? Did you thank the faceless entity that constitutes a corporate body when you won on the park? No, you did not.4 –The fans Steven. Did we die with the old corporate body? Did we pass away when Sevco transferred all of the Rangers history, memories, staff, stadium, training ground into a new corporate body? Did the fans who worshipped you suddenly become obsolete, a thing of the past, something that no longer exists? No we did not.With all of that in mind, I find myself wanting to ask you the following question:Why is the name of the corporate body owning Rangers Football Club suddenly such an issue to you?The answer is very, very obvious. Quite simply, it no longer suits your footballing ambition to be employed by a football club who may be playing outwith the SPL and Europe for the next 3 seasons.I actually understand that rationale and wish you had said that, and only that. Leave, by all means –there’s the door. We will carry on without you.The thing is Steven; everyone involved will prove to you that the great institution that is Rangers Football Club will be the same today,tomorrow, the next day and hopefully for the next 140 years. Rangers Football Club has a past, a present and a future.Insulting our intelligence by claiming otherwise, just to suit your own selfish agenda, was the worst possible way to say goodbye.considering everything that has occurred in the last few days with naismith, it is impossible to argue with your conclusions regarding him; and in normal circumstances, not only would i agree with your letter, i would offer to deliver it to him by hand for you.but there is fuck all normal about the world we Rangers fans currently find ourselves in.it is a quagmire, and because of this, is it at all possible, that Naismith has an endgame that is, in fact, the antithesis of what he's said and shouldn't, at this point in time, be taken at face value?Naismith, is a Rangers player and also, until the last few days, considered to be a life long fan.so what is the nature of a Rangers fan?a prominant trait is, unlike the scum, our individualism - we don't need a fucking pope telling us how to think and act - we are free thinkers.now while this has contributed to our achievement as the most successful team in scotland and, as our five stars attest - the world, there is, however, a downside to it - it is ruthlessly divisive!one gander at RM and u will see explosive passion and contrary opinion on everything from the owners, to players, to the ibrox tea lady. each of us know what's best for the club we love and god help anyone who disagrees with it. every one of us, from leggo to dingwall, will use whatever power we have to to achieve our end, even to the extent of slagging each other, if we think it's best for the club.so why should naismith, if he truly is a fan, be any different?if, eg, he has a bond with someone like walter, and believes he is the way forward, and views Green as an asset stripper who has no interest in the club other than profit margin, then what better strategy for defeating an asset stripper than by blocking aquisition of those same assets? and naismith himself is one such asset - a prime one.and, if all players follow naismith's lead, then implementing this strategy to usurp a perceived asset stripper is a compelling one. everything naismith has said and done recently contradicts everything he appeared to be.so why?mibbee, as most are suggesting, he is a hypocritical wee scrote only interested in money and himself.but mibbee he is, just like every other fan, using the most effective power he has to fuck Green - somebody he doesn't want, and help establish and play for those he believes to be the better option for the club he loves. has he put such a gambit into play? fuck knows but, if he has, we will know shortly.is the stamp on your letter? 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The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Was just listening to the Saturdays (i am a girl) and realised bizarrely the lyrics to Ego, kinda fit Whitaker and Naismith. Lyrics to Ego :We used to go togetherLooking after each otherI thought that you were betterLook at you (look at you, look at you, look at you)You used to be so laid backYou always kept it so coolI loved you coz of all thatThat's the truth (that's the truth, that's the truth, that's the truth)I don't think you know where your head isI was always there to help you break the fallAnd now you wanna pretend that your a superstarAnd now you want us to end what's taken you this farDon't tell me that your done as far as we goYou need to have a sit down with your egoWhen everyone's gone and you are by yourselfYou know that your gonna come to me for helpDon't tell me that it's time for going soloYou need to knock some sense into your ego (ego, ego, ego) YeahYou act like you're on fire, living your delusionYou just need you to take you higheroff you go (off you go, off you go) YeahYou can't make the call when you're readyI will not be here to help you break the fallAnd now you wanna pretend that your a superstarAnd now you want us to end what's taken you this farDon't tell me that your done as far as we goYou need to have a sit down with your egoWhen everyone's gone and you are by yourselfYou know that your gonna come to me for helpDon't tell me that it's time for going soloYou need to knock some sense into your ego (ego, ego) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornelius11 74 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Was just listening to the Saturdays (i am a girl) and realised bizarrely the lyrics to Ego, kinda fit Whitaker and Naismith. Lyrics to Ego :We used to go togetherLooking after each otherI thought that you were betterLook at you (look at you, look at you, look at you)You used to be so laid backYou always kept it so coolI loved you coz of all thatThat's the truth (that's the truth, that's the truth, that's the truth)I don't think you know where your head isI was always there to help you break the fallAnd now you wanna pretend that your a superstarAnd now you want us to end what's taken you this farDon't tell me that your done as far as we goYou need to have a sit down with your egoWhen everyone's gone and you are by yourselfYou know that your gonna come to me for helpDon't tell me that it's time for going soloYou need to knock some sense into your ego (ego, ego, ego) YeahYou act like you're on fire, living your delusionYou just need you to take you higheroff you go (off you go, off you go) YeahYou can't make the call when you're readyI will not be here to help you break the fallAnd now you wanna pretend that your a superstarAnd now you want us to end what's taken you this farDon't tell me that your done as far as we goYou need to have a sit down with your egoWhen everyone's gone and you are by yourselfYou know that your gonna come to me for helpDon't tell me that it's time for going soloYou need to knock some sense into your ego (ego, ego)"You need to have a sit down with the newco" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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