allanh91 75 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Did they actually falsify their attendance figures to avoid paying tax or is it a rumour.Brought up the subject and now look like a knob cos I cant back it up. If in wrong forum, admin please remove. Just arguing about 'integrity'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick1271 532 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 They did under the Kelly regime when you could pay at the gate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanh91 75 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Hmm. Fanny clearly doesn't know his own clubs dodgy history then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochBear 1,613 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Did they actually falsify their attendance figures to avoid paying tax or is it a rumour.Brought up the subject and now look like a knob cos I cant back it up. If in wrong forum, admin please remove. Just arguing about 'integrity'.Difficult to prove, but everyone in football knew(not just Big Jock) they would record an attendance of 30000 when the place was packed with 50000+, and they let priests in for free as a "man of the cloth", more likely they just wanted to be close to the ball boys.Pedo bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick1271 532 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Hmm. Fanny clearly doesn't know his own clubs dodgy history then.They have a lot of history that they want to forget . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWRFC 101 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Tv evidence used to show crowds of 35,000 but next day in the daily Rhebal the official receipts were 16,900! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiepvalwood 33 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 2 words to your Bheast chum. Penn State. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasie 103 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Difficult to prove, but everyone in football knew(not just Big Jock) they would record an attendance of 30000 when the place was packed with 50000+, and they let priests in for free as a "man of the cloth", more likely they just wanted to be close to the ball boys.Pedo bastards.It was more blatant than that. If they'd recorded 30,000 that would be up for debate. They'd record 18,000 and everyone would think "what the fuck?" - hard to estimate crowds by looking at them in the days before all seater stadiums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWRFC 101 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Don't argue with him!... There is nothing debatable about Rangers and pacific shelf 595 just tell him to fuck off he's a tosser! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 In the Eighties they used to joke about it on the radio. Saying there was 25,000 at matches when the commentators were saying there was at least 50 odd thousand there. They would judge it on that the smeltic end and the bungle being full alone was at least around 30 thousand or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 They fiddled the books , the attendances and their boys and now their fiddling about with their special word integrity and rhegan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,865 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Difficult to prove, but everyone in football knew(not just Big Jock) they would record an attendance of 30000 when the place was packed with 50000+, and they let priests in for free as a "man of the cloth", more likely they just wanted to be close to the ball boys.Pedo bastards.To be honest this is a bit of an exaggeration. They certainly were guilty of under-declaring their gates. It was an open secret as it were but not quite in the same degree as the "Seville calculator". Obviously they had to keep it "reasonable" but we often joked about it in the late 60s and 70s. When it suited them, they would say to the press "must be nearly 90K in the ground" when we all knew it was no where near that figure. Other times, again when it suited them, the crowd figure could be 5 or 10 thousand more than declared. Over a season, I'm pretty certain that the average under-declared figure was probably in the region of a few thousand per week. I should add that I'm old enough to know better than most and I'm not trying to be clever, just realistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanh91 75 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Cheers for the input guys.Basically called me a liar and claimed they were the gfitw and all that shite.They couldn't fill their stadium after they won the league and we packed 47k in for a friendly. Do the maths. . . Yknow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearinoz 10 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I can tell you for a fact from the mouth of a very close family member I know (a bluenose and older bear) who was unfortunate enough to have to be part of a group to do work on their (the mhanks) stadium in the late 60's that through that era and into the early 70's old man kelly was offered automated gates and declined as he said "why would I want to record the numbers entering", it was a well known fact they diddled the figures and on purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 The shame of Big Jock is enough to end all argumentsThey really should show some humility and empathy instead of acting like nothing happenedSick bastards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Celtic have refused to give the official attendance for the games against Norwich and Inter Milan for fear of public humilation. They are thought to be the worse attendances in their history. They lost a staggering amount of money hosting a star studded Inter Milan side and none of the punters turned up because they were all out buying school uniforms. The Club are rotten to the core. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 ...and where did all the undeclarable cash go? Wee brown envelopes,tax dodging bassas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWRFC 101 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 The shame of Big Jock is enough to end all argumentsThey really should show some humility and empathy instead of acting like nothing happenedSick bastardsI agree !... Shameful sick bastards... They have no humility!Rotten to the core! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeWallaceRFC 3,920 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Look on any site, none of them have the official attendance. Only person to say anything was Alison Robbie on Twitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel gabriel amato 240 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Simple answer don't talk to filth! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindhouse 97 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 A hate people who cant spell paedophile But FTP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango 7 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Cheers for the input guys.Basically called me a liar and claimed they were the gfitw and all that shite.They couldn't fill their stadium after they won the league and we packed 47k in for a friendly. Do the maths. . . Yknow?Is this what you do on a Friday night? Sit on Facebook and argue with one of those mhanky bastards! Don't lower yourself to that mobs level. Dingy the vermin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasie 103 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Look on any site, none of them have the official attendance. Only person to say anything was Alison Robbie on Twitter.So what does she say the attendance was?I've got it into my head there were 17,000 at the Norwich game and 20,000 at the Inter game. Hardly the worst attendances in their history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeWallaceRFC 3,920 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 So what does she say the attendance was?I've got it into my head there were 17,000 at the Norwich game and 20,000 at the Inter game. Hardly the worst attendances in their history.She said almost 53,000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochBear 1,613 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 To be honest this is a bit of an exaggeration. They certainly were guilty of under-declaring their gates. It was an open secret as it were but not quite in the same degree as the "Seville calculator". Obviously they had to keep it "reasonable" but we often joked about it in the late 60s and 70s. When it suited them, they would say to the press "must be nearly 90K in the ground" when we all knew it was no where near that figure. Other times, again when it suited them, the crowd figure could be 5 or 10 thousand more than declared. Over a season, I'm pretty certain that the average under-declared figure was probably in the region of a few thousand per week. I should add that I'm old enough to know better than most and I'm not trying to be clever, just realistic.To be honest it's not. I too am old enough to remember what they did, I'm originally from the East End and have been going to Ibrox since the early 60's and it's well known they fiddled the true attendances down to avoid tax implications and pay for the directors jollies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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