CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Give them their due - they are triers straw clutchers.Fixed that for ya'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh_capet 341 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 So they responded by basically confirming all these malicious lies.Exactly what I was going to say. It's time this vile organisation was brought down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Exactly what I was going to say. It's time this vile organisation was brought down.No - it just needs a root and branch gutting.You need only recall the numerous high-profile resignations over the years to see that something in the state of Denmark stinks.One "branch" at the top of the tree has been infected by the greedybastarditis (that's Latin) disease. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The same RST of 'Yankee Go Home' fame??? Why would anyone want to enter a debate or discussion with people who put self-interest before the interest of the club?To be fair, i dont think it will go well. But by extending the branch, they have 2 options. Refuse it in which case it shed them in a bad light. Accept it and we can then ask the questions we all want to ask which will expose the scheme.If they are so confident it wont expose anything, then they will go for option 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 To be fair, i dont think it will go well. But by extending the branch, they have 2 options. Refuse it in which case it shed them in a bad light. Accept it and we can then ask the questions we all want to ask which will expose the scheme.If they are so confident it wont expose anything, then they will go for option 2. Think it will pan out.................They will not replyThey will give the stock reply, join the trust and find out.One of their most vocal members (well recently) will not even reply to a direct post on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just read OP again. They did not actually refute a single one of these malicious lies lol.I aint gonna totally slate them but they REALLY should have read that email out loud to themselves before hitting send. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley 1,402 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If you are investing £500 or more why would you use that option.Go straight to the club and you'll get shares in YOUR name and not a part nameless share of a larger holding.This should only interest those who can't afford a minimum of £500 at this moment.Would be better to wait until any resale of shares come on to the market and you could then buy less than £500 and they would be in your name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Think it will pan out.................They will not replyThey will give the stock reply, join the trust and find out.One of their most vocal members (well recently) will not even reply to a direct post on here.and claim we have an agenda....we we do... its called wanting the best for RANGERS. Not whats best for a select few members of a supporters trust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 1600 members and they think they are the voice of the fans . . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm not investing, I just don't have a spare £500 to do this (or £125 to join the RST scheme either)However, from what I understand, if you buy during the share issue, then any money you invest will go to the club as you are buying directly from them i.e. the seller. If, after the public sale is over, you buy from someone who bought the shares directly from the club, then you are are giving your money to them. You will still own the shares you bought, but your money will go the individual, not the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm not investing, I just don't have a spare £500 to do this (or £125 to join the RST scheme either)However, from what I understand, if you buy during the share issue, then any money you invest will go to the club as you are buying directly from them i.e. the seller.If, after the public sale is over, you buy from someone who bought the shares directly from the club, then you are are giving your money to them.You will still own the shares you bought, but your money will go the individual, not the club.Yes the way the trust have been buying shares since the day they started........buying from the marketplace and the club not making a penny.........yet they say give them the money just now and they will buy shares from the club, but not in your name.So question to the trust.......after the initial share issue...........what will happen to the trust, will they stop the purchase of shares as the club will not make a penny from them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 1600 members and they think they are the voice of the fans . . . .If you don't like what the trust does then join it and change it from the inside, rather than standing outside shouting at them. I'm not a member either but I always find it odd that there are plenty with great ideas about what the RST should be about but aren't willing to try and change it themselves. Actions speak louder than words folks, just like a vote, if you don't use it then you can't complain when others do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Question for Fury (or anyone else involved with RST, just mentioning Chris as i know he'd on here)Will the Trust be providing a FULL list of every single fan that gives them £125 (or more) and a confirmation of how many shares are purchased. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Aw for fuck sake If you want to buy shares in the Rangers, do it through the main club site.All these splinter groups should be fucked off.I'm a RANGERS SUPPORTER,not a member of that group,this group etc! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If you don't like what the trust does then join it and change it from the inside, rather than standing outside shouting at them.I'm not a member either but I always find it odd that there are plenty with great ideas about what the RST should be about but aren't willing to try and change it themselves.Actions speak louder than words folks, just like a vote, if you don't use it then you can't complain when others do.i'll keep my tenner thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yes the way the trust have been buying shares since the day they started........buying from the marketplace and the club not making a penny.........yet they say give them the money just now and they will buy shares from the club, but not in your name.So question to the trust.......after the initial share issue...........what will happen to the trust, will they stop the purchase of shares as the club will not make a penny from themNail. Head. Hammered onto same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If you don't like what the trust does then join it and change it from the inside, rather than standing outside shouting at them.I'm not a member either but I always find it odd that there are plenty with great ideas about what the RST should be about but aren't willing to try and change it themselves.Actions speak louder than words folks, just like a vote, if you don't use it then you can't complain when others do.Maybe you should direct that question at the numerous of the "old originals" of the RST who have left (there was even a six-man RST Board exodus about two summers ago). They tried to change from within but gave up.Ask them why they gave up.Ask them if there was a common denominator behind their exits.Ask them if 'the common denominator' is still there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Like any organisation which has a board, the majority rules, get enough people behind you, you can change the direction the organisation takes or remove members who stand in the way of change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Like any organisation which has a board, the majority rules, get enough people behind you, you can change the direction the organisation takes or remove members who stand in the way of change.As the six (count them) exiting Board members from two summers ago might respond, "Aye.....heard it!"One resignation from the RST Board is all that is required for The Busted Flush sea-going juggernaut to be turned around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Mr Dingwall is after money; our money - unless of course Rangers benefits, and Rangers ONLY: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,135 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 What a fucking shambles our trust is! Seriously what has went throug their minds if they think this is the best and most viable option for fans investing in Rangers?They are practically conning folk who can't buy the shares at the 500 quid rate! I would rather chip in with 5 guys from here 100 quid each for the 500 quid then put it into an orginisation that's meant to be for the fans! That's a bad day in all honesty.I can guarentee if the The Aluko Man, Boss and a couple of others got a q&a session with the trust on here it would end any credibility the trust had! They would tear them a new arsehole Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,358 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Having just been banned from FF for asking questions about the RST and subsequently migrating here it's refreshing to see that not ever forum is censored to death. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The way I understand it is this - there is x amount of shares available for the IPO. After that, what ever shares you own are yours, including all the large shareholdrs! charles Green etc.. So if you d buy shares after the IPO, you will be buying off a shareholdr, not the club.So the RST are right in what they are saying, regarding that anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,358 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The way I understand it is this - there is x amount of shares available for the IPO. After that, what ever shares you own are yours, including all the large shareholdrs! charles Green etc.. So if you d buy shares after the IPO, you will be buying off a shareholdr, not the club.So the RST are right in what they are saying, regarding that anyway.Surely if there are any shares left over from the IPO they will go on the AIM? And if they all come from the club in the first instance it doesn't matter who you buy them from, somebody somewhere paid the club for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The way I understand it is this - there is x amount of shares available for the IPO. After that, what ever shares you own are yours, including all the large shareholdrs! charles Green etc.. So if you d buy shares after the IPO, you will be buying off a shareholdr, not the club.So the RST are right in what they are saying, regarding that anyway.From which organisation did the RST buy its shares from?Rangers?A stockbroking firm?The stock exchange?More questions than there are answers........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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