Guardian 4,281 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 We must seperate the SPL's daft attempts to stick us with a bill and this one.This one concerns legal action we initiated, so it's no surprise we get the bill.A non-story.Company employs lawyers and gets bill - Film at 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Scum cunts. Get out of Scotland now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 The SFA insists Rangers should pay all legal bills relating to the dispute. Hope thats clear enough It is, but only if you run with the incorrect information that was released early."The panel says Rangers should pay all legal bills relating to the dispute.The panel was established and facilitated under the Scottish Football Association's Articles of Association after agreement was reached by the club and the players over who should represent each side of the dispute, with a chair appointed to review both side's claims.However, the SFA is not directly involved in the arbitration process and has no influence over any decisions taken by the panel."http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22035246It is the independant panel themself that have placed the bill with us.Hope that is clear enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Every Other Saturday 128 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 ActionSFL meeting last week.CG states that the SPL is 'insolvent and tradiing illegally'.CG publically lambasts Doncaster & SPL for LNS bill - Doncaster apparently denied any knowledge of this bill?? - Chief Executive???Longmuir poo poo's some aspects of SPL reconstruction/sponsorship/tv rights/self-preservation plans.ReactionSmear campaign against Longmuir in some parts of the media.SFA step in to ensure the vote goes ahead and form part of 'due dilegence' process - this is a major concern to me!Rangers get billed for the SFA's 'independent panel of experts' on TUPE contract issues.Whyte suddenely appears to muddy the waters at Rangers = whit a frickin suprise eh?Whit's next? - CG is a shareholder in Ticketus. Longmuir's great father in-law's cousin was an anti-Irish bigot. Doncaster stating that Sky will sign a 10 year, multi-million pound contract to show septic versus Motherwell on a loop 3 times a week on the condition that he doesn't show anyone the finer details of said contract?Open eyes and calm heads on this one I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott12003 711 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Why are the independent panel releasing statements to the media regarding a legal bill to rangers?Surely something like this should be carried out behind closed doors?Who released this to the media?Another so called source?You could say the SFA are trying to discredit one of their member clubs,where else in the world would that happen....nowhere but here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It is, but only if you run with the incorrect information that was released early."The panel says Rangers should pay all legal bills relating to the dispute.The panel was established and facilitated under the Scottish Football Association's Articles of Association after agreement was reached by the club and the players over who should represent each side of the dispute, with a chair appointed to review both side's claims.However, the SFA is not directly involved in the arbitration process and has no influence over any decisions taken by the panel."http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/22035246It is the independant panel themself that have placed the bill with us.Hope that is clear enough.Surely if BOTH sides agreed to who should represent them in this dispute,then BOTH sides should pay their own costs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Surely if BOTH sides agreed to who should represent them in this dispute,then BOTH sides should pay their own costs? Not really how it works. The winner of legal disputes tends to be reimbursed by the losing party.Its the punishment if you like for refusing to come to a deal before it getting to court.Imagine someone sued you for £1m that you did not owe them, you would have to pay for a legal defence. If you won the case, then you would still be out of pocket for lawyers fees for something that you had not done wrong. The person who wrongly put in a claim should pick up the bill.It is correct that we pick up the tab given that we lost the case, but again I dont agree with the decision from the panel in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 ....but this wasn't a Court of Law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 ....but this wasn't a Court of Law.Still functions the same way though.There really is no dodgy conspiracy from the SFA to get us in this case at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviecooper01 826 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Mitre - your argument would be true apart from the fact that it had already been stated that Newco had no rights to take over the arbitration over the players.If Newco have no right to be involved, they can hardly be hit with a bill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Not really how it works. The winner of legal disputes tends to be reimbursed by the losing party.Its the punishment if you like for refusing to come to a deal before it getting to court.Imagine someone sued you for £1m that you did not owe them, you would have to pay for a legal defence. If you won the case, then you would still be out of pocket for lawyers fees for something that you had not done wrong. The person who wrongly put in a claim should pick up the bill.It is correct that we pick up the tab given that we lost the case, but again I dont agree with the decision from the panel in the first place.Rangers have appealed the decision, so why is a bill being sent now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgers 565 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 wonder who was on this panel?How do they come to the conclusion that we should pay a bill because players wanted to leave.Have the players asked for Rangers to pay this money or have the SFA panel just thought it up?Guaranteed to be hand picked ex-Celtic employees and Regan/Liewells placemen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Still functions the same way though.There really is no dodgy conspiracy from the SFA to get us in this case at least.The timing must be a coincidence then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Mitre - your argument would be true apart from the fact that it had already been stated that Newco had no rights to take over the arbitration over the players.If Newco have no right to be involved, they can hardly be hit with a bill.But it was an action started by the NewCo which led to the panel being brought together and the legal expenses to be occured. The outcome was the verdict that we could not continue arbitration, which I believe to be the wrong decision.Since we launched the action , and rightly or wrongly, lost the case, it is only correct that we pick up the legal costs of the action we initiated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Rangers have appealed the decision, so why is a bill being sent now.Good point, not sure how the timings of these things happen.Could it be that we pay now, but if we win the appeal, our expenses are reimbursed, including the payment we made at stage 1 to cover the initial costs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 The timing must be a coincidence thenOr media mischief. If this is a standard action, then it should not be blown up by the media.The club might be expecting a bill through the door for this.Its been spun as 'SFA hammer Rangers again!' in a sensationalist manner. To be honest, the costs are probably fairly low and of no real concern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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