1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 off topic but it is quite a silly saying now you mention it. What else would anyone want to do with their cake?AlBear might want to stick his tail in it or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wienblue 26 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 To ensure transparency and fairness Hearts will require to be fined for going into administration similar to Rangers. Not to invoke a financial penalty will be seen as discriminatory and proof positive of bias by the overly sectarian authorities. If not penalty is imposed, we need to seek written redress and then take this forward to The competent footballing authorities, tradi g standards and European Commission given that it is anti competitive to discriminate against one and any sanctions should be consistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Generally the saying "having your cake and eating it" means you want both.So where did I say you had to choose one or the other? I said that some football fans value hurting other clubs above their own feelings for their club. It's about priorities. But you clearly value those two things equally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It shows you the bias against Rangers from many people within the BBC and other media outlets. No one cares for Hearts, plenty of people care for Rangers and by that I mean people who HATE us who CARE about us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 630 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 AlBear might want to stick his tail in it or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 What guff .We have a right to be concerned .I want to see if there will be double standards by the rodents in the media and SFA.There is already double standards, Bomber Brown called it right when he accused both the football authorities and Hearts of knowing the situation before hand and engineering the administration with the insolvency already( I believe ) under way, before the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Right. We'll never forget.It's clear that some football fans are more interested in hurting other clubs than anything else.Bollocks.We can do more than one thing at a time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 627 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 54&C, could you use this material to re-address your claim with the BBC Trust that the BBC media group in Scotland are showing institutional bias against Rangers? I mean, English et al are themselves saying that the Rangers fans are to blame for this disparity in reporting on the respective administration procedures. Are the BBC not responsible for the content of their own broadcasts?Not going unnoticed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersxfc 265 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 I think a bit of balance is required here...there is no doubt there will remain a degree of animosity for some time towards other clubs and fans most if which us justified....however priority number 1 should be us! For me ahead of hurting other clubs or boycotting the number 1 priority should be seeking to address the balance in the mainstream media regarding how we are portrayed and getting representation onto SFA panels/boards etc and regaining a voice in Scottish football!I really just want to be a football fan again don't know about the rest of you!You make a lot of valid points but before I can even start to move on first there has to be some acknowledgment of the unfair treatment we have faced over the pass 4 years from the media. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Bollocks.We can do more than one thing at a time. Oh, you show off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 You make a lot of valid points but before I can even start to move on first there has to be some acknowledgment of the unfair treatment we have faced over the pass 4 years from the media.That's my point though mate we are not going to get that until such times as the balance in the media is addressed and the agenda against us is dealt with....at the moment any actions we take are being twisted into a negative which perpetuates the myths some would like the public to believe about us!Getting representation and a voice in Scottish football at boardroom level is also essential to break up lawells control! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 You make a lot of valid points but before I can even start to move on first there has to be some acknowledgment of the unfair treatment we have faced over the pass 4 years from the media.I think both of you want your cake and eat it.The French peasants cried out for bread to live because they had none, and the aristocratic lady said " Then eat cake ".In other words the SFA/SPL and the media are offering nothing, but on a bright note, the lady had her head cut off, and that's what we have to do to finish this cabal off and then return to football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 With the greatest of respect mate, you have given your reasons for not renewing and I understand them however talking about 'hurting' other clubs is a bit ironic when you are 'hurting' your own by choosing not to renew!He's not really someone will take his seat. There will always be another there to take your seat if you don't renew. Can anyone else in Scotland say that about there fans? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersxfc 265 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 this is nothing like the French revolution LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 So where did I say you had to choose one or the other? I said that some football fans value hurting other clubs above their own feelings for their club. It's about priorties. But you clearly value those two things equally.You were intimating that wanting to see the other clubs fall is all round detrimental to Rangers. I'm saying I don't think it's as black and white as that. There's ways you can do both. I don't value both equally, Rangers come first but the blood lust I have to see other teams suffer is right up there. I don't apologize for that. People that don't want to see the SPL teams suffer should really give their heads a wobble. IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengaziblue 8 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 My opinion is that Rangers are not out of the woods yet, I am a season ticket holder and when I can afford to I go to away games if I can get a ticket. Would gladly use that cash for the likes of reserve matches as I used to back in the 60s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 He's not really someone will take his seat. There will always be another there to take your seat if you don't renew. Can anyone else in Scotland say that about there fans?I'm not sure that's true at the moment mate....with financial restraints on alot of people I don't think it's a given we will continue selling out stadiums, especially if performances don't improve. I think renewals this year are so so important.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,057 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Are English et al seriously trying to say the difference in reporting is due to the reaction of the fans... seriously these bastards had us tried and convicted for:JFK assasination.Lockerbie bombingCheatingIan BradyThe fake moon landingsAlien abductions...Not sure if I missed anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'm not sure that's true at the moment mate....with financial restraints on alot of people I don't think it's a given we will continue selling out stadiums, especially if performances don't improve. I think renewals this year are so so important....The seat has been renewed anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 You were intimating that wanting to see the other clubs fall is all round detrimental to Rangers. I'm saying I don't think it's as black and white as that. There's ways you can do both. I don't value both equally, Rangers come first but the blood lust I have to see other teams suffer is right up there. I don't apologize for that. People that don't want to see the SPL teams suffer should really give their heads a wobble. IMO.No I didn't. But, it hardly benefits us having Scottish football in ruins. Many other teams are facing the very real danger of a similar fate as Hearts. If they are all to be treated as harshly and unjustly as we were then what will be left to "get to the top of"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 No I didn't. But, it hardly benefits us having Scottish football in ruins. Many other teams are facing the very real danger of a similar fate as Hearts. If they are all to be treated as harshly and unjustly as we were then what will be left to "get to the top of"?Why are we so worried about SPL teams suffering? worst case scenario it will elevate others from the first division. There won't suddenly be no teams left to play against in Scotland if the handful of teams we despise suffer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Why are we so worried about SPL teams suffering? worst case scenario it will elevate others from the first division. There won't suddenly be no teams left to play against in Scotland if the handful of teams we despise suffer.I'm not worried at all. These other clubs don't concern me in the slightest. As a famous poet once said, "If he dies, he dies." I could care less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGE TATTY 6 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I think both of you want your cake and eat it.The French peasants cried out for bread to live because they had none, and the aristocratic lady said " Then eat cake ".In other words the SFA/SPL and the media are offering nothing, but on a bright note, the lady had her head cut off, and that's what we have to do to finish this cabal off and then return to football.that starts with the snp Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'm not worried at all. These other clubs don't concern me in the slightest. As a famous poet once said, "If he dies, he dies." I could care less.Glad we've established that. If you don't care can you let the rest of us get on with our hating, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Glad we've established that. If you don't care can you let the rest of us get on with our hating, thanks.Aye sorry boss. I'll keep my opinions to myself until they match yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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