1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 They didn't stump up the cash when needed.They bought into a liquidated company.If they had bought into the company when needed then they would have bought into us when we were in administration.That's not strictly true though as they put money into a CVA proposal when the company was still in administration before liquidation Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo55 65 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 That's not strictly true though as they put money into a CVA proposal when the company was still in administration before liquidationA proposol that they knew would be rejected as being derisirly low. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 A proposol that they knew would be rejected as being derisirly low.The fact is HMRC led us up the garden path and changed their mind and rejected Or even to give your conspiracy theory credit - if the investors bid was so low and derisory - then wtf does that say about King and the rebels? Whatever way you want to spin it it doesn't look good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Has it occurred to you that DK is perhaps waiting until the club's financial situation reaches the point that the Board is forced to offer him a large number of new shares in return for his cash?See that's the trouble with yer Rangers men.They are always "waiting" for something. They never actually get around to doing anything.Now you're saying he us waiting around like a vulture for the club to go tits up again so he can get it cheap.Next he'll be greeting someone cheated to get in ahead of him.we've seen it all before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 A proposol that they knew would be rejected as being derisirly low.A proposal the Rangers men told us was the only way to go."No plan B"Til they needed a plan B of course. Then they had one, albeit was a ludicrous one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think you will see a takeover before you see another share issue.Nonsense Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 See that's the trouble with yer Rangers men.They are always "waiting" for something. They never actually get around to doing anything.Now you're saying he us waiting around like a vulture for the club to go tits up again so he can get it cheap.Next he'll be greeting someone cheated to get in ahead of him.we've seen it all before.Indeed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I fully support DK's attempts to gain control of the club, but I do not speak for him. His comment about admin by Christmas has turned out to be an exaggeration, but that doesn't invalidate everything else he has to say.I supported PM's attempts to become a director because I saw that as the most likely means of getting a new share issue as quickly as possible.King hasnt got an attempt to.gain control he is running his mouth.same.as.always nothing.will come from it now or ever imo.PM is a wank that is all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 They didn't stump up the cash when needed.They bought into a liquidated company.If they had bought into the company when needed then they would have bought into us when we were in administration.Was it there fault that Hmrc rejected cva, is it there fault that Tbk was all talk and no cash. The current investors stumped up the cash when it was needed, all this is Dave king talk doesn't make a bit of difference when you have folk like cc saying that Dave king will wait till we are desperate, that sir is shameful for a supposed rangers man. It is all ego from Dave king if he waits till desperation sets in, also at next share issue can anyone actually see the current investors happily letting there shareholding be diluted cause I can't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Was it there fault that Hmrc rejected cva, is it there fault that Tbk was all talk and no cash. The current investors stumped up the cash when it was needed, all this is Dave king talk doesn't make a bit of difference when you have folk like cc saying that Dave king will wait till we are desperate, that sir is shameful for a supposed rangers man. It is all ego from Dave king if he waits till desperation sets in, also at next share issue can anyone actually see the current investors happily letting there shareholding be diluted cause I can't.I dont see King getting in at all as the investers we have will snap up the shares first there wont be many left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I dont see King getting in at all as the investers we have will snap up the shares first there wont be many left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I dont see King getting in at all as the investers we have will snap up the shares first there wont be many left.which investors do you think will increase their holdings ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 which investors do you think will increase their holdings ?All of the institutional to stop the likes of King waltzing in rightly or wrongly i dont see anyone else sidestepping and letting that happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If King wants Rangers he has the money to buy us.. Why does he need to wait Carson? If Wallace does his job right and the current owners decide to sell you can bet business men with more money than him would be after us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva La Vuvuzela! 13 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 See that's the trouble with yer Rangers men.They are always "waiting" for something.They never actually get around to doing anything.Now you're saying he us waiting around like a vulture for the club to go tits up again so he can get it cheap.Next he'll be greeting someone cheated to get in ahead of him.we've seen it all before.The trouble with Rangers Men is that they put us in the gutter, if it weren't for Green we would never have emerged from that very dark place. King is happy to wait until we are back in with the big boys before he acts, I'd rather he would have got involved in some meaningful way by now, even working with those running the show at the moment.He wants the hard work done before stepping in at minimum cost to himself but I don't think it should be forgotten his last meaningful involvement at the club was amongst the architects of our near-destruction - he has done zilch to aid our rise back to the top thus far, nada.VLV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva La Vuvuzela! 13 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 DP, apologies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If King wants Rangers he has the money to buy us.. Why does he need to wait Carson? If Wallace does his job right and the current owners decide to sell you can bet business men with more money than him would be after us.The only businessmen who will invest any money in us now are Rangers supporters with money to burn. We are, quite frankly, no longer an attractive proposition to institutional investors. The cow has run out of milk, so to speak.You ask why DK doesn't just buy the club. How do you suppose he would go about this? How many shareholders are going to sell to him at the current market price, or do you expect him to ignore all he has learnt about business and pay well over the odds for the shares?The best scenario from the point of view of both Rangers and DK is for there to be a new share issue. That way DK gets the shares at a reasonable price and all of his money goes to the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 The only businessmen who will invest any money in us now are Rangers supporters with money to burn. We are, quite frankly, no longer an attractive proposition to institutional investors. The cow has run out of milk, so to speak.You ask why DK doesn't just buy the club. How do you suppose he would go about this? How many shareholders are going to sell to him at the current market price, or do you expect him to ignore all he has learnt about business and pay well over the odds for the shares?The best scenario from the point of view of both Rangers and DK is for there to be a new share issue. That way DK gets the shares at a reasonable price and all of his money goes to the club.I wonder myself which institutional investors will put money into an enterprise making big losses and whose share price is fallingyet McMurdo claims he's seen "cast iron guarantees".............none identified of course.I feel you are right. King's a Rangers supporter and has got the money Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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