bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Spiers on Saturday: meeting Derek Ferguson (with lots of memories of Souness...) Saturday 8 February 2014Those of a certain age today might remember the original "really fine Ferguson" to emerge at Rangers all these years ago.Hat'll do nicely . . . Derek, left, with wee brother Barry back in the day . . .Of Barry, enough is known and is still being written. But Derek, the original "continental playmaker" of Ibrox? Now this is definitely worth a catch-up.These days Derek Ferguson is 46, doing some media work, and going in to schools to represent Show Racism The Red Card. The mere sight of him, as I discovered again yesterday, reminds you of that slightly hunched, clever, cultured midfielder who blazed on to the scene at Rangers in 1984. By the time he was 18, Derek Ferguson was truly the next Graeme Souness.It is ironic, then, that two men more than any others would influence Ferguson's career, for good and ill: his father, Archie, and Souness himself. In some ways it is an uncomfortable story.Archie Ferguson, a roof-sheeter who is now 67, did something quite remarkable in his life: in Derek and Barry Ferguson he reared and taught two of Scotland's finest midfielders of the past 30 years. Barry, through fate, got most of the limelight, but Derek was still pretty special. Indeed, but for injuries, some older Rangers fans today still believe that Derek was the better of the two.When he first appeared, Derek was thoroughly intriguing. From somewhere his instincts were those of a European: he was composed, he didn't rush; he calmly stitched Rangers' play together. 'Cultured' was the very word for him. It was actually a little baffling to see a wee Scottish lad play like this."My dad was my biggest influence - and I guess for Barry, too," says Derek. "I remember as a wee kid watching my Dad play football. He had fantastic skill. He made everything look so easy."My dad made me the player I was. He always said things like: 'Never panic on the ball. Always take the ball. Be brave on the ball. Keep your head up and use the ball.' I had these phrases in my mind from when I was a little kid. It all stayed with me."Endless summers on the beach with his father, playing keepy-uppy and not much else, produced the Derek Ferguson that many swooned over. With the Graeme Souness revolution just starting at Rangers, it should have been the perfect scenario. Instead, it all went sour."Graeme Souness used to get annoyed with me. He thought I was taking far too many touches on the ball. He actually thought I was too greedy. The bit that was true was that I knew I had ability, I knew that I could dominate certain situations."Maybe sometimes I wanted to show my opponent that I could dominate him - with a wee flick or a wee trick. I think Graeme admired me as a player, but also believed - and this was absolutely not true - I was out on the town every night, that I was a bad boy. I can assure you that wasn't true."The problem was, Graeme wanted me to live his lifestyle, or the lifestyle of more experienced players. But I was still young. I was 19, 20, 21. Graeme liked to haul me up in front of the press and give me a caning. He had a pretty odd attitude, to be honest."Between 1984 and 1990 Derek played over 120 games for Rangers, and at first, along with Ian Durrant, was integral to the Souness strategy. His talent shone out. But then Souness, for whatever reason, began to turn against Ferguson. "What held me back at Rangers was my shoulder dislocations - in both shoulders," he says. "It kept me out for long periods of time. On one occasion Graeme took it upon himself to try to put one of them back in himself on the training pitch."He put his foot on me, he was pushing it, twisting it, turning it. I was in agony. I was screaming at him: 'Get aff me ya f****** idiot!' The next day the surgeon looked at the mess of it and said to me: 'What happened here? You could have been damaged for life with this.'"I used to love training games against Graeme. I knew I had the ability, and he knew it, too. Off the pitch I was always very respectful towards senior pros like Graeme, Terry Butcher, Ray Wilkins and others - I went out of my way to be respectful towards them. But not on the training field. On the training pitch I felt very comfortable in that company. I'm not being big-headed but I looked at some of these guys and I thought, 'I'm as good as them, I can hold my own here.'"There was definitely something about Graeme's attitude which was strange. Look at Ally [McCoist] . . . he was jealous of him. Everyone loved Ally, and Graeme knew it. He didn't like it. He resented it."I don't think Graeme liked young upstarts coming along who maybe had a lot of skill, and threatened him in the football sense. Sometimes he'd take things into his own hands."It used to amaze me that Graeme had played at the level that he had, and in the company that he had, yet he still felt this wee insecurity within him. When I got older - at Hearts, at Sunderland, at Falkirk - I loved it when fine young players came along who could nut-meg me. I'd embrace them. I never felt annoyed by it. I just didn't get Souness' attitude."By 1990, says Ferguson, there was enough strain between him and Souness to spell the end of his time at Rangers. He was still only 24 and, doubtless with faults on both sides, was on his way out the door."Graeme told me I was being sold," says Derek. "He said he'd spoken to the Hearts chairman, Wallace Mercer. I said to him, 'naw, I'm not going anywhere. I like it here at Rangers. I've got 18 months left on my contract.' Graeme said, 'you're going, I'm selling you.' I said, 'naw, I want to stay.'"Eventually I spoke to my dad and I decided to leave. Graeme had told me that, not only would I not be playing for the Rangers first team, but that he'd make sure I'd sit on the bench for away games at reserve and even youth level. I said to him, 'gaffer, if that's your mentality, you just carry on, you do that.' I hated that sort of threat. My dad said to me: 'Son, what do you want to do on a Saturday afternoon? You want to be playing football, right? I think you should go to Hearts.'"The funny thing is, after all of that, I still really liked Graeme Souness. And I still like him. I loved Souness the player. But what a guy he was."Amid all the football that followed - and the injuries - at a host of clubs, just two Scotland caps were won. It is quite a blasphemy, that."I loved playing football, I loved the dressing-room. I earned well, but it didn't make me wealthy, which never bothered me. Money has never been a priority for me, just my family and my happiness. It was quite an adventure, my career." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,887 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Dead ringer for Barry in his younger days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 he kept good company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Remember him and Durrant in the same team. Tbh I thought Fergie was the better player of the two. Mind you, doing an interview with the liar Spiers has made me lower my estimation of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Both brothers played with their heads up and were always comfortable on the ball when put under pressure. Having seen both their careers there's no doubt Barry achieved more in the game but imo Derek was the more accomplished player, and but for injury and a lack of discipline (his fault) could have played a major role for both club and country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'd rather have a sourness than a ferguson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA 545 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Remember him and Durrant in the same team. Tbh I thought Fergie was the better player of the two. Mind you, doing an interview with the liar Spiers has made me lower my estimation of him.Agree with this.I remember him coming through and not only getting involved but actually bossing games like Barry did later.Always remember thinking : "why did Mrs Ferguson no' have more wee boys? Is she too old to have more?" And any true bluenose that gives Spiers the time of day needs his balls kicked to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'd rather have a sourness than a fergusonWhat a guy that abandoned us and left for his real love weeks before the end of a very close season? No chance. Souness could have cost us the title, he could have cost us 9 in a row. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Think i'm right in saying that we released one of Dereks boys (u14s) from the youth set-up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 What a guy that abandoned us and left for his real love weeks before the end of a very close season? No chance. Souness could have cost us the title, he could have cost us 9 in a row.Without sourness there wouldn't have been 9 in a row Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Without sourness there wouldn't have been 9 in a rowTrue, and if Butcher hadn't broken his leg we would have got 11 in a row. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Agree with this.I remember him coming through and not only getting involved but actually bossing games like Barry did later.Always remember thinking : "why did Mrs Ferguson no' have more wee boys? Is she too old to have more?" And any true bluenose that gives Spiers the time of day needs his balls kicked to be honest.He really shouldn't have stated live on radio that "I'm not really a fan of Rangers." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,054 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 We have indeed been endowed with a few good Fergies'. My own favourite would be Ian, and I would like to think that he would be the one most likely, to boot old queersie in the bollocks, rather than give him an interview. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Such a shame it was all that bad man Souness's fault for advising ferguson to lead the live of a dedicated pro, but ferguson was young anaw that and had to lead the life of anything but a dedicated pro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Remember him and Durrant in the same team. Tbh I thought Fergie was the better player of the two. Mind you, doing an interview with the liar Spiers has made me lower my estimation of him.My estimation was lowered when hsi brother and PLG were not getting on , Ferguson snr got his break in Radio Cattolica during this....from what I heard due to his brother and hi leaking info to RC. He also once told his brother to leave Ibrox, Rangers men my arse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I remember looking forward to a Souness-Ferguson-Durrant midfield with great excitement, but it never panned out the way it could have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 he kept good company.Whit the fcuk has happened tae Ally in that fotie, is it Davie McPhersons boady wae Ally's heid stuck oan ? Superimposed Loyal ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig79 51 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 David Platt anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Remember him and Durrant in the same team. Tbh I thought Fergie was the better player of the two. Mind you, doing an interview with the liar Spiers has made me lower my estimation of him.Couldn't disagree more. In my view, before his injury, Durrant would have been the best midfielder of his generation, Gazza included. The fucker Simpson ruined a wonderful career Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Whit the fcuk has happened tae Ally in that fotie, is it Davie McPhersons boady wae Ally's heid stuck oan ? Superimposed Loyal !fuck knows mate - i pulled the photo off an old thread on here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 fuck knows mate - i pulled the photo off an old thread on here!Maybe just been squeezed a bit ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Sadly Derek never fulfilled his potential and leaving Rangers proved to be his worst ever decision , even if he blames Souness for pushing him out the door .Bottom line is that Rangers are a special club and few prosper when they leave only to find the grass is'nt greener on the other side .Derek was very classy on the ball but did'nt have an all round game with too many square balls in the mould of Ray Wilkins but not as good .My advice to any young Ranger given the choice to leave is to hang on with your fingertips and hope the manager goes away . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothwellbear 1,392 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Actually an interesting article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,108 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If he had booted that liar britney in the haw maws at the end of the interview then I would have been a happy chappy, but alas he didnae. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,467 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Played along side him at youth level a few times, cracking player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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