VB article. Season Ticket Trust.

[ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895]

Fuck it why don't VB'S just take over Rangers? out of all these groups going about VB'S are the only ones who know what the fuck they are doing.

They don't trust the board, they don't trust the fan groups such as SOS UOFS etc.........but still want to go to the games.

Just bcause you still want to buy season tickets etc.......doesn't mean you back the board but that is what people like the UOFS think.

And there buying shares.............

[gogzy 31,195]

Can someone go to VB and post the new article asking questions to the board? Using an IPad and have no idea how to do it.

Luddite Loyal

When Rangers recently begun their 'Ready to Listen' Initiative, it certainly highlighted some issues, and put into perspective how broad a church the Rangers support is.

The campaign also demonstrated that those of us who are knowingly in supporters groups are actually a very small minority of the support.

What it also showed was a startling misunderstanding of what the supporters had been asking for.

Better communication and dialogue we asked for, and what we got was something appearing very much like lip service.

While the initiative to create a Rangers fan board, and to create a membership scheme sound great in principle, Rangers have some fundamental issues they need to resolve first, if either initiative had any chance of winning the hearts and minds of the Rangers support.

Despite what the board think (and yes I do mean the current board in place right now), many Rangers fans are intelligent and very capable of seeing straight through waffle and bluster.

What our members on Vanguard Bears have been saying in greater numbers is that listening is all very well, but talking is more important.

To be clear, Rangers will have learned little new with the Ready to Listen survey, as fans have been telling successive boards for many years.

What we consistently ask for is to be treated as equals and treated with respect and that the club be transparent with us, in a comprehensive fashion.

The time to worry about our competitors' knowledge of our plans and finances is when we manage to get back on competitive terms.

Clearly that is not now. Transparency with the support, and giving our support confidence after the events of the last two years, is far more important than some mythical commercial consideration in 2016.

If the club doesn't get supporters onside, there may be no Rangers in 2016.

So, rather than present a 120 day review that concentrates more on the past, with little explanation for instance of how the purchase of the club alone appears to have been (re)funded by Rangers revenues, and even littler detail of the wish list of plans for the future, the club should have been upfront with some real detail, including figures and scenarios and some tangible proof of what these will be.

As Rangers fans stand in the dark, it is time for the club to set the record straight. Below are just some questions that Graham Wallace and Co. need to answer.

Q - How much is the Sports Direct deal worth to the club each year, and how much is it worth to Sports Direct?

Q - How much is the Puma deal worth to the club each year?

Q - How much is the 32Red deal worth to the club each year?

Q - Are any of these deals set to increase in quantum upon certain conditions being met, and what are these conditions?

Q - Are any of the current Directors due any sort of bonus, and what are the details of these bonuses?

Q - While the purchases of the Albion, screens, Stadium-wide Wifi, and Edmiston House look regrettable, what to the club plan to do to return some value from these commitments, and how will they do it?

Many of the plans in the 120 Day Review are uncosted:

Q - How will the club fund the additional position of CFFO?

Q - How will the club create a scouting network and how will the Academy Development Fund be funded?

Q - How will the position of Chief Commercial Officer be funded, and how much will he or she be remunerated?

Q - How will the commitment to communities be funded, and what tangible benefit will the team get?

Q - The figure of 20-30 Million Pounds investment has been suggested via an Autumn Share Issue - Are there investors already secured, or is this an estimate?

Q - There is a requirement for an urgent resolution to ongoing hostilities between supporters of Dave King and the board. What steps are you taking to resolve these hostilities?

Q - Will you consider an EGM in order to bring forward a share issue?

Q - In the event of reduced season ticket sales, what are your back up plans, dependent on various scenarios around the volume of season tickets sold, e.g. what do you do if 10k STs sold, 20k STs sold etc.?

You say you have listened. Are you now 'Ready to Talk'?

[OvertonBluenose 40]

Why would anyone be so stupid and give their money to this scheme? What guarantee do they have that they will be given a season ticket let alone any ticket for a game?. It's a crackpot scheme in m opinion. If you want to see Rangers play in the championship next season, then buy your season ticket from the club.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

When Rangers recently begun their 'Ready to Listen' Initiative, it certainly highlighted some issues, and put into perspective how broad a church the Rangers support is.

The campaign also demonstrated that those of us who are knowingly in supporters groups are actually a very small minority of the support.

What it also showed was a startling misunderstanding of what the supporters had been asking for.

Better communication and dialogue we asked for, and what we got was something appearing very much like lip service.

While the initiative to create a Rangers fan board, and to create a membership scheme sound great in principle, Rangers have some fundamental issues they need to resolve first, if either initiative had any chance of winning the hearts and minds of the Rangers support.

Despite what the board think (and yes I do mean the current board in place right now), many Rangers fans are intelligent and very capable of seeing straight through waffle and bluster.

What our members on Vanguard Bears have been saying in greater numbers is that listening is all very well, but talking is more important.

To be clear, Rangers will have learned little new with the Ready to Listen survey, as fans have been telling successive boards for many years.

What we consistently ask for is to be treated as equals and treated with respect and that the club be transparent with us, in a comprehensive fashion.

The time to worry about our competitors' knowledge of our plans and finances is when we manage to get back on competitive terms.

Clearly that is not now. Transparency with the support, and giving our support confidence after the events of the last two years, is far more important than some mythical commercial consideration in 2016.

If the club doesn't get supporters onside, there may be no Rangers in 2016.

So, rather than present a 120 day review that concentrates more on the past, with little explanation for instance of how the purchase of the club alone appears to have been (re)funded by Rangers revenues, and even littler detail of the wish list of plans for the future, the club should have been upfront with some real detail, including figures and scenarios and some tangible proof of what these will be.

As Rangers fans stand in the dark, it is time for the club to set the record straight. Below are just some questions that Graham Wallace and Co. need to answer.

Q - How much is the Sports Direct deal worth to the club each year, and how much is it worth to Sports Direct?

Q - How much is the Puma deal worth to the club each year?

Q - How much is the 32Red deal worth to the club each year?

Q - Are any of these deals set to increase in quantum upon certain conditions being met, and what are these conditions?

Q - Are any of the current Directors due any sort of bonus, and what are the details of these bonuses?

Q - While the purchases of the Albion, screens, Stadium-wide Wifi, and Edmiston House look regrettable, what to the club plan to do to return some value from these commitments, and how will they do it?

Many of the plans in the 120 Day Review are uncosted:

Q - How will the club fund the additional position of CFFO?

Q - How will the club create a scouting network and how will the Academy Development Fund be funded?

Q - How will the position of Chief Commercial Officer be funded, and how much will he or she be remunerated?

Q - How will the commitment to communities be funded, and what tangible benefit will the team get?

Q - The figure of 20-30 Million Pounds investment has been suggested via an Autumn Share Issue - Are there investors already secured, or is this an estimate?

Q - There is a requirement for an urgent resolution to ongoing hostilities between supporters of Dave King and the board. What steps are you taking to resolve these hostilities?

Q - Will you consider an EGM in order to bring forward a share issue?

Q - In the event of reduced season ticket sales, what are your back up plans, dependent on various scenarios around the volume of season tickets sold, e.g. what do you do if 10k STs sold, 20k STs sold etc.?

You say you have listened. Are you now 'Ready to Talk'?

Those first 4 questions will be commercially sensitive

[Guardian 4,281]

Faced with giving your cash to a man, guilty of fraud and money laundering, who has no shares or interest in Rangers, why would anyone consider such a thing ?

If you want your money to go to the club, give it to the club and cut out the middlemen.

Ordinary fans just want to watch their team so this dodgy lot won't get much of an uptake into their Arthur Daley scheme and it will collapse like Dave Kings SARS defence.

[Tontospal 1,116]

VB will be asking questions of the board very soon. However it appears the UoF etc really don't get the fact many of us may not trust the board, but equally don't trust Murray or King.

I think this is the view of the silent majority of real fans.

The press and media are loving the fact that non-entity mouthpieces amongst OuR support keep giving them soundbites which only cause acrimony and negative headlines.

[Bears r us 30,854]

I make that only 14 questions compared to 38 to King. The u of f....... will not like this one little bit.

[lutonblue 1,974]

Does Fury still post on here? Would be interesting for him to give us the answers we need. Doubt he will though, or even can.

he is banned

[Tontospal 1,116]

I don't trust the board or King, although that could because of the charlatans we've had in the past rather anything they've actually did. However I can't see how some of the present board can be blamed for the actions of those who were there previously.

It is only to be expected given what has happened. The Board have to prove themselves and are in the unfortunate position of inheriting a mess and following on from individuals who were more interested in themselves than the club.

The thing that frustrates me most is we are no nearer the truth about everything that has happened from Murray to today.

[Bobby Hume 13,171]

I make that only 14 questions compared to 38 to King. The u of f....... will not like this one little bit.

I would put it to them, the more shares you have the less questions asked, as by buying shares, you have declared your intentions to seriously be willing to partake fully in Rangers, and not just be mouthing off and threatening to be involved, like noisy children.

Well done again VB's.

[Bears r us 30,854]

They hate us anyway. Asking them questions is akin to being a board supporter.

[Bears r us 30,854]

I would put it to them, the more shares you have the less questions asked, as by buying shares, you have declared your intentions to seriously be willing to partake fully in Rangers, and not just be mouthing off and threatening to be involved, like noisy children.

Well done again VB's.

[brave scomberg fan 27]

Articulate as always from VB

[Sweetheart 8,458]

what's DK's plan - he's already set up a company for the season tickets, rumour has it that he'll be producing the shirts too. Does he plan to buy the stadium and training centre, then rent it back to the club?