Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 No they have the same trait of apparently ignoring attacks on the club but getting the lawyers involved when they get attackedIts been a common trait at Ibrox since the Murray era. Parks is not the first person Ally has phoned after they were critical of him.Some of the stuff directed at Sandy Easdale went way beyond being acceptable. It became a personal campaign against the man.Lawyers can only really get involved if some of the abuse and accusations are without foundation.Personally, I would have proceeded with the legal proceeding and took him for every can of Mr Muscle he had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Oh FFS so blinded by detesting Ally he can't even phone up a journo that slags him off to have a go?And for the record, Ally is the only one I recall standing up for the club when we were having illegal punishments against us and people trying to steal our league titles, but just forget all that so you can have a whinge about the guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Ally held on and he should have known it would get nasty .He should just go and do what G Smith suggests .He is not welcome as Rangers manager and there is no going back now .If it gets worse ,he only has his self to blame . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Ally held on and he should have known it would get nasty .He should just go and do what G Smith suggests .He is not welcome as Rangers manager and there is no going back now .If it gets worse ,he only has his self to blame .Maybe if someone responded to his apparent resignation that would help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Oh FFS so blinded by detesting Ally he can't even phone up a journo that slags him off to have a go?And for the record, Ally is the only one I recall standing up for the club when we were having illegal punishments against us and people trying to steal our league titles, but just forget all that so you can have a whinge about the guy.Sure, he stood up for the club for no reward. Oh, apart from his £800k p/a salary. What a hero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 And again claims that redundancies are the final straw, what utter pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Sure, he stood up for the club for no reward. Oh, apart from his £800k p/a salary. What a hero.I could point out that at that time he was receiving no salary, we were in admin and it was possible the club would no longer exist, but you would just switch to some other reason to slag him off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 FFS Ally just go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,077 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 he spoke the truth and got a phonecall and pounded for it, fuck itI can't really imagine Ally being capable of giving anyone a pounding. Not to the level of Souness or Ferguson. Alex not Barry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,279 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I can't really imagine Ally being capable of giving anyone a pounding.Just think Hazel Irvine Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Sure, he stood up for the club for no reward. Oh, apart from his £800k p/a salary. What a hero.You forgot the 1 million 1p shares Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I could point out that at that time he was receiving no salary, we were in admin and it was possible the club would no longer exist, but you would just switch to some other reason to slag him off.You're right, I would point to his appalling managerial record.He can't win. He needs to fuck off to a place of work where his employers, staff and customers don't judge his appallingly poor performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Sure, he stood up for the club for no reward. Oh, apart from his £800k p/a salary. What a hero.Like the no reward Green worked for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I could point out that at that time he was receiving no salary, we were in admin and it was possible the club would no longer exist, but you would just switch to some other reason to slag him off.You could, but you won't because you have absolutely no proof that was in fact the case, You probably don't have any proof that he took a 50% pay cut either or why it took him so long to negotiate any alleged cut.Oh FFS so blinded by detesting Ally he can't even phone up a journo that slags him off to have a go?And for the record, Ally is the only one I recall standing up for the club when we were having illegal punishments against us and people trying to steal our league titles, but just forget all that so you can have a whinge about the guy.Why do you believe that Rangers fans suddenly detest Ally? Did it just happen over night, or is it because of the damage he is doing to our club?I can't recall Ally really standing up for us over illegal punishments or people trying to steal our titles, Did his friends in the media run this story, He thinks Turnbull Hutton is a great guy FFSYou probably realise that the solicitor who represented Rangers at the SPL tribunal was paid for by the RFFF and people like myself who earn less every 2 years than Ally does in a month.But then again, People like myself spend 40 odd years ploughing a large percentage of our disposable income into Rangers Football Club, So people like Ally can take it out.Are we not entitled to our opinion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 No idea where this pish comes from that he worked without a salary, he worked without a contract, massive difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Oh FFS so blinded by detesting Ally he can't even phone up a journo that slags him off to have a go?And for the record, Ally is the only one I recall standing up for the club when we were having illegal punishments against us and people trying to steal our league titles, but just forget all that so you can have a whinge about the guy.for well over 2million in wages, ally has delivered 2 part time leaguesfor what will be 21million in first team wages, ally will have left us with 2 part time league titles and an aging squad out of contract in the summer, too shite to keep, too shite to sell before then, with virtually no sellable assets to bank onone person in the media finally calls out mccoist on this deplorable record, and ally doesnt like it so phones him up to give him abuse for what was a factually correct piece of journalismbut of course ally is in the right here isnt he Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 You could, but you won't because you have absolutely no proof that was in fact the case, You probably don't have any proof that he took a 50% pay cut either or why it took him so long to negotiate any alleged cut.Why do you believe that Rangers fans suddenly detest Ally? Did it just happen over night, or is it because of the damage he is doing to our club?I can't recall Ally really standing up for us over illegal punishments or people trying to steal our titles, Did his friends in the media run this story, He thinks Turnbull Hutton is a great guy FFSYou probably realise that the solicitor who represented Rangers at the SPL tribunal was paid for by the RFFF and people like myself who earn less every 2 years than Ally does in a month.But then again, People like myself spend 40 odd years ploughing a large percentage of our disposable income into Rangers Football Club, So people like Ally can take it out.Are we not entitled to our opinion?He was unpaid while we were in admin, that is why he was given a backpay after we newco-ed.He was up on a breach charge by the SFA for his comments about anonymous people sitting in judgement and giving us the transfer embargo punishment.When I refer to the titles, I am referring to the five way agreement.But, fair enough, airbrush anything positive out of history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 for well over 2million in wages, ally has delivered 2 part time leaguesfor what will be 21million in first team wages, ally will have left us with 2 part time league titles and an aging squad out of contract in the summer, too shite to keep, too shite to sell before then, with virtually no sellable assets to bank onone person in the media finally calls out mccoist on this deplorable record, and ally doesnt like it so phones him up to give him abuse for what was a factually correct piece of journalismbut of course ally is in the right here isnt he If the journo is entitled to his opinion (I assume you think he is because you agree with it) then Ally is entitled to talk to him about it, surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,195 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Green gave him the penny shares at a time when he was shouting from the rooftops that we were in great shape financially. Criticise him for being a poor manager but don't criticise him for accepting cheap shares or his high salary. Have a go at the people who decided that's what he should get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He was unpaid while we were in admin, that is why he was given a backpay after we newco-ed.He was up on a breach charge by the SFA for his comments about anonymous people sitting in judgement and giving us the transfer embargo punishment.When I refer to the titles, I am referring to the five way agreement.But, fair enough, airbrush anything positive out of history.what "backpay" was this? and what evidence is there that he wasnt paid during admin, yes they all took pay cuts, but there's no evidence, all i can see is media talk but not one bit of actual evidence that ally took nothing home whatsoever during administrationhe then tuped over with his over 700k a year contract, and only decided to discuss it when it became clear he was being paid a fucking fortune for a job worth a quarter of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 If the journo is entitled to his opinion (I assume you think he is because you agree with it) then Ally is entitled to talk to him about it, surely?talking to him and giving him abuse is two different thingswhat if we all got allys number and phoned him to talk about the pish he's served up for years, would that be okay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He was unpaid while we were in admin, that is why he was given a backpay after we newco-ed.He was up on a breach charge by the SFA for his comments about anonymous people sitting in judgement and giving us the transfer embargo punishment.When I refer to the titles, I am referring to the five way agreement.But, fair enough, airbrush anything positive out of history.You have absolute no proof that he was unpaid during Admin or if he received backpay.Yes he did give many sound bytes, He knows how to work the media and fool gullible people.Do you remember "Never forget, Never Forgive" that changed really quickly didn't it,Old Turnbull is a smashing chap.Ally McCoist has given me many great memories as a player, I probably witnessed over 95% of the goals he scored for Rangers.As a manager he has been responsible for the worse performances and worse results I have ever seen as a Rangers fan. I would love to airbrush it from my memory but it is still happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 what "backpay" was this? and what evidence is there that he wasnt paid during admin, yes they all took pay cuts, but there's no evidence, all i can see is media talk but not one bit of actual evidence that ally took nothing home whatsoever during administrationhe then tuped over with his over 700k a year contract, and only decided to discuss it when it became clear he was being paid a fucking fortune for a job worth a quarter of itThat is what TUPE is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Its been a common trait at Ibrox since the Murray era. Parks is not the first person Ally has phoned after they were critical of him.Some of the stuff directed at Sandy Easdale went way beyond being acceptable. It became a personal campaign against the man.Lawyers can only really get involved if some of the abuse and accusations are without foundation.Personally, I would have proceeded with the legal proceeding and took him for every can of Mr Muscle he had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Valley 234 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Like the no reward Green worked for?Green. Another Ally backed to the hilt. All tarred with the same brush, that sort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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