Who Believes King Has Over 50% Support?

[RFC55 110,240]

Well if you believe he has & your a boycotter, then get tickets bought for all the home games for the rest of the season. If he has got over 50% then he will be in control of the finances soon enough, so there's no reason not to go now. If (hopefully) we get promotion, we'll need every penny we can get for the fight next season. IMO, the boycotters who support king have no excuses now. He's more or less guaranteeing he'll be in charge soon enough.

I only go to big games

[STEPPS BOY 75,115]

Do you have bother reading writing - perhaps the very reason you're supporting dk.

"if king was to get back in, 3 months will not go by before Ibrox & murray park etc are put up as security."

Any evidence that this would be the case?

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

he is one of the biggest investors in Rangers history , and that is why the majority of fans trust him and are behind his efforts in removing this current board

No he's not - and he did get his 20m back - at least SARS stated ZAR200m as income from RFC.

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

"if king was to get back in, 3 months will not go by before Ibrox & murray park etc are put up as security."

Any evidence that this would be the case?

Any evidence it will not.

[STEPPS BOY 75,115]

Any evidence it will not.

So that's a no then

[YorkshireBear 222]

Eh, just remember how we got here - from sdm, bain and king as well - and if king was to get back in, 3 months will not go by before Ibrox & murray park etc are put up as security.

How the wonderful Scottish kafflik media will run with that - again RFC supporters getting duped.

Oh, like the current board have not done that already, or tried to (Ibrox).

[AlBear. 8,499]

Any evidence it will not.

Any evidence MA won't force us to default on the loans and lease back our assets to us?

[skullery 240]

No he's not - and he did get his 20m back - at least SARS stated ZAR200m as income from RFC.

aww ffs this lie has been exposed a thousand times in here , it was a lie started by the Irish blogger , who didn't have the brains to decipher a spread sheet , seriously piss of with crap , how much nonsense can you make up in one thread

[Guest]

I dont support King as much as I dislike the board. But imo hes the best option so hed get my vote

[calio 688]

I'm thinking it'll be a result similar to the referendum, with the good guys winning again.

Time for the current lot to pack up and f*ck off back under which ever rock they appeared from. Cretins.

[PaulReid 184]

I voted against him as he is the main cause for the divisions with in the support and he is well dodgy. The stock exchange may well have something to say if he makes himself a director (and it wont be good).

Fucking hell

[PaulReid 184]

I dont support King as much as I dislike the board. But imo hes the best option so hed get my vote

I agree. We need a point to really unite the fans. If king gets in that will happen then we can move forward from there. Right now we are stuck

[folkestoneger 8,447]

He paid £105m - & has invested +£75m.

And wants £200M to sell by all accounts. Not too bad an investment in addition to all the publicity for his brand

[folkestoneger 8,447]

Frankly if Ashley was in a position to buy us outright and invest it may be a difficult choice as he may have turned out to be a great owner but simply "giving" us yet more loans is doing no good for anybody

[trains 588]

Could you take me, point by point, through Sarvers detailed plan then? Cheers

You see this is what happens when you cant think for yourself! I said Sarver "outlined" a plan, not "detailed" a plan and as you got this far I'm sure you can google the definition of both words or ask a teacher at school tomorrow!

Here is a cut and paste of only a few words from Sarvers interview and in return can you cut and paste the same steps from Kings many many many interviews:

1. "what I agreed to do was loan £6.5m to help with the short term cash flow issues"

2. "then give the board discretion to sell me between £16m and £20m of equity"

3. "permanently capitalise the club over the next two to three years"

4. "Let’s combine that with a world-class coach and manager and executive"

5. "take the team back to being a success"

6. "equity, equity, equity"

Regarding points 1, 2 & 3, he confirmed all the cash was coming from him and no one else, he confirmed why he was doing this and who had directed him our way and that his only desire was to invest in a football club and see it be successful.

Go and read the either of the two interviews he gave and then confirm where King has outlined (not detailed) the same steps.

For those that understand investing in large companies and institutions then the most relevant three words that Sarver used were "capitalise", "equity" and "success" - he could easily have provided all three!

And before you say MA hasnt provided any of this either - I'm not pro-board, pro-King, pro-MA, etc, I'm just pro Rangers and its sad that when I vote in a few weeks the choices open are so limited and so desperate!

[AlBear. 8,499]

1) We’d be looking to refinance very, very quickly. If there was a delay in any way we can put debt in - the financial crisis will be solved. When we came in November we were willing to put £16 million into the club and that money is still there from the same people. It has just been blocked. That would be unblocked by a change in board control. One way or another we’ll get the cash into the club.”

2)Debt initially until which time there is a rights issue at which time the debt can be converted to equity. One way or another we’ll figure a re-financing offer that allows the club to go forward.

3)Stage one is basically stabilising the club and the finances. We need to appoint a first-team manager and build an infrastructure around him. We have to re-engage with the fans and take our position back within Scottish football. In the medium term, it’s about getting capital to develop the club back to a level where it can genuinely compete to win the Premier League championship.

4)We have to make some fairly significant changes to the footballing side. But before that it is critical that we get the right manager in because we are bringing a manager into a team that is obviously not equipped to compete in the Premier League and is really struggling.

"You would have thought that when Rangers were demoted they would have fairly comfortably come through the lower leagues into the Premiership and then maybe struggled for a season or two.

"But right now we are struggling to get out of the Championship. Given the need to balance budgets and just be more sensible about the way the money is spent, we are going to have to get a manager who has the capacity to identify and manage players.

"So I would imagine that the single most important decision will be identifying the right manager, who has all of these qualities. It really is someone who is more of a coach."

5 In the medium term, it’s about getting capital to develop the club back to a level where it can genuinely compete to win the Premier League championship.

Not every year, but to be competing every year. Another priority would be to have meaningful fan representation and ownership, not just symbolically. To really engage the fans in the running and funding of the club. We have to look at other areas that have been decimated. Arguably, a chief scout is the most important person at the club because they identify talent to bring though. It’s ridiculous a club of Rangers’ size doesn’t have one just now. In the longer term, you’d like to think we can get back to playing at Champions League level again

6) That’s why I think I think the key shareholders are going to be people like myself, the group Paul put together previously, George and the chaps. I think you are going to need a consortium of some of the wealthier supporters who are willing to put money into the club.

That's just me quickly bullet pointing in response to your points on Sarver.

If you are genuinely interested there are plenty threads containing his interviews on their plans.

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279529

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279530

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279664

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

aww ffs this lie has been exposed a thousand times in here , it was a lie started by the Irish blogger , who didn't have the brains to decipher a spread sheet , seriously piss of with crap , how much nonsense can you make up in one thread

The truth hurts eh.

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

And wants £200M to sell by all accounts. Not too bad an investment in addition to all the publicity for his brand

Are you & skullery twins - he writes shite as well.

[insider 123]

If King wins I think Ashley will have something up his sleeve to take the legs from underneath him.I'm also a wee bit concerned regarding king and the fit and proper person test.

If Ashley wins It will be another round of loans in the not too distant future.

In an ideal world I wouldn't have either of them but given the choice I'd go for king.

I think Ashley will win the vote unfortunately..

[macranger 296]

I just can't see Ashley doing nothing before the EGM, I fear he will have some game changer planned.

Will probably buy more shares in his maws name.

[trains 588]

1) We’d be looking to refinance very, very quickly. If there was a delay in any way we can put debt in - the financial crisis will be solved. When we came in November we were willing to put £16 million into the club and that money is still there from the same people. It has just been blocked. That would be unblocked by a change in board control. One way or another we’ll get the cash into the club.”

2)Debt initially until which time there is a rights issue at which time the debt can be converted to equity. One way or another we’ll figure a re-financing offer that allows the club to go forward.

3)Stage one is basically stabilising the club and the finances. We need to appoint a first-team manager and build an infrastructure around him. We have to re-engage with the fans and take our position back within Scottish football. In the medium term, it’s about getting capital to develop the club back to a level where it can genuinely compete to win the Premier League championship.

4)We have to make some fairly significant changes to the footballing side. But before that it is critical that we get the right manager in because we are bringing a manager into a team that is obviously not equipped to compete in the Premier League and is really struggling.

"You would have thought that when Rangers were demoted they would have fairly comfortably come through the lower leagues into the Premiership and then maybe struggled for a season or two.

"But right now we are struggling to get out of the Championship. Given the need to balance budgets and just be more sensible about the way the money is spent, we are going to have to get a manager who has the capacity to identify and manage players.

"So I would imagine that the single most important decision will be identifying the right manager, who has all of these qualities. It really is someone who is more of a coach."

5 In the medium term, it’s about getting capital to develop the club back to a level where it can genuinely compete to win the Premier League championship.

Not every year, but to be competing every year. Another priority would be to have meaningful fan representation and ownership, not just symbolically. To really engage the fans in the running and funding of the club. We have to look at other areas that have been decimated. Arguably, a chief scout is the most important person at the club because they identify talent to bring though. It’s ridiculous a club of Rangers’ size doesn’t have one just now. In the longer term, you’d like to think we can get back to playing at Champions League level again

6) That’s why I think I think the key shareholders are going to be people like myself, the group Paul put together previously, George and the chaps. I think you are going to need a consortium of some of the wealthier supporters who are willing to put money into the club.

That's just me quickly bullet pointing in response to your points on Sarver.

If you are genuinely interested there are plenty threads containing his interviews on their plans.

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279529

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279530

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279664

Sarver stated that the money is coming from him and in all those quotes from King its still "if's and buts" about how he thinks the money will be made available! Like many have said, King seems to want control on the back of others and any plan falls at the first hurdle if you dont have the ££££! Without one single strong investor I think we will always be in the position of boardroom politics and never move on from the current squabbling! The fact that you need to post so many links to so many different interviews without him confirming how much he wants to put in of his own cash to get control says it all. If I wanted something so badly and had the money to buy it outright then I would just go and do it - job done!

If the choice was between a Sarver like investor or King, which would you choose?

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

Isn't he planning to use the model of cfc - doesn't take much imagination to figure that our assets will be used as security - much like the co-op dome

And also wanting to spread the titles with cfc - what are we heading for here ffs.

[kingtom80 166]

i dont know if dave king has over 50 per cent off the vote i just hope he,

has for we must get rid off this mob as soon as possible.

[Zappa6995 3,688]

Cant see it myself.

[B1872 21,136]

i dont know if dave king has over 50 per cent off the vote i just hope he,

has for we must get rid off this mob as soon as possible.

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