GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What do you think Smith's thinking will be this time? Another 4-5-1 hopeing to nick a goal,or try a 4-4-2 even after the loss at Ibrox? a think smith will go 4-4-2 is a 1 of game a cup final so hel go for broke not like yesterday where he played for a draw The Zenit game was also a one off Cup final but that still didnt stop Walter from adopting the cautious approach for that one, the guy doesn't know the meaning of the word attack!! I don't think that team were capable of lining up any other way, this team can...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What do you think Smith's thinking will be this time? Another 4-5-1 hopeing to nick a goal,or try a 4-4-2 even after the loss at Ibrox? a think smith will go 4-4-2 is a 1 of game a cup final so hel go for broke not like yesterday where he played for a draw The Zenit game was also a one off Cup final but that still didnt stop Walter from adopting the cautious approach for that one, the guy doesn't know the meaning of the word attack!! I don't think that team were capable of lining up any other way, this team can...... So why did Walter chose to play pretty much the exact same line-up at the Piggery that failed against Aberdeen? As someone pointed out in another thread when we played 4-4-2 at Ibrox in the last OF we were the better side and controlled most of the game, they had one chance and they took it, sometimes that happens in football, the better teams lose. Walter and his negativity cost us heavily last season and if he doesnt change his ways it will end up costing us this season also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What do you think Smith's thinking will be this time? Another 4-5-1 hopeing to nick a goal,or try a 4-4-2 even after the loss at Ibrox? a think smith will go 4-4-2 is a 1 of game a cup final so hel go for broke not like yesterday where he played for a draw The Zenit game was also a one off Cup final but that still didnt stop Walter from adopting the cautious approach for that one, the guy doesn't know the meaning of the word attack!! I don't think that team were capable of lining up any other way, this team can...... So why did Walter chose to play pretty much the exact same line-up at the Piggery that failed against Aberdeen? As someone pointed out in another thread when we played 4-4-2 at Ibrox in the last OF we were the better side and controlled most of the game, they had one chance and they took it, sometimes that happens in football, the better teams lose. Walter and his negativity cost us heavily last season and if he doesnt change his ways it will end up costing us this season also. I disagree , i thought we were worse at ibrox... The formation worked yesterday and we should ahve won the game. Walters "negativity" got us to a european final last year, two cups and a league we were cheated out of as we were forced into playing to many games in too short a period of time..... In fact when walter did try the 4-4-2 (like against dundee utd.) last season it didn't end well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoyd 355 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 We can't play like we did yesterday, no way, if we do well i just... i.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarLittle 2 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Never quite see the obsession with 4-4-2. Those that want it say 4-5-1 doesn't work because of an away game to Aberdeen and away to celtic but just about every other game we've played this season has been 4-4-2. We havent been dominating games using it, we haven't been putting on silky displays of attacking football with it and we've been dropping stupid points against teams we should be easily beating. Anyway as for the CIS cup is it not the case that Smith won't be picking the team as its McCoist who is in charge for the cups. Walter and his negativity cost us heavily last season and if he doesnt change his ways it will end up costing us this season also. Refereeing decisions and fixture congestion with the result fatigue cost us last season not Smith and his negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannochsideBear 355 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If Walter can set his stall out for a draw in the biggest cup final of his life, then you can bet your last dollar that he can set us up for a draw against the scum in the league cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmico1986 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 the only time 4-5-1 worked for us in an attacking sense was when we had alan hutton bombing down the right hand side eg celtic 3-0,lyon 3-0 since he left and broadfoot has filled the void it has been succesfully defensively but attacking wise it is woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 What do you think Smith's thinking will be this time? Another 4-5-1 hopeing to nick a goal,or try a 4-4-2 even after the loss at Ibrox? a think smith will go 4-4-2 is a 1 of game a cup final so hel go for broke not like yesterday where he played for a draw The Zenit game was also a one off Cup final but that still didnt stop Walter from adopting the cautious approach for that one, the guy doesn't know the meaning of the word attack!! I don't think that team were capable of lining up any other way, this team can...... So why did Walter chose to play pretty much the exact same line-up at the Piggery that failed against Aberdeen? As someone pointed out in another thread when we played 4-4-2 at Ibrox in the last OF we were the better side and controlled most of the game, they had one chance and they took it, sometimes that happens in football, the better teams lose. Walter and his negativity cost us heavily last season and if he doesnt change his ways it will end up costing us this season also. I disagree , i thought we were worse at ibrox... The formation worked yesterday and we should ahve won the game. Walters "negativity" got us to a european final last year, two cups and a league we were cheated out of as we were forced into playing to many games in too short a period of time..... In fact when walter did try the 4-4-2 (like against dundee utd.) last season it didn't end well Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Don't think i have ever read more shite in my life......well done...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmico1986 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Don't think i have ever read more shite in my life......well done...... it was a combination of both imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom28 8 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 we must go 44 2 and we will beat them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Don't think i have ever read more shite in my life......well done...... Well it's my opinion that we played in a manner that relied heavily on luck and that against Panathinaikos, Bremen and Fiorentina we got huge slices of luck in the away legs. Not that i cared at the time mind you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Don't think i have ever read more shite in my life......well done...... Well it's my opinion that we played in a manner that relied heavily on luck and that against Panathinaikos, Bremen and Fiorentina we got huge slices of luck in the away legs. Not that i cared at the time mind you. We did have some luck yes but to say we didn't tactically set up our team well to stifle, frustrate and then hit these teams on the break is extremely niave, one game could have been lucky but to get all the way to the final certainly cannot be put down to luck..... why would a Rangers fan want to run our achievments into the ground in such a way...very strange..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Luck got us to a European final, there was no tactical genius there. Don't think i have ever read more shite in my life......well done...... Well it's my opinion that we played in a manner that relied heavily on luck and that against Panathinaikos, Bremen and Fiorentina we got huge slices of luck in the away legs. Not that i cared at the time mind you. We did have some luck yes but to say we didn't tactically set up our team well to stifle, frustrate and then hit these teams on the break is extremely niave, one game could have been lucky but to get all the way to the final certainly cannot be put down to luck..... why would a Rangers fan want to run our achievments into the ground in such a way...very strange..... I don't, i just have a realistic view of how we achieved them. Like i said, at the time i didn't care. Perhaps i still wouldn't care if we'd had a go in the final but the game against Zenit summed it all up for me, he played for penalties and even when they scored he was reluctant to make changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I don't, i just have a realistic view of how we achieved them. Like i said, at the time i didn't care. Perhaps i still wouldn't care if we'd had a go in the final but the game against Zenit summed it all up for me, he played for penalties and even when they scored he was reluctant to make changes. The thing is you don’t have a realistic view, to put our whole run down to luck is ridiculous We lined up a fairly average squad of players against better teams with the hope of frustrating them and hitting them on the break, which worked four rounds in a row. Are we really to believe this isn’t to do with the tactics we employed but just down to this mythical luck……seriously ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Panathinaikos, Bremen and Fiorentina away certainly were luck. The rest, fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Manchester/the Uefa Cup Final was a failure anyway, we didn't win and take the trophy to Govan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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