Getstiffed 8,863 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Believe it or not, some people think you can. Not sure I accept their logic tbh. Seems a little bit of a stretch to me. And I thought religious people couldn't get any weirder...In the Netherlands, 42% of the members of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands (PKN) are nontheists. Non-belief among clergymen is not always perceived as a problem. Some follow the tradition of “Christian non-realism,” most famously expounded in the UK by Don Cupitt in the 1980s, which holds that God is a symbol or metaphor and that religious language is not matched by a transcendent reality. According to an investigation of 860 pastors in seven Dutch Protestant denominations, 1 in 6 clergy are either agnostic or atheist. In one of those denominations, the Remonstrant Brotherhood, the number of doubters was 42 percent. A minister of the PKN, Klaas Hendrikse has described God as "a word for experience, or human experience" and said that Jesus may have never existed. Hendrikse gained attention with his book published in November 2007, in which he said that it was not necessary to believe in God's existence in order to believe in 'God'. The Dutch title of the book translates as, 'Believing in a God who does not exist: manifesto of an atheist pastor'. Hendrikse writes in the book. 'God is for me not a being but a word for what can happen between people. Someone says to you, for example, 'I will not abandon you', and then makes those words come true. It would be perfectly alright to call that [relationship] God.' A General Synod found Klass Hendrikse's views were widely shared among both clergy and church members. The February 3, 2010 decision to allow Hendrikse to continue working as a pastor followed the advice of a regional supervisory panel that the statements by Hendrikse, “are not of sufficient weight to damage the foundations of the Church. The ideas of Hendrikse are theologically not new, and are in keeping with the liberal tradition that is an integral part of our church,” the special panel concluded. Darwin's Phd was Theism. The world is a strange place Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I would say im an Atheist with Protestant values from Protestant heritage, i wouldnt use the term "Protestant Atheist" but i would understand what someone meant by it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I would say im an Atheist with Protestant values from Protestant heritage, i wouldnt use the term "Protestant Atheist" but i would understand what someone meant by itShould we assume that your Protestant values are relating to the Christian teachings around turning the other cheek, peace, love and forgiveness? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck the bear 106 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I have a proposal. When we meet the scum next season or in the SC this season, I say we strike the fear of death into them before a ball is kicked and raise our banners glorifying soap. Pamolive, Cussins and the like should do it and good for a two goal advantage, not that we will need it, but would shut those dirty, stinking mhanky rhabid bastards to fuck up!You forgot lifebhoy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck the bear 106 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 We should all wear surgical masks at the next game vs them. Imagine the whole Rangers end at the piggerry wearing surgical masks and respirators I'm with you on this idea but if they turn up wearing surgical gloves i'm offski. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You forgot lifebhoyWhy don't we just singOh your showers are fixed nowWhy don't you go home Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Same guy that had Macleod in the Union Jack away kit in his sig I always hated that bastard shouting his mouth for months for about how Salmond was going to do this and that. The No vote came in he disappeared then he suddenly appears as soon as Dave King gets back on the scene,away ye go ya prize wanker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Anyone who is hurt or offended by their newco shite totally deserves to be. I have no time for their opinions nor their rancid history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Believe it or not, some people think you can. Not sure I accept their logic tbh. Seems a little bit of a stretch to me. And I thought religious people couldn't get any weirder...In the Netherlands, 42% of the members of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands (PKN) are nontheists. Non-belief among clergymen is not always perceived as a problem. Some follow the tradition of “Christian non-realism,” most famously expounded in the UK by Don Cupitt in the 1980s, which holds that God is a symbol or metaphor and that religious language is not matched by a transcendent reality. According to an investigation of 860 pastors in seven Dutch Protestant denominations, 1 in 6 clergy are either agnostic or atheist. In one of those denominations, the Remonstrant Brotherhood, the number of doubters was 42 percent. A minister of the PKN, Klaas Hendrikse has described God as "a word for experience, or human experience" and said that Jesus may have never existed. Hendrikse gained attention with his book published in November 2007, in which he said that it was not necessary to believe in God's existence in order to believe in 'God'. The Dutch title of the book translates as, 'Believing in a God who does not exist: manifesto of an atheist pastor'. Hendrikse writes in the book. 'God is for me not a being but a word for what can happen between people. Someone says to you, for example, 'I will not abandon you', and then makes those words come true. It would be perfectly alright to call that [relationship] God.' A General Synod found Klass Hendrikse's views were widely shared among both clergy and church members. The February 3, 2010 decision to allow Hendrikse to continue working as a pastor followed the advice of a regional supervisory panel that the statements by Hendrikse, “are not of sufficient weight to damage the foundations of the Church. The ideas of Hendrikse are theologically not new, and are in keeping with the liberal tradition that is an integral part of our church,” the special panel concluded. The mind boggles, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
285miles 502 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can anyone think of any other major club that uses another country's flag as it's main symbol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can anyone think of any other major club that uses another country's flag as it's main symbol?They are not normal people and trying to understand them defies logic.What other clubs fans wave the flag of a foreign 3rd world nation? What other clubs fans fans sing the national anthem of a foreign 3rd world country? What other clubs fans glorify terrorists who murder their own countrymen? What other clubs fans stink of shite and body odour? What other clubs fans spend every waking hour obsessing over their vastly superior and more successful rival ? What other clubs fans shag their sisters and batter their wives? What other clubs fans proclaim to be a club "open to all" whilst singing sectarian songs, terrorist songs and have been involved in so many instances of vile disgusting racism. They are not normal people. They are vile disgusting vermin and they are a scab on the arse of humanity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can anyone think of any other major club that uses another country's flag as it's main symbol?The timmigrant club is the only club, that in their entire histroy have never played a home game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They are not normal people and trying to understand them defies logic.What other clubs fans wave the flag of a foreign 3rd world nation? What other clubs fans fans sing the national anthem of a foreign 3rd world country? What other clubs fans glorify terrorists who murder their own countrymen? What other clubs fans stink of shite and body odour? What other clubs fans spend every waking hour obsessing over their vastly superior and more successful rival ? What other clubs fans shag their sisters and batter their wives? What other clubs fans proclaim to be a club "open to all" whilst singing sectarian songs, terrorist songs and have been involved in so many instances of vile disgusting racism. They are not normal people. They are vile disgusting vermin and they are a scab on the arse of humanity.I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here.It came to me when I tried to classify the timmigrant species and I realised that they're not actually mammals.Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but the timmigrants do not.They move to an area and multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way they can survive is to spread to another area.There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.Do you know what it is?It is a virus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullies_bowly_legs 3,805 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here.It came to me when I tried to classify the timmigrant species and I realised that they're not actually mammals.Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but the timmigrants do not.They move to an area and multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way they can survive is to spread to another area.There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern.Do you know what it is?It is a virus.You are Smith and I claim my £5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 if you're sitting arguing over this sort of thing (or even using the Jim Torbett abuse as a response for that matter) you are either a 14 year old, a mongo or a complete spanner.take your pick OP. Indeed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Should we assume that your Protestant values are relating to the Christian teachings around turning the other cheek, peace, love and forgiveness?No. Just hate taigs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Well said CA. Imagine how ridiculous it would be if some new team started up and they sang the Slovenian national anthem? Would be bonkers unless you were a tim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I always laugh when I see the sign at their pig sty saying "A club like no other" what the fuck ?It infers there is something totally different about it that any other football club in the World.Oh wait....there is Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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