Inigo 32,532 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Couldn't find a thread on this. I found it a bit of a strange one.Prob went like this: Shouting back and forth between the sheep and the mhanks. Mhank chants some IRA stuff, sheep says 'shove your IRA up your arse'. Sheep is arrested.Weird.AN Aberdeen fan today admitted inciting public disorder at a football match on Remembrance Sunday - by making a remark about the IRA to Celtic fans.Daniel Fraser made the sectarian comment on November 9 last year while hurling abuse at rival supporters who were at Pittodrie for the lunchtime fixture.The 24-year-old was part of a large group of Dons fans who were being monitored by police at half time near the fenced off area separating the two supporters.Fraser, who has been following the Dons since he was 16, was then caught by officers approaching Celtic fans before telling them to "shove the IRA up your a***".He appeared at Aberdeen Sheriff Court today where he admitted inciting public disorder by shouting, swearing and making the sectarian remark at the game.Sheriff Alison Stirling refused the Crown's call for a banning order preventing him going to future fixtures and instead fined him £300.The sheriff said a ban from football matches would be "disproportionate" given that Fraser had no previous history of getting into football related trouble.She said: "Obviously this is a matter of concern that this happened at a football match."But I'm not going to make a football banning order in this case."I regard this case as at the lower end of disorder."The court heard Fraser had been part of a large group of Dons fans who were trading jibes at the dividing fence between the two rival supports.Fiscal depute Karen Dow said: "At 12:30pm on the day the Scottish Premiership game between Aberdeen and Celtic was being held at Pittodrie."At 1:25pm during the half time interval police noticed the accused with a large group."He was singing and clapping his hands and pointing towards the Celtic supporters."Police requested he stop. He walked towards the segregation area and police heard things being shouted by the accused."He was stopped, cautioned, arrested and charged."He was taken to the police station where at that time he admitted he had said 'shove the IRA up your a***'."Defence agent Mike Horseman said that his client quickly accepted responsibility for his behaviour.He said: "He was singing and there were various remarks being shouted on both sides of the fence."He accepts that he made the remark."He did not realise at the time the significance of this."Fraser refused to comment when leaving the court yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,532 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 P.S. Excuse the title error. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigyboy9 416 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hmmmm! You actually could not make this shit up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Fuck sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So the same thing will happen if you replace IRA with ISIS or Al Qaeda? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose1986 703 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How in the hell is shouting anti IRA comments in any way, shape or form "sectarian"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mols94 3,669 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The fact that you can be arrested for slagging off a terrorist organisation is fucking ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Judical system is a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How in the Hell is this even possible? And what is the 'significance of this' ?? This country needs to take a good look at itself.. Won't be long before comments that upset someone - no matter what they are - are being treated the same! Dangerous road to go down!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'm simply lost for words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,862 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 This country is a fucking shambles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnclosureBear 2,919 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How in the hell is shouting anti IRA comments in any way, shape or form "sectarian"?Where has this report come from? I was about to say the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You could not make this shit up. So it's ok to broadcast a record that 'honours' deceased members of the IRA on UK radio, but you daren't shout a comment about said terrorist organisation at a bunch of Septic fans, even though it's not accompanied by the F word that seems to upset members of the judiciary.I wonder if the police will arrest the next Septic fan that shouts "up the 'ra" at the football, or can they do what they like with impunity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Double post.SHITE!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,815 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 tbh the current climate is scary. If that is considered sectarian god help us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Couldn't find a thread on this. I found it a bit of a strange one.Prob went like this: Shouting back and forth between the sheep and the mhanks. Mhank chants some IRA stuff, sheep says 'shove your IRA up your arse'. Sheep is arrested.Weird.I think you're probably on the right track there, bud.I don't see what's weird about it, though. The police did the right thing by stepping in and preventing the situation from escalating, but that was never a case that should have went to even the District Court. I dare say that his main crime was that he was wearing colours other than green and grey... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,532 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Where has this report come from? I was about to say the same.The OP? The DR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,532 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think you're probably on the right track there, bud.I don't see what's weird about it, though. The police did the right thing by stepping in and preventing the situation from escalating, but that was never a case that should have went to even the District Court. I dare say that his main crime wasn't to be wearing green and grey...Yeah, mate. No problem with the police stepping in and keeping order, but the rest seems ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Yeah, mate. No problem with the police stepping in and keeping order, but the rest seems ridiculous.Yeah, utterly ridiculous, but that's the way things are going. The criminal justice system in Scotland is a joke, and anyone who claims otherwise is, at best, an idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The OP? The DR.So the DR is now defining what is sectarian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,532 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 So the DR is now defining what is sectarian.Dunno what the charge was tbf. Dunno if it included a sectarian element. The DR's immaculate reporting doesn't say... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Dunno what the charge was tbf. Dunno if it included a sectarian element. The DR's immaculate reporting doesn't say...Can't see it being a sectarian charge, any lawyer would shoot that down in flames. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 What the fuck is happening to our country when it is an offence to be publicly anti terrorist.That scum murdered innocent women, children and men and furthermore murdered members of our armed forces tasked with keeping British citizens safe in a part of our own country.Fuck them and all who support them and their ideals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Can't see it being a sectarian charge, any lawyer would shoot that down in flames.There was a sectarian element to the charge: https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/426031/fan-in-court-over-remembrance-sunday-sectarian-charge/Given the appalling behaviour of a fair number of Septic fans on and around Remembrance Sunday every year, it really sticks in the craw that this lad was lifted for shouting an anti-IRA remark.We live in a very fucked up country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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