dalton 1,192 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28900636I admire harry for at least trying - In reality no chance or little of it happeningI understand his intentions are right and at the same timeit is a cry to help a football player who he respects.Gazza had in his own opinion apart from his home town club newcastlehis time at ibrox he loved the place .Listened to talksport whilst driving and they were taking to taskthe persons selling it to him.- but you cannot refuse to sell alcoholunless your not under age ?As colin murray the presenter said alcohol can be sold to the poor or the richthere is no rule for anyone that has an addiction (ie) alcoholic.The latest pictures of paul arent him just a shadow of a genius thatentertained us all - and we are with him in our thoughts . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,355 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 It's actually illegal to sell alcohol to anyone who is clearly inebriated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,869 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 As bad as this sounds its only a matter of time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalton 1,192 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 It is a disgrace that any calls to help - its plain to see that he is left to his ownSadly there is probably people or agency,s that could help ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Educator 1,572 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 ShanksRFC - "As bad as this sounds its only a matter of time "Sadly I think this is probably at the back of most of our minds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 No there really is not. In the final analysis the choice is his. I have watched it happen, personally, to an individual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 No there really is not. In the final analysis the choice is his. I have watched it happen, personally, to an individual.The choice is not his, it is an illness, a very dangerous illness and a very strong support network is needed regardless to help him, unfortunately he does not appear to have that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The choice of remaining addicted or to enter, and maintain, recovery is his and his alone. Certainly a support network can sustain him for a while, but in the end he has to make the decision of whether he will depend upon the support network or not. If he rejects that support network the results are inevitable.Harsh? Yes, but then the truth often is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 761 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The choice is not his, it is an illness, a very dangerous illness and a very strong support network is needed regardless to help him, unfortunately he does not appear to have that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 The choice is not his, it is an illness, a very dangerous illness and a very strong support network is needed regardless to help him, unfortunately he does not appear to have that.Well said, nobody wakes up one morning and say I want to be an alcoholic. Nobody wants to be depressed either but they usually come hand in hand with each other. It is to a degree a mind set that leads to this but it is not the same as telling someone they cannot do this, that will never overcome the problem, more productive is a reason to give the person to live.I wish with all my heart that Paul can sort himself out, however I doubt he knows how to now and that will never get him through this condition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Malvern,Well said, nobody wakes up one morning and say I want to be an alcoholic. Nobody wants to be depressed either but they usually come hand in hand with each other. It is to a degree a mind set that leads to this but it is not the same as telling someone they cannot do this, that will never overcome the problem, more productive is a reason to give the person to live.I wish with all my heart that Paul can sort himself out, however I doubt he knows how to now and that will never get him through this condition.I disagree with your post. All you are doing is providing a crutch to give him an excuse to continue on his destructive road.Maybe no one does wake up in the morning and decide to be an alcoholic, but they do make the decision to take that first drink. No one forces them to take it.If, and we know he has been through it many times, he has been given the tools to combat taking that first drink from his recovery network, then there is even less need to empathise with his situation. If he feels the need to take a drink then he can call his sponsor or one of many in his support group or even just a friend.In this case we know he called his friend to get help after he was inebriated. He could just as easy have made that call before he took a drink.When you get right down to it, the decision to take the first drink has overcome his decision to not take the first drink.It is, in reality, the same battle a non-smoker who used to be a smoker has. He is constantly fighting the many triggers he used to have, to not take that first drag of nicotine.With any addict the choice is theirs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fog 289 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Good old BBCJanuary 1998: He was given a warning by the Scottish FA after miming "playing the flute" - a sectarian gesture - during an Old Firm game against Celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,935 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 A sectarian gesture Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fog 289 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 A sectarian gesture Indeed. Is it just mining or does playing a flue come under sectarian gestures? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,935 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Indeed. Is it just mining or does playing a flue come under sectarian gestures?Well I've heard of sectarian whistling mate so maybe this is the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Cracking gesture.I feel for his family now, more than anything.Everytime the phone rings they will be wondering if that's it all over or if it's someone telling them where he's been found.Love Gazza to bits but there's only so much people can do, he has to want to beat the thing or no amount of help in the world will ever cure him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethemighty 186 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Sad to see him in this state but theres no helping some people. He needs some tough love someone like Walter to grab him by the scruff of the neck and lock him into a room until he dries out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'd love to see him take this offer and stick it but we all know he won't sadly. Won't be long until he's dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Good old BBCJanuary 1998: He was given a warning by the Scottish FA after miming "playing the flute" - a sectarian gesture - during an Old Firm game against Celtic.does that mean that the rhebel scummy bastards are being sectarian when they play there's or is it only the OO who are sectarian in their flute playing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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