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  1. **Official Rangers v Killie Match Thread**

    Cummings offers a goal threat, but really missing Morales's hold up play. If only we could combine the two into one player.
  2. Murty as manager

    If he puts up a good showing in the matches against them and also secures second spot with room to spare, I would give him more time. If he gets heavily beaten by them or drops more stupid points against the cannon fodder then he should go with our best wishes.
  3. Patience needed

  4. Patience needed

    Im not really sure of your point...
  5. Patience needed

    Last year we were 3rd.
  6. Patience needed

    Last year we finished 39 points behind celtic and 9 behind aberdeen. We have closed the gap considerably, and even more importantly, they are getting worse. It is not an easy thing to bridge that financial gap they have due to the free run they have had at the CL for 6 years. It cant be done overnight. I am still seeing improvements, and whilst we are improving, I think it would be foolish to cast away this in the hope for a miracle which has a bigger chance of setting us back.
  7. Patience needed

    I dont know if I agree with that though. Most of his fuck ups came in the games against the supposed cannon fodder, he has sorted this out for the most part.
  8. Patience needed

    Im fairly certain if we could have offloaded Cardoso and replaced him, we would have done it. The centre half we did bring in was injured for the game, and our first choice was stretchered off injured.
  9. Patience needed

    Yes they are. Well done for spotting the obvious.
  10. Patience needed

    I just dont think we can afford the kind of manager people would be expecting. The horrendous thing is that the idea of someone like Moyes would disgust us, yet he is so far out of our reach is is not even funny. We are either looking to replace Murty with a manager who is 'learning their trade' or one who is out of form or from an obscure league. Neither option fills me the confidence that they will be given the time needed to get things right.
  11. Patience needed

    No we have not, but I doubt that appointing Clarke would lead to us winning the league next year either. If he was not in touching distance within 2 months, he would be getting called a fenian and people would be demanding he was replaced. IMO, our best chance is to solidify our squad, get some stability hoe for a mistake by them to allow us to capitalise. That is our best chance. We had hope yesterday for a reason. Murty had turned things around and had us playing well. They had also had a rough patch. I honestly didnt see a huge gulf on the field yesterday. It was a 50/50 game with superior finishing causing the result. Dembele is a good player, regardless of how much people wish to deny it. His first goal was a cracker and his pass for the second was quality as well. He will be away in the summer, so hopefully they replace him poorly. Murty has lost 1 game out of 3 against them. The loss was by a single goal, in a game we should have won. Yes he made mistakes IMO, but it was not all down to him. There was luck and quality involved as well. Im holding fire till the end of the season to make up my mind, but he deserves more time IMO, not already deciding his fate.
  12. Patience needed

    Everyone had their hopes up yesterday because we were in good form and a win would have given us a proper title race. We lost a game to a team who have 3 times our wage bill, to a manager who took them to a treble last year and went a season unbeaten domestically. Even up until the sending off, it was a pretty even game. After the sending off, we should have won, but didnt. The team and Murty need to shoulder the blame for that. I cant help but feel that people calling for Murty's head are being premature though. We are in danger of changing and swapping managers every 6 months and hoping for a miracle rather than giving someone the time required to actually build something. Yes, Murty made mistakes, but he is a young manager and is still learning. Even though he is a young manager, he is IMO miles better than anyone we have had since Walter. The improvement in form under him raised expectations and gave some false hope. He needs time to continue to improve the squad. He has to the end of the season to be judged. I think it is stupid to say that unless he wins the semi final, then he has to go. How can it be 'expected' that he go out and beat a team who have 3x the financial backing? They are the favourites. A win against them would be amazing, but it would be unexpected and him over achieving. If he consolidates 2nd place and gets us competing well against them, then I will be happy to give him more time. If we drop many more points to other teams, or get thrashed in the semi final, then it may be a sign that the progress he is making is stalling and should consider our options. What I dont want to see is our fans demanding that we bring in a manager to win the league instantly, and then start calling for his head if he does not look on course to do so after 6 months. It is just a perpetual cycle of failure where the gap just increases rather than closes.
  13. Murty's league record is it good enough

    Ive not given up on him yet. The league was never realistically in reach, but yesterday was a let down. If things had just went a little differently, and Edward had sky'd his shot and Morelos had not missed his sitter, then its a different outcome. Wasnt an awful lot in the game even before the sending off. He has till the end of the season, and should be judged when it is over. Realistically, we were playing a team who have a wage bill 3x ours, with a manager on several times as much as ours. We are in danger of getting into a self destructive circle where we sack a manager every 6 months because he has failed by not instantly toppling a team who have a wage bill magnitudes higher than ours. We need to give the manager time to develop our team.
  14. Bates Wage?

    I think the most sensible way to look at this is to consider how much we would we have to spend to replace him, or what kind of value would we look at to sell him. He can walk away from the club for nothing in a few months. If we were to offer him £6k a week on a 3 year deal, then the cost of having him for this entire period would be under £1m. Could we really be confident that we could replace the boy by bringing in another player in a wages and fee deal for under £1m over 3 years? I don't feel confident that we can. If an English team are already offering money around the £15k mark then I doubt we have much hope of holding onto him.
  15. Ginger Maldini Speaks

    Like his attitude. Speaks far better than I expected to be honest. Seems a bright enough guy.