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9 hours ago, Colin Traive said:

Two quick thoughts on this: firstly, the SFA will have to act if a class action of over one hundred victims is successful against a member club. The idea that one of their clubs has been found guilty of concealing child rape will mean they must act or be deemed unfit for purpose themselves.

Secondly, just how much are we talking about here? Will it be a flat rate or will the compensation be calculated on a case by case basis depending on the impact on the poor victim? £20,000, £50,000, £100,000? How do you put a price on a ruined life and lost childhood?

They will have to act as you say, but it’ll be as minimal as they can get away with without giving cause for a national inquiry as they are up to their necks in it. 

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10 hours ago, 1690tamRFC said:

The idea that one of their clubs has been found guilty of concealing child rape will mean they must act or be deemed unfit for purpose themselves.

Now there is a word ,deemed ,nothing deemed about it they are as guilty as the scum . They knew what was happening and done fuck all, just like them they hoped this would disappear as they share the blame and guilt.

They sat on their hands and watched a member of their so called association eviscerated and vilified in the eyes of the wider public for using a tax scheme that was legitimate.

They chose to jump into the swamp with the agitators and instigators to destroy the biggest club in Scotland .

Ask yourself why, could it be nothing more than jealously,or the more sinister reason of self preservation.

They knew this shit would come out but having your nemesis put out the game, a compliant media willing to bury any bad news and every  thing will just go on as before.make no mistake they wanted Rangers dead and buried and still do, no Rangers and they Hoover up whatever money there is to be made from the game.

Who else would have stepped up to the plate to give support to the Victims.

The bastions of Sporting Integrity will have to be dragged into a court to finally accept their guilt.

What have the agitators and instigators to say on this, very little or nothing at all,( it's all point scoring H***)they behave like a small child, close your eyes and cover your ears and hopefully it all disappears.

What are the thoughts of ,Call it Out, Nil by Mouth, Friends of Ireland ,FARE, Media pundits,Churches,Government,Councils and all the rest,we will never know. Funny how they can spout their shoite on anything and everything but not on the biggest scandal in the world of sport and in the history of a once proud nation formerly known as Scotland,just like the separate entity wee Nicola might go for a name change if she gets her way to say The Nationalist Republic of Albain to ingratiate herself even more with her targeted voters.

The masters of deception have wheedled themselves into power aided and abetted by in the main the enablers from Edinburgh and the sheep who actually thought they could win a league and the rest of the spineless association bought into this lock stock and barrell.

When are these clubs and their supporters going to wake up and  realise they were conned by big Pete.

A man who if justice is to be served should be in the dock along with the enablers,facilitators,deniers at celtic park,

Everyone of them knew ,we are told it is shameful to sing BJK and call them Paedos.

Well for once their right ,they are pederasts.

Vote them Out.

Kick them Out.

 

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20 hours ago, Getstiffed said:

Being sued for harboring, facilitating and covering up a child sex ring will hurt them plenty. 

Agreed. The actions of the old regime will hurt them financially. They will soak up that financial penalty easily though. 

The actions of the current board will hurt them too, The way they have dealt with this has been disgusting, seperate entity and secret investigations etc. If you cast your mind back to when lieswell revealed the secret investigation story there was also a claim that they were making a statement 2 days later. That was 2 months ago an no statement ever happened. 

A full public inquiry is needed it's already been called for by a number of people but its all fallen on deaf ears do far, I suspect that dark forces are at work here. Dark forces that are determined to keep this as low as possible. Any public enquiry would hammer the current regime and cause huge brand damage. 

At almost all games this year they have played their have been plenty peado chants but no media exposure, I wonder why 

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28 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

The actions of the current board will hurt them too

100% in agreement here, despite Keevens, Dornan, Guidi and a host of others publicly stating that the board should apologise for the actions of the past although they themselves are not responsible. Would this refer to the the incumbent board who lied about the date the club became aware of allegations, claimed it was a  ’separate entity’, hired a PR firm to deflect responsibility and has a senior member ‘Lawell’ who may very well be complicit in a pay off and NDA from the 90’s? For the sake of moral justice and decency a full public enquiry must be the way forward...

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33 minutes ago, Robmc1 said:

100% in agreement here, despite Keevens, Dornan, Guidi and a host of others publicly stating that the board should apologise for the actions of the past although they themselves are not responsible. Would this refer to the the incumbent board who lied about the date the club became aware of allegations, claimed it was a  ’separate entity’, hired a PR firm to deflect responsibility and has a senior member ‘Lawell’ who may very well be complicit in a pay off and NDA from the 90’s? For the sake of moral justice and decency a full public enquiry must be the way forward...

Nobody with any sort of power is daring to ask any questions and anybody that does ask them any questions publicly. Like Kelly. He denies and says he is speaking to a lawyer. Like lieswell. Oh we have a secret enquiry. 

What's the bet nothing ever comes from the secret enquiry and will end up like the tour of Japan lie. The only place this will ever exist is on forums like this and eventually be thought upon like an urban myth. 

Like so much shite that gets flung at them they just ignore it. And eventually it goes away because nobody makes them accountable

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He who controls the narrative has the power to see how this plays out, the scum have their placemen ,in the media,theSFA,UEFA, They have played the long game, whilst we sat back,called them paranoid,laughed at them,kept our dignified silence and by fuck where has that got us.

They have mastered the propaganda war through all of the above, if anyone challenges  them It's whataboutary , point scoring and all the rest.

It's got to the stage where enemies of this Country are allowed to march through the streets of Scotland ,portrayed as peaceful demonstrators, who's next will G.C.C allow ISIS to do the same.

If you have the temerity to object to this you are a sectarian thug.

Think about it, you have the First Minister and the leader of G.C.C. singing from the same hymn sheet, they will reroute Orange Order marches to appease the Roman Catholic voters and pressure from the non sectarian groups like call it out, all under the bogus mantra of anti Irish Catholic bigotry from the indigenous population.

They have become emboldened by the lack of censure and sanctions from the football authorities and worse still from the political authorities who it would appear are bending over backwards to appease them.

Where did they learn their tactical manouverings  you may ask, straight out of the IRA's /Sinn Fein war manual, written by good old Gerry and Martin.

These cunts don't give up their Political aspirations of a United Ireland because of the so called peace process, the proxy war is on going and Brexit presents them with the opportunity to achieve what they couldn't through the bomb and bullet.

Corbyn ,McDonnell,Sturgeon and their ilk are appeasers in every sense of the word and they will do anything and everything to break up the United Kingdom.

Democrats ,my arse  they are a bunch of Nationalistic  Fascists who can't or won't accept the results of Three Referendums that didn't go their way.

The only way out of this impasse around Brexit will in my opinion be played out in the streets of England and elsewhere, politicians who will not endorse  the will of the people are and will be responsible for the civil unrest that will come about.

Remember Thatchers poll tax ,accepted by the majority up here but abolished within the week when the English took to the streets.

Say what you like about the English  but they are not shy when it comes to challenging an injustice. History tells us this and if you can't or won't accept these facts then you might have to quicker than you think.

Maybe this United Kingdom is heading into a civil war akin to the round heads and Cavaliers , far fetched you may say, it couldn't happen in a civilised country , well when you push people to the extremes it can happen.

What you have to decide is who's side you are on, the forces of good or the forces of evil.

Vote them Out.

Kick them Out.

Or if push comes to shove ,shoot them Out.

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52 minutes ago, Lets go 55 said:

He who controls the narrative has the power to see how this plays out, the scum have their placemen ,in the media,theSFA,UEFA, They have played the long game, whilst we sat back,called them paranoid,laughed at them,kept our dignified silence and by fuck where has that got us.

They have mastered the propaganda war through all of the above, if anyone challenges  them It's whataboutary , point scoring and all the rest.

It's got to the stage where enemies of this Country are allowed to march through the streets of Scotland ,portrayed as peaceful demonstrators, who's next will G.C.C allow ISIS to do the same.

If you have the temerity to object to this you are a sectarian thug.

Think about it, you have the First Minister and the leader of G.C.C. singing from the same hymn sheet, they will reroute Orange Order marches to appease the Roman Catholic voters and pressure from the non sectarian groups like call it out, all under the bogus mantra of anti Irish Catholic bigotry from the indigenous population.

They have become emboldened by the lack of censure and sanctions from the football authorities and worse still from the political authorities who it would appear are bending over backwards to appease them.

Where did they learn their tactical manouverings  you may ask, straight out of the IRA's /Sinn Fein war manual, written by good old Gerry and Martin.

These cunts don't give up their Political aspirations of a United Ireland because of the so called peace process, the proxy war is on going and Brexit presents them with the opportunity to achieve what they couldn't through the bomb and bullet.

Corbyn ,McDonnell,Sturgeon and their ilk are appeasers in every sense of the word and they will do anything and everything to break up the United Kingdom.

Democrats ,my arse  they are a bunch of Nationalistic  Fascists who can't or won't accept the results of Three Referendums that didn't go their way.

The only way out of this impasse around Brexit will in my opinion be played out in the streets of England and elsewhere, politicians who will not endorse  the will of the people are and will be responsible for the civil unrest that will come about.

Remember Thatchers poll tax ,accepted by the majority up here but abolished within the week when the English took to the streets.

Say what you like about the English  but they are not shy when it comes to challenging an injustice. History tells us this and if you can't or won't accept these facts then you might have to quicker than you think.

Maybe this United Kingdom is heading into a civil war akin to the round heads and Cavaliers , far fetched you may say, it couldn't happen in a civilised country , well when you push people to the extremes it can happen.

What you have to decide is who's side you are on, the forces of good or the forces of evil.

Vote them Out.

Kick them Out.

Or if push comes to shove ,shoot them Out.

No likes left so would like to say great Post mate.

as above couldn’t agree more with everything u said.

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1 hour ago, Lets go 55 said:

He who controls the narrative has the power to see how this plays out, the scum have their placemen ,in the media,theSFA,UEFA, They have played the long game, whilst we sat back,called them paranoid,laughed at them,kept our dignified silence and by fuck where has that got us.

They have mastered the propaganda war through all of the above, if anyone challenges  them It's whataboutary , point scoring and all the rest.

It's got to the stage where enemies of this Country are allowed to march through the streets of Scotland ,portrayed as peaceful demonstrators, who's next will G.C.C allow ISIS to do the same.

If you have the temerity to object to this you are a sectarian thug.

Think about it, you have the First Minister and the leader of G.C.C. singing from the same hymn sheet, they will reroute Orange Order marches to appease the Roman Catholic voters and pressure from the non sectarian groups like call it out, all under the bogus mantra of anti Irish Catholic bigotry from the indigenous population.

They have become emboldened by the lack of censure and sanctions from the football authorities and worse still from the political authorities who it would appear are bending over backwards to appease them.

Where did they learn their tactical manouverings  you may ask, straight out of the IRA's /Sinn Fein war manual, written by good old Gerry and Martin.

These cunts don't give up their Political aspirations of a United Ireland because of the so called peace process, the proxy war is on going and Brexit presents them with the opportunity to achieve what they couldn't through the bomb and bullet.

Corbyn ,McDonnell,Sturgeon and their ilk are appeasers in every sense of the word and they will do anything and everything to break up the United Kingdom.

Democrats ,my arse  they are a bunch of Nationalistic  Fascists who can't or won't accept the results of Three Referendums that didn't go their way.

The only way out of this impasse around Brexit will in my opinion be played out in the streets of England and elsewhere, politicians who will not endorse  the will of the people are and will be responsible for the civil unrest that will come about.

Remember Thatchers poll tax ,accepted by the majority up here but abolished within the week when the English took to the streets.

Say what you like about the English  but they are not shy when it comes to challenging an injustice. History tells us this and if you can't or won't accept these facts then you might have to quicker than you think.

Maybe this United Kingdom is heading into a civil war akin to the round heads and Cavaliers , far fetched you may say, it couldn't happen in a civilised country , well when you push people to the extremes it can happen.

What you have to decide is who's side you are on, the forces of good or the forces of evil.

Vote them Out.

Kick them Out.

Or if push comes to shove ,shoot them Out.

The riots on the streets have been predicted by many, me also. But deep down never really thought it would happen. What it will escalate to is anybodys guess. 

And I can't help thinking it's been a deliberate ploy from the ruling minority of Republican morons to let it get out of control. I mean why the fuck is there a spike in Irish Republican marches in Scotland when there is very little actually going on on the island in question. 

The tarriers in this country are getting away with everything. That's the reason why this child sex abuse scandal has been allowed to get to the stage its at where the club in question can get away with ignoring the victims and making up any story they wish to keep it at arms length 

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If and I say if ,it will b a  sorry day for the United Kingdom,to go through 2 world wars only to succumb to the treasonous bastards among us .

The cunts who ran away,gave  succour  to our enemies ,and their bastardised offspring  are  allowed to do as they please.

By fuck I wish my Da would have brought me up as a in their eyes a bigot.but he didn't and I thank him for that.

These cunts know no shame, from bombing,raping innocent children they don't  give a fuck.

I am too old to get involved in physical confrontations with the enemy , you can be involved in other ways , teach your children well to the evil bastards that are amongst us.

No one wants their children brought up in a country riven by sectarian tensions, but the appeasing powers that be are doing their best to bring this about.

Kick them Out.

Vote them Out.

And if the worst comes to the worst shoot them Out.

 

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7 hours ago, magic8ball said:

Nobody with any sort of power is daring to ask any questions and anybody that does ask them any questions publicly. Like Kelly. He denies and says he is speaking to a lawyer. Like lieswell. Oh we have a secret enquiry. 

What's the bet nothing ever comes from the secret enquiry and will end up like the tour of Japan lie. The only place this will ever exist is on forums like this and eventually be thought upon like an urban myth. 

Like so much shite that gets flung at them they just ignore it. And eventually it goes away because nobody makes them accountable

If someone in the Scottish press had the stomach to pursue this story. Lawell should have been asked, Why are you having an enquiry when you've stated before the boys club is a separate entity?  What is there to investigate? 

An enquiry that survivors have stated they have had no contact regarding. 

For me its nothing more  than another deflection tactic. Designed to get heat off them following the times article and questions from the Tory msp Adam Tomkins why lawell hadn't responded to him yet. 

The board of scum fc are as complicit in this,  as the other board decades ago. They have just like the others put the brand ahead of anything else.

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27 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

If someone in the Scottish press had the stomach to pursue this story. Lawell should have been asked, Why are you having an enquiry when you've stated before the boys club is a separate entity?  What is there to investigate? 

An enquiry that survivors have stated they have had no contact regarding. 

For me its nothing more  than another deflection tactic. Designed to get heat off them following the times article and questions from the Tory msp Adam Tomkins why lawell hadn't responded to him yet. 

The board of scum fc are as complicit in this,  as the other board decades ago. They have just like the others put the brand ahead of anything else.

It’s sickening how much power they have in Scotland, nothing else can explain the twisted stories(cbc was working for Rangers) and lacklustre reporting. 

The SFA have had the interim report for over one year detailing the connections between cbc and cfc, it’s great the media have finally highlighted it but the fact it took so long is abhorrent. Why has the SFA not acted on this report, no one wants to hold them to account. A country with a free media is what stops immorality happening in the governance of institutions and countries, we are far from that and it’s fucking child abuse that these disgusting bastards are covering up.  

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25 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

It’s sickening how much power they have in Scotland, nothing else can explain the twisted stories(cbc was working for Rangers) and lacklustre reporting. 

The SFA have had the interim report for over one year detailing the connections between cbc and cfc, it’s great the media have finally highlighted it but the fact it took so long is abhorrent. Why has the SFA not acted on this report, no one wants to hold them to account. A country with a free media is what stops immorality happening in the governance of institutions and countries, we are far from that and it’s fucking child abuse that these disgusting bastards are covering up.  

Exactly we are talking about child abuse on a terrifying level. 100+ survivors so far and not one thing has been done to Scum FC. In what other country in the world would this happen. It's sickening. 

The courts cases will be vital now. If the court cases are successful, the separate entity defence is ended. 

The pressure will then mount and the SFA will be shamed into action. If their is any justice scum fc will be punished like penn state. 

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43 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

If someone in the Scottish press had the stomach to pursue this story. Lawell should have been asked, Why are you having an enquiry when you've stated before the boys club is a separate entity?  What is there to investigate? 

An enquiry that survivors have stated they have had no contact regarding. 

For me its nothing more  than another deflection tactic. Designed to get heat off them following the times article and questions from the Tory msp Adam Tomkins why lawell hadn't responded to him yet. 

The board of scum fc are as complicit in this,  as the other board decades ago. They have just like the others put the brand ahead of anything else.

The secret investigation was called out at the time by the Lawyer from Thomsons as a disgusting deflection tactic. But since the media is stitched up and hollicom have their input too nobody in the mainstream is their to actually challenge that scumbag lieswell. 

He can say what ever he likes knowing full well he will get away with it. 

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4 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Exactly we are talking about child abuse on a terrifying level. 100+ survivors so far and not one thing has been done to Scum FC. In what other country in the world would this happen. It's sickening. 

The courts cases will be vital now. If the court cases are successful, the separate entity defence is ended. 

The pressure will then mount and the SFA will be shamed into action. If their is any justice scum fc will be punished like penn state. 

Where will the pressure come from to force the SFA into anything, that's the main issue here on them ever having any sanctions other than compensation. 

The media ain't interested. Their are not enough politicians interested and if it comes from us we are just batted aside as point scoring bigots. And somehow they then gain the moral high ground. 

 

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1 minute ago, magic8ball said:

Where will the pressure come from to force the SFA into anything, that's the main issue here on them ever having any sanctions other than compensation. 

The media ain't interested. Their are not enough politicians interested and if it comes from us we are just batted aside as point scoring bigots. And somehow they then gain the moral high ground. 

 

The scottish media are not interested.  But I think more pressure will come from outside Scotland. 

The barry bennell case, man city and crewe stories are news and getting a lot of traction.  A story about a football club losing cases with 100+ survivors in court regarding child abuse will make the headlines. Let's also not forgot crimes that took place on US soil could still result in legal action too.

That kind of headline is going to lead to questions being thrown at the sfa, scottish media and government for lack of action.  I think it's too big to brush away or bury. 

Self preservation kicks in then and I think they'll condemn and punish scum fc severely. This too save their own worthless backsides. 

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3 hours ago, Howsitgoing said:

It’s sickening how much power they have in Scotland, nothing else can explain the twisted stories(cbc was working for Rangers) and lacklustre reporting. 

The SFA have had the interim report for over one year detailing the connections between cbc and cfc, it’s great the media have finally highlighted it but the fact it took so long is abhorrent. Why has the SFA not acted on this report, no one wants to hold them to account. A country with a free media is what stops immorality happening in the governance of institutions and countries, we are far from that and it’s fucking child abuse that these disgusting bastards are covering up.  

Rod Petrie is their chairman and the vice chair is another taig, Mick Mulraney.

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12 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Exactly we are talking about child abuse on a terrifying level. 100+ survivors so far and not one thing has been done to Scum FC. In what other country in the world would this happen. It's sickening. 

The courts cases will be vital now. If the court cases are successful, the separate entity defence is ended. 

The pressure will then mount and the SFA will be shamed into action. If their is any justice scum fc will be punished like penn state. 

The SFA cannot be shamed into action, their disgusting rule removal which stops punishment fo historic crimes or something like that means they csn sit back and say "we can't do anything" 

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14 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said:

The scottish media are not interested.  But I think more pressure will come from outside Scotland. 

The barry bennell case, man city and crewe stories are news and getting a lot of traction.  A story about a football club losing cases with 100+ survivors in court regarding child abuse will make the headlines. Let's also not forgot crimes that took place on US soil could still result in legal action too.

That kind of headline is going to lead to questions being thrown at the sfa, scottish media and government for lack of action.  I think it's too big to brush away or bury. 

Self preservation kicks in then and I think they'll condemn and punish scum fc severely. This too save their own worthless backsides. 

I think the Scottish media are interested mate , but they are shitebags all of them. Somebody could be a hero to totally bring this to the fore but not one of them has the balls. The US crimes could be the key as you say. 

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