BigAmo'sThighs 848 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, psb07158 said: John McGinn is everything that's wrong with Scottish football and why we'll struggle to qualify for international tournaments. No technical ability whatsoever, just aggression and legs to run all day. Unfortunately right now, in the league we play in, you need someone like that in your team. Don't agree with that at all tbh, he's impressed me recently. I believed the very same a few months back but I've done a U-Turn on him. I think McGinn is the best Scottish midfielder in the SPL at the minute. He drives his team forward, he keeps things reasonably simple, he's left sided, strong and quick in the tackle and can run all day. Exactly what we need imo. I think him sitting with Jack and McCrorie would be lethal 99% sure he's a Tim, but I'd like to see him at Ibrox ETA - we should take Morgan too while we can Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,608 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Will be hard to get anyone in under this board we are a shambles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Keep hearing this argument that because he scores goals for Motherwell he will automatically score goals for us, but it's a completely false argument. The space he gets at Motherwell is far more than what he would get with us, teams park 9-10 men behind the ball against us all the time. His game is nowhere near suited for that. He's scored 3 more league goals than Windass, a non striker, who gets absolutely slated on here. Not going to get wax lyrical over a guy with 8 league goals in 15 games. Moult also has two league penalty goals which upped his count.. 8 in 15 in league. Not bothered by 4 more in cups against us and the sheep? No one said automatically. But players who score 20+ goals in the Spl for provincial clubs demonstrate they can score in this league. It's hardly a false argument to suggest that that couldn't be replicated at ibrox with the possession we have and chances we create. The space he gets? Like what we gave him in the cup final? Penalties? He appears a fairly decent around striker who can poach, score from distance, has the desire to hit a pen, is good in the air and can bully centre halves. Exactly what we don't have and would undoubtedly strengthen us. I'd love to see him paired with Morelos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,172 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Ryju84 said: Where is the ambition? Or does he think he will be the next Vardy and progress up quickly. Motherwell to the English Championship? I think there's ambition , there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,786 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 54 minutes ago, BigAmo'sThighs said: Don't agree with that at all tbh, he's impressed me recently. I believed the very same a few months back but I've done a U-Turn on him. I think McGinn is the best Scottish midfielder in the SPL at the minute. He drives his team forward, he keeps things reasonably simple, he's left sided, strong and quick in the tackle and can run all day. Exactly what we need imo. I think him sitting with Jack and McCrorie would be lethal 99% sure he's a Tim, but I'd like to see him at Ibrox ETA - we should take Morgan too while we can McGinn is a stick on to end up at that mob as Scott Brown’s long term replacement IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Crazy how out of touch those running transfers are, 4 million for Pena and Herrera, all the Warburton signings, McKay for pennies, bringing in Nemane/Dalcio and then when given the chance to sign Moult/Morgan etc we don’t move heaven and earth to do it when it would save millions of pounds, Morgan not getting specialist treatment is scummy as fuck especially as the taigs will happily do what we won’t. 3/4 of the folk on here can spot a player better than the fucking club at times, it’s not as hard as it’s made out to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheGovanIniesta said: Crazy how out of touch those running transfers are, 4 million for Pena and Herrera, all the Warburton signings, McKay for pennies, bringing in Nemane/Dalcio and then when given the chance to sign Moult/Morgan etc we don’t move heaven and earth to do it when it would save millions of pounds, Morgan not getting specialist treatment is scummy as fuck especially as the taigs will happily do what we won’t. 3/4 of the folk on here can spot a player better than the fucking club at times, it’s not as hard as it’s made out to be. At times more than 3/4. When we played QP pretty much everyone was raving about Robertson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,786 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 There’s a centre half at Motherwell who’s meant to be quite impressive too, Cedric Kipre. He got in the team of the season so far on the Terrace Scottish Football Podcast. If we cant spot the best young players in our own league/country then there’s fuck all chance of us doing it even further afield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: At times more than 3/4. When we played QP pretty much everyone was raving about Robertson. Spot on mate, we are so out of touch, JJ spotted Morelos probably more so by liking the league of his nationality and seeing him there rather pissing about trying to be a smart arse scouting and waffling on about philosophies. So many folk in suits think they know football yet most of the senior posters on here who post before it’s general consensus could genuinely spot a player better (or tell you target men like garner and Herrera who were never prolific never would be). Anyone who sells Mckay for buttons needs hounded out, morons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, DBBTB said: There’s a centre half at Motherwell who’s meant to be quite impressive too, Cedric Kipre. He got in the team of the season so far on the Terrace Scottish Football Podcast. If we cant spot the best young players in our own league/country then there’s fuck all chance of us doing it even further afield. We haven't been great at that for a while it seems, the Andy Robertson example when we were actually playing in the same league as him always gets brought up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: Fucking hell. The reality starts to hit home when a Motherwell player that we quite fancy has a preference for a third rate English club and all that after a manager who prefers the sheep to us. Puts it all into perspective as to exactly where we are at and how we are regarded. We sit second in the league, our name and I would say that iunder normal circumstances that would be good enough to attract most, so where ot what is the problem? Of course we don't have to look very far, but it does show our brand no longer holds that captivation, that would attract the very best. No one has any respect for us, as the competition also no longer fear us and as the well publicised balance sheet shows, surrounded in financial instability. Add to that the well publicised actions of this board that erode integrity and ethos of the club. Then ask why we have not made moves for this little better than average player, but one of the better strikers in this backwater? Are we really so skint that we cannot afford a fucking Motherwell player? Are we so unattracrive that he wouldn't touch us? It appears after the McInnes saga, that the whole of Scotland have now seriously put us in the we are no longer relevant category. The rest have always hated us and I can live with that, but they are now laughing at us with due cause and that is what I find unacceptable. These recent MSM articles surrounding the McInnes saga aren't about hate, but all about what an irrelevance we have become and they are laughing their collective cocks off and that abomination of a statement eptomises what we have become under this board. If we can neither move nor attract a Motherwell player, I want to know just wtf the plans are are for us going forward and basically just wtf is going on. Oh right, we had an AGM recently! Have we actually spoken to him or his agent to express an interest? If not then how can it be said that he doesn't want to come to us? The man has had an offer that he has accepted in principle. Can't blame him for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, backup said: We're still three weeks away from the winter transfer window opening but already it looks like the wheels are in motion for some players when it comes to new deals. Louis Moult, who was one of the stories of the summer, probably won't provide the saga this time around. The Motherwell striker, who has been ruled out of action for a month with a hamstring injury, looks set to join Preston North End on a pre-contract. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1404211-football-talk-moult-to-preston-celtic-want-compper/ I see Pedro is saying it’s a bigger challenge than Rangers. Great, why don’t you recruit Pena and Herrera for the challenge ahead ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,786 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, simplythebest said: We haven't been great at that for a while it seems, the Andy Robertson example when we were actually playing in the same league as him always gets brought up Robertson was a standout but I still think it would have caused a stink among the fans if we had signed him and replaced Wallace with him. He could have come to the club but if he had been backup would he have reached the level he has? Lewis Morgan seems like such an obvious one at the moment. He even plays in a position where we are weak and need to improve but there hasn’t even been a sniff of interest and now it looks like he’ll be another player hoovered up by the celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: Fucking hell. The reality starts to hit home when a Motherwell player that we quite fancy has a preference for a third rate English club and all that after a manager who prefers the sheep to us. Puts it all into perspective as to exactly where we are at and how we are regarded. We sit second in the league, our name and I would say that iunder normal circumstances that would be good enough to attract most, so where ot what is the problem? Of course we don't have to look very far, but it does show our brand no longer holds that captivation, that would attract the very best. No one has any respect for us, as the competition also no longer fear us and as the well publicised balance sheet shows, surrounded in financial instability. Add to that the well publicised actions of this board that erode integrity and ethos of the club. Then ask why we have not made moves for this little better than average player, but one of the better strikers in this backwater? Are we really so skint that we cannot afford a fucking Motherwell player? Are we so unattracrive that he wouldn't touch us? It appears after the McInnes saga, that the whole of Scotland have now seriously put us in the we are no longer relevant category. The rest have always hated us and I can live with that, but they are now laughing at us with due cause and that is what I find unacceptable. These recent MSM articles surrounding the McInnes saga aren't about hate, but all about what an irrelevance we have become and they are laughing their collective cocks off and that abomination of a statement eptomises what we have become under this board. If we can neither move nor attract a Motherwell player, I want to know just wtf the plans are are for us going forward and basically just wtf is going on. Oh right, we had an AGM recently! Allegedly we offered 200k and then 400k PNE are said to have went in at 900k on the nail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,698 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, backup said: Allegedly we offered 200k and then 400k PNE are said to have went in at 900k on the nail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,698 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Motherwell aren't getting 900k for a player available on a pre contract Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,210 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Can't say I care Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Glad tbh he's not good enough for us,he wouldn't even make the taigs bench ffs and some think he's good enough for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,485 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Glad tbh he's not good enough for us,he wouldn't even make the taigs bench ffs and some think he's good enough for us Yet he's scored more goals than all their strikers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, DBBTB said: So the Record are saying. Increasing his wages ten times over. Absolutely sickening He'd be worth that for us to be honest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Glad tbh he's not good enough for us,he wouldn't even make the taigs bench ffs and some think he's good enough for us Not good enough for us? Utter nonsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I would still hope we try and move for him. The lack ambition argument is an interesting one. We’ve learned increasingly recently that our club doesn’t have the pull it once did. We are a clearly a bigger club than Preston but does he want to stay in the SPL? Moult has already proved that he can score goals in our league. We are not in Europe so you could argue that he feels he wants to test himself in a more competitive league and potentially put himself in the shop window for a Premiership club if he does well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, bordersbear said: Have we actually spoken to him or his agent to express an interest? If not then how can it be said that he doesn't want to come to us? The man has had an offer that he has accepted in principle. Can't blame him for that. No one is blaming for sure. We need someone of his calibre and type to play alongside Morelos. In days gone by, we would have been his first port of call. We in these days should have already approached him/agent, such is our need, but sadly our ambition is only matched by the size of our board's wallets and that aint very big, far less whatever the fuck their agenda is. We are a long way from our former glory in every sense, including out honour and integrity. This board have made sure of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGovanIniesta 1,000 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Morgan proves it’s our side that’s at fault for transfers if rumours are to be believed, we never go in for a player right away without pissing about, you’ve got to give a reason for these guys to turn down more money and a better standard of football, we don’t make players feel wanted half the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,986 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Gman36 said: We'd have offered him 15k then Ally certainly would! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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