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    them

    in General Football & Sport

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    Joe Black

    @joe_black1509

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    Paid over the length of his contract. With probably a million up front. Which is urgent cash flow for

    @CelticFC

    Who have no revenue stream right now...

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    Blabbermouth

    @Blabber08756401

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    Replying to @joe_black1509 and @CelticFC

    German media report rising to to 10m Euro which includes his 4 year contract of 1m Euro per year. The fee is 6m Euro which is £5.3m of which celtic will receive £3.7m

    them

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    1 hour ago, AljayBoy said:

    Aye you're right mate, probably one of those new fangled facsimile machines getting used these days :angrywillie:

    You're probably right. It certainly wouldn't be by email after what happened with the SPFL/SFA -  Dundee correspondence.

    them

    in General Football & Sport

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    3 minutes ago, CooperSF said:

    He bottled it.

     

    3 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

    Said the use of the word 'jolly' wasn't taken the way he meant it, said how much he enjoyed his time at the taigs etc etc.

    Basically as close to saying sorry as you could get without actually saying it 

    Thx.:thumbsup:

    FARE

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    You know, this whole thing stinks. Has anyone actually seen a copy of the correspondence from UEFA? Remember the infamous letter that Minty was waving about, which no one ever read, when he was trying to clean up the song-list?
    Maybe I am being cynical but this just seems like too much of a coincidence coming on the heels of the 'Everyone, Anyone' initiative.
    That post back on page 2 from WATP-FOREVER, is quite telling in the way the CDB dealt with the charges then. We may have been charged under a different part of UEFA's laws but why has the thinking changed, and why has this change of heart been accepted by the board?
    Is Lawwell the SFA's only representative at UEFA or can other clubs have a representative appointed to a board(s). Even if another representative can't change what is going on, it would be helpful to know what is being planned.
    Albeit the club may wish to build bridges but not at the expense of the fans' trust.

    Request for footage from 1969-1970 season

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    1 hour ago, The Widow's Son said:

    I'm looking for footage of a game at Ibrox from around October, 1969.  If memory serves, it was the last game for Norrie Martin and Brian Heron.  It's beyond the reach of my cable tow and if any bear could help me, I'd be grateful.

    I couldn't find any footage, sorry, but I found this article which may add context for your project.

    https://www.scotsman.com/sport/hibee-history-Rangers-1-3-hibs-october-11-1969-1-1309927

    Hibee History: Rangers 1-3 Hibs, October 11 1969
    Published: 11:12
    Friday 08 October 2010
    Updated: 12:50
    Saturday 09 October 2010

    Hibs manager Willie Macfarlane talked his team into a supremely confident mood before the game at Ibrox and his talented players proved him right by outplaying Rangers in front of 54,000 witnesses who could testify as to why Hibs were ahead in the title race at that time.
    And the Hibs boss said afterwards: "I kept hammering home to them that we had the better team and our display confirmed it.

    "It was clear, too, that Rangers were worried about us when they introduced a new boy at left-back. Our number changes were designed to throw them off balance.

    "We had no set plan to use Peter Marinello through the middle where he scored his goals. It just happened that in the constant switching, he was in the centre at the right times."

    Hibs collected a cheque for more than 6,000 and the success story at the time - seven wins on the trot - meant that the Easter Road players ranked among the most highly paid in the country.

    That ought to have been incentive enough for them to stay in the driving seat. They' had won at celtic Park, Tynecastle and Ibrox in their last three away games. And very few sides would manage six points from those fixtures.

    The "old" Hibs might have been ruffled by the loss of an unlucky goal five minutes before half-time when John Blackley was penalised wrongly for a perfect tackle on Willie Johnston, who dived and won a foul that produced his own goal.

    But Marinello, who had scored in 16 minutes from a Hamilton pass, added No.?2 just three minutes after the equaliser and Joe McBride grabbed an opportunist goal in 71 minutes.

    It was a triumph for teamwork, running power and skill against a ragged Rangers outfit. They could not match the composure of their rivals and Jim Baxter, while he seldom made a bad pass, slowed the game so much that it was stop-go football throughout from Rangers. Willie Henderson threatened to create trouble on the right, but sound covering snuffed him out and Johnston was the forward most likely to trouble Hibs. However, right-back Chris Shevlane played exceptionally well to subdue the sharp Fifer.

    On reflection, the Easter Road defence never allowed Rangers to create a clear-cut chance and Gordon Marshall had no difficult saves.

    Hibs' interchanging style forced Rangers to leave gaps and the margin might have been more substantial but for the resourceful covering of John Greig. Even he deserted his post at times in a bid to infuse some drive into the home attack.

    Three players were booked - Pat Stanton (Hibs), Baxter and Johnston (Rangers), and the Ibrox wing-half might have been lucky to escape with a booking since Hamilton received a kick on the head when they clashed.

    Stanton, incidentally was not fined by Hibs. That rule applied only in the case of retaliation or talking out of turn. 

    Troubled Tom

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    Was on the thread earlier and left it feeling a bit disturbed. It showed once again how disparate the views are and why so many threads peter out.
    I read this piece on Facebook and thought that this guy is clued in. I wonder if it would spur a discussion.
    ...

    The guy who wrote this is spot on 💯

    Loyalist. 
    After the events in Londonderry where a flute band paraded with the parachute regiment insignia on the sleeve of there shirts I had to ask myself what has happened to loyalism? What is a loyalist? For it seems everyone calls themselves loyalist but when faced with an issue that calls loyalism into question some seem to throw the loyalist tag away for fear of being drawn into a question. A question most struggle to answer. Fear because media outlets use the loyalist tag in any adverse way and have done so for years in order to tag us with a negative and toxic label. LOYALIST.
    No better way to start a headline than with Loyalist. People then immediately see us negatively.
    Strange label loyalist, because if asked for a meaning most people will give you a different answer. A Protestant a bandsman, Rangers supporters, unionist, Orangemen. Wrap them all up or take them one at a time you get the general meaning. 
    I have considered myself a loyalist all my life. From a strong Protestant background. Strong working ethics, Unionist voter, honest and loyal to friends,comrades and the Queen. always ready to answer the call. To be jailed or to die for what I was taught was worth dying for. Honour.
    I neither see that as negative or divisive. But yet loyalist is now a toxic brand.
    Years ago it was easy to label yourself loyalist because we didn't shirk a fight. Mine and my parents generation born from those who knew war. We grew up joined the band's and then it was easy, the thinkers and talkers went to the loyal orders and institutions and those not so willing to talk, those who would rather just act went to the paramilitaries. The rest well there still the same, you can find them in any club pub hall still fighting the voices in their heads and talking about the ifs and buts of the battle.
    I've never been much of a talker, I leave that to those who can and don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking them but the only criticism I have of them is, yous talk too much and you are too quick to criticise what your afraid to do yourself. Personal opinion of course. But as I said I'm not knocking them because We Need Them. And when I criticise them for talking too much I mean. Once they start they need to know when to stop.
    The same can be said of people like me. Too quick to act and too slow to listen. Sometimes too slow to see the bigger picture. That's why we need them and they need us.
    It's an unfortunate occurrence in loyalism that we can't seem to work this problem out. The speakers are afraid to talk to us incase we ask them to act, and we don't want to listen incase our actions are wrong and they criticise.
    If anyone had the answer to this believe me loyalism wouldn't be losing the battle.
    One thing I do know is this. If common ground is not reached soon then this part of the battle will be over and the war lost.
    20 years ago if you asked me would I live to see the breakup of the union. NO. Now...YES
    20yeara it's took us to mess this up.
    Where did we go wrong with this so called peace time.
    Hard to say but my take on this is, over recent years we have all been betrayed by a government not fit for purpose.
    A weak political structure with poor leadership.
    Blinded by our own greed, need for self advancement, our standing in the eyes of others, self wealth, power, luxuries.
    a fear of jail.... and for most a fear of death.
    During the war in ulster, we were betrayed by Britain, it's government and security services. 
    Led like sheep by liars and touts. Used as cannon fodder for political gain. Countless numbers of innocent lives sacrificed to prolong a conflict that was never going to be won. WHY?
    Britain's secret war was running the show. 
    Time to wake up and find a solution. 
    Now we need to get back to basics and find that one thing worth talking about. That one thing worth fighting about. That one thing worth dying for.
    Scotland, Ulster and England has seen orchestrated protest by nationalists who have teamed up with socialist republicans and far left groups. All who seek one goal the destruction of the union. In Scotland it is now frowned upon to show allegiance to the union, the poppy is now considered a symbol of sectarianism. They hound and troll every FB page and like a.pack of wolves slaughter anyone with any negative opinion towards anything nationalist. Why do you think this is? Why are they so organized and why do they have so much fight and aggression? 
    That's an easy one to answer.
    Divide, confront and conquer. They for the past 20years have structured and educated themselves on how to protest and counter protest. How to play the media and paint the unionist as the aggressive uneducated animal. How to troll in groups.
    Very few of the talkers and thinkers confront these people. Our organizations are fragmented so one people with one voice is not there. The same old power struggle. When others confront them we are the aggressor we are still seen as part of the problem. And because of this all too often we are thrown under the bus because no one voice or organisation is strong enough to stand in support of the ones prepared to confront them. 
    We must learn and learn fast, even when you don't agree with the action taken or the voice being raised we must in the face of negative action support it and stand as one.
    Over the years I have come to realise that we have lost a generation to a lack of understanding towards our British identity,our culture and ultimately our loyalism. We are the last generation of loyalists and we don't know what loyalist means in today's Britain. So how do we expect an educated answer from the youth of today when asked what is a loyalist. 
    We are responsible for this. We became complacent and took our eye off the prize. We were told the war was over and we believed them, when it was only just beginning. Being fought on a different battlefield other than our streets. The nationalist, republican classroom. There prize has always been the same. Separation, a prize for some worth dying for. They educated each other and United in one common goal. 
    Now they have us on the run and make no mistake they are winning.
    The last pro loyalist group to stand with one educated voice was the Regimental Blues. 
    I never stood with the Regimental Blues to my shame. why? because I did not understand there way. Educated dialogue. They weren't like me, they weren't like most of the people who stood with me so for that ignorant reason I chose to let them stand alone. When other loyalist ego's were bruised they moved there stance and the Regimental Blues were bound to fall.
    This must change. The ignorance must stop. The power struggle must end and our ears must be open to debate from within. This group needed us and we needed them. 
    WE FAILED THEM.
    Don't allow the loyalist voice to be silenced, even if you disagree with the action or the opinion show solidarity, if you can't remain silent. 
    The talkers and thinkers must unit and act quickly. The footsoldier are growing old and there's very little behind us with fight in them.

    Makes no difference to me if you disagree with this, we all have opinions. Open the debate now.
    I done this to show I understand where I went wrong and if I can get others to agree or even disagree then maybe we can get another something like Regimental Blues. One we can all stand with in solidarity. If nothing else your thinking.

    A concerned Loyalist. Share this and Start the discussion.

    Arfield

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    Ha Ha Ha

    in General Football & Sport

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    3 hours ago, Creampuff said:

    HMRC can only charge a penalty where they can demonstrate the taxpayer failed to take reasonable care to get their tax affairs correct. That becomes very difficult when the taxpayer can say “I hired a professional adviser and done what they told me”.

    I wonder what Sir DM did before he introduced the staff to EBTs and if he attempted to claim mitigating factors to the judge, and if such were given any weight by the judge?

    **Official Boyne Celebrations Roll Call **

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    1 hour ago, kplfishtank said:

    That rule has changed. There is nothing stopping anyone from walking through a parade anymore except respect for it. Sadly lots of folk have zero respect for the parade. 

    What that woman did was not disrespect, it was a deliberate act of incitement and should be treated as such by the police.
    I don't know if I can accept the fact that the by-law has been changed, unless you can post a link to it. If the GCC is willing to allow such a practice then why bother having police steward the parade?
    The marshalls have no special powers to deal with the public they are there to ensure there is integrity and decorum from the bands and the lodges.
    That woman could have had a knife or acid - as examples - and could have had intent to injure. Are the police not there to protect the band members and lodge members? Why do they walk besides the bands and lodges if not to extend protection and maintain order?
    If Susan Aitken can use the argument that the Loyal Orders should accept responsibility for a following member of the public and use that incident as a tool to re-route the Orders, then what is the flip side of that argument.
    I agree that it all comes down to respecting each other, however, respect is earned and is a two-way street. The band members did not break ranks to deliberately attack the public. They should, however, expect protection from a rampaging public.
    p.s The young bandmember should not have reacted in the way he did.

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