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The "I've been alive longer than you so I'm a bigger fan" brigade are brutal.

No this is everything that is wrong at Ibrox. What makes you think you are anymore of a fan than the UB lads? Im pretty sure they are all Rangers fans too!
You have RENTED a seat for over 30 years. You never invested nothing, you gave Rangers 5k. 
The group has looked at various issues on costs and would be willing to compensate other fans that were to relocate as well as various ways of fundraising. "Us season ticket holders" again what makes you different from the 500 or so in the UB section that also have season tickets?
Im a bigger fan than you patter at its worst.

That was just embarrassing, humbling and a complete reality check. That was nothing to do with energy or desire - the quality just isn't there.  Getting rid of McKay was absolutely criminal when we have such a lack of creativity in the final third.  Don't really know where we go from here this season.  We have effectively given Celtic a 5 point head start and will be in another battle for 2nd.

That was just embarrassing, humbling and a complete reality check. That was nothing to do with energy or desire - the quality just isn't there.  Getting rid of McKay was absolutely criminal when we have such a lack of creativity in the final third.  Don't really know where we go from here this season.  We have effectively given Celtic a 5 point head start and will be in another battle for 2nd.

That was just embarrassing, humbling and a complete reality check. That was nothing to do with energy or desire - the quality just isn't there.  Getting rid of McKay was absolutely criminal when we have such a lack of creativity in the final third.  Don't really know where we go from here this season.  We have effectively given Celtic a 5 point head start and will be in another battle for 2nd.

That was just embarrassing, humbling and a complete reality check. That was nothing to do with energy or desire - the quality just isn't there.  Getting rid of McKay was absolutely criminal when we have such a lack of creativity in the final third.  Don't really know where we go from here this season.  We have effectively given Celtic a 5 point head start and will be in another battle for 2nd.

He was really unlucky not to make it 2-2. I actually thought he screwed the nut at H/T and used his aggression in the right way. He better start next week, Herrera looks totally pish to me.

Agreed, it's a matter of time, that was a one off result that was won by the referee, on another day Rangers would've won it. I'm a very positive minded person and Morelos 3 goals in 2 games, he looks fantastic. I'm also very pleased as I've mentioned seeing Peña, he does look the box to box player we need, he even slid in for a challenge at the back to save us and was fighting for the ball, as well as nearly breaking through on goal. I'm excited to see this boy.

Hopefully this is the start of seeing Peña bred into the team. I try and look at these positives simply because let's face it, I could sit and put my head down but what is done is done now, we need to rally forward now and prove that this was a one off result because of that referee. However I do believe Rangers need to take that referee to town, get official complaint put in against him because there's no question, it was blatant cheating.

Hell I even look at the fact we scored a goal down to 10 men as a positive, Rangers have shown they're capable of scoring and had that been 1-1 and we had Jack on the field, I've no doubt in my mind we would've won it.

My thoughts are all over the place tbh, fucking fuming. I think we would have rallied and won that 11 vs 11 as others have said, but it's still not good enough. Haven't seen the incident, but Jack shouldn't even have given Beaton the chance - Dorrans should have a look at himself as well, no need to instigate the entire flashpoint by reacting to a bog standard foul in the way he did. 
We should have got ourselves 2 in front, and failed again. Then came the 10 minute meltdown we've had in varying degrees in every game for about 2 years - this week we lost 2 goals and got a man sent off. It's just not good enough. Players can't be in battle mode the same as fans, first 10 minutes fair enough. After that settle down and control and manage the game. We failed to do that. 
Tactically i think, as i feared before, we let them in due to giving them a numbers advantage in midfield. 442 won't cut it against them, Aberdeen or Celtic. It's too basic. Basic, simple tactics - 442, high tempo and combination passing - combined with having better players is the bread and butter and will work against the rest of the league, but in big games we're going to be left chasing shadows. 

Sorry but I honestly believe that the ref changed that entire game, had the 11 men been on the park Rangers would have had the 3 points in the bag today I've no doubt in that in my mind, therefore for me personally irrespective of people's opinions about subs and how Rangers played down to 10 men I give credit where due that Hibs played well, the ref gave them that massive advantage. I'm now going to look at that as a 1 off freakish result and hope that we don't see that sort of refereeing for the rest of the campaign. 

It was deplorable to say the least what just happened and now we must look to next weeks game against Hearts and hopefully win with a top performance. That one result for me was won for Hibs because of that cheating, I stand by that.

The second half we are complaining about - they didn't do much going forward and scored a good goal. I am not saying our tactics were perfect but they were far from disastrous. Morelos coming off and Miller staying on was the biggest mistake we made.

Thrown under the bus IMO, a difficult first game, but feel like he started to get into it. Hopefully realises what is expected now

There will be the usual threads starting after a defeat, but although we lost I am not unduly worried by it. I really do believe we have a good team more than capable of challenging. However, I also believe that we are up against it with the refs now, as today proved. An utterly shocking performance by Beaton and I actually think we should make a formal complaint over it. As I said earlier in the thread , it was blatant cheating. Furthermore, when you are a goal and a man down , then the best teams in the world are going to struggle, so hopefully all the folk complaining about the performance should take heed of this. A lot are complaining about the long ball tactics- which none like to see- but tbh, I think it's a good tactic when you are a man down as it negates the extra man. And let's face it, we nearly snatched a draw. Games change on refereeing decisions, and today was a perfect example. Yesterday too, when Thistle had a clear penalty not given at the death.  Onwards and upwards, absolutely no need to start panicking over a game we were cheated out of.

He was really unlucky not to make it 2-2. I actually thought he screwed the nut at H/T and used his aggression in the right way. He better start next week, Herrera looks totally pish to me.

The referee was hell bent on sending Morelos off. He showed a lot today,and looks a good player,lot of spirit and aggression.

What a lot of shit that was. I'm finding it hard to criticise the team or manager too much even though plenty will jump on that wagon. Our response tactically was a bit shit. Particularly taking Morelos off, we should have left him on and taken Miller off because he was up for it and nearly scored just before it. Their 3rd was a good hit and everything that could have went wrong went wrong. 
Overall the ref just totally fucked that game. At least we showed some spirit and pulled a goal back and never completely capitulated. I was really impressed by Morelos today, felt a bit sorry for Pena being thrown on into that shit show for his competitive debut. 
That ref is a complete cunt. Loads will slate Pedro for today but we were solidly in a good game of football up until a ridiculous red. Stokes should have been off as well.
Jack shouldn't have been sent off but he does need to drop the hard man act because off the pitch he's nothing like it. He was doing the same head to head shite with Garner last year.
All we can do is bounce back next week and hope the ref isn't a cunt, we have dropped points at this stage plenty of times before. I hope Morelos starts every week now.

Away you go  with your pish..Stokes raised his hands and should have walked then there was all the late late tackles going unpunished? The ref lost the plot and lost control of the game pure and simple.
Rangers should put an official complaint in as since the tarriers forced them to strike they have never gave us a thing..

One of those strikers was playing in midfield, did that help us keep or win the ball?
How fucking dare Pedro put 3 strikers on in a game we're losing, honestly ffs
 

Today was unfortunate not embarrassing, in my book. 

What a lot of shit that was. I'm finding it hard to criticise the team or manager too much even though plenty will jump on that wagon. Our response tactically was a bit shit. Particularly taking Morelos off, we should have left him on and taken Miller off because he was up for it and nearly scored just before it. Their 3rd was a good hit and everything that could have went wrong went wrong. 
Overall the ref just totally fucked that game. At least we showed some spirit and pulled a goal back and never completely capitulated. I was really impressed by Morelos today, felt a bit sorry for Pena being thrown on into that shit show for his competitive debut. 
That ref is a complete cunt. Loads will slate Pedro for today but we were solidly in a good game of football up until a ridiculous red. Stokes should have been off as well.
Jack shouldn't have been sent off but he does need to drop the hard man act because off the pitch he's nothing like it. He was doing the same head to head shite with Garner last year.
All we can do is bounce back next week and hope the ref isn't a cunt, we have dropped points at this stage plenty of times before. I hope Morelos starts every week now.

I've got no doubts an 11 man rangers would have created and buried more than enough opportunities and took that game. Sickened by the ref and glad to see Bruno etc getting into the refs face at the end

Truth. Someone else said it here as well, but think back on that 10 man win v. the Scum in the rain with Coisty netting the winner. That team knew what it meant and what it took to put provo-supporting filth in their proper place.

Going 3 at the back was his plan b,   If it worked or not is irrelevant in this context.

Ref ruined what would have been a good game. With 10 men and down 2-1 it was always going to be a difficult hour. Feel shite but I'll put it down to poor refereeing rather than the team or manager this time.  

I have to remain positive otherwise I'll be lying there in tears from how sore that is to take. Carlos Peña I'm personally pleased with how little I saw of him and looks promising, he's still to get match fitness but that'll help him and he looks the type of player to tackle and does look like he has something to him. Unfortunately because of that sending off, had there not been a sending off we would've won that. Morelos looks superb, can't wait to see more of the wee man and Peña hopefully starts playing.

Disgusting result, 3 points behind Celtic now but I'm going to remain positive, this was a diabolical game because of the ref and in my opinion irrespective of what people say the ref changed that game.