mccoist355 4 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Yes it was a goal... Clearly a goal - We wuz robbed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB52 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Just back from the game now ... I've still not seen any replay's yet, but i was sitting in row A, at the very end, probably one of the closest people to the linesman in the ground, and thought it was in when i seen it, so, going on first impressions, like the linesman ... Yes, Goal. Did the linesman run back towards the half way line immediately after the incident? Nope he stood still cause the ball went out of play and he had about 4 players round him claiming for it, then the referee came over and spoke to him and then booked Mendes I think it was, and maybe someone else, and this was all about 3 yards from the corner flag ... so no. It's just they said on the radio he did Hmm i might be wrong, but not from what i can remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowall06 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 its a good bit into the net for me. The angle Setanta show it from is about a yard from the line, giving the posts an angle, so the fact you can see the ball (almost all of it when it is stopped the furthest in) past the left hand post means when the you look at it level with the by-line it is a good bit into the net. The linesman is paid to get these decisions right, and even got a pay rise...still he can't! He is looking right along the line, has nothing to stop his view but gets it wrong! And yes he did run up the pitch as if he was giving a goal, the reason Smith came out today and said he was bemused by why he done that. The linesman said it was to keep up with play? Play was dead so why would running up the field be keeping up with play? All and all the linesman got it completely wrong and in the context its just a usual thing this season...If they got decisions right we would have won the league by now (just an example....Beasley's goal...remember the one? he was a good 3 yards on but managed to be offside in the officials eyes ) They need to bring in some technology into the game. How hard can it be to have a camera at each by-line looking across the line.. or in the posts. The forth official does fuck all most of the time, all he has to have is a monitor (i'm sure he already has one) and he can review the decision and if its a goal tell the ref and the goal is given. If this was in play we would have won the league already!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammyfraserrfc 5 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 its a good bit into the net for me. The angle Setanta show it from is about a yard from the line, giving the posts an angle, so the fact you can see the ball (almost all of it when it is stopped the furthest in) past the left hand post means when the you look at it level with the by-line it is a good bit into the net. The linesman is paid to get these decisions right, and even got a pay rise...still he can't! He is looking right along the line, has nothing to stop his view but gets it wrong! And yes he did run up the pitch as if he was giving a goal, the reason Smith came out today and said he was bemused by why he done that. The linesman said it was to keep up with play? Play was dead so why would running up the field be keeping up with play? All and all the linesman got it completely wrong and in the context its just a usual thing this season...If they got decisions right we would have won the league by now (just an example....Beasley's goal...remember the one? he was a good 3 yards on but managed to be offside in the officials eyes ) They need to bring in some technology into the game. How hard can it be to have a camera at each by-line looking across the line.. or in the posts. The forth official does fuck all most of the time, all he has to have is a monitor (i'm sure he already has one) and he can review the decision and if its a goal tell the ref and the goal is given. If this was in play we would have won the league already!!! Officials get most things right and yes they make mistakes.But to say that could cist us the league is wrong. Compare the amount of incorrect decisions officials have made to the amount of incorrect decisions or manager,coaching staff and players have made this season. No, if we lose this league it will be down to them NOT match officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty657 1 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Of course it was a goal. It clearly went over the line and was clearly a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowall06 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 its a good bit into the net for me. The angle Setanta show it from is about a yard from the line, giving the posts an angle, so the fact you can see the ball (almost all of it when it is stopped the furthest in) past the left hand post means when the you look at it level with the by-line it is a good bit into the net. The linesman is paid to get these decisions right, and even got a pay rise...still he can't! He is looking right along the line, has nothing to stop his view but gets it wrong! And yes he did run up the pitch as if he was giving a goal, the reason Smith came out today and said he was bemused by why he done that. The linesman said it was to keep up with play? Play was dead so why would running up the field be keeping up with play? All and all the linesman got it completely wrong and in the context its just a usual thing this season...If they got decisions right we would have won the league by now (just an example....Beasley's goal...remember the one? he was a good 3 yards on but managed to be offside in the officials eyes ) They need to bring in some technology into the game. How hard can it be to have a camera at each by-line looking across the line.. or in the posts. The forth official does fuck all most of the time, all he has to have is a monitor (i'm sure he already has one) and he can review the decision and if its a goal tell the ref and the goal is given. If this was in play we would have won the league already!!! Officials get most things right and yes they make mistakes.But to say that could cist us the league is wrong. Compare the amount of incorrect decisions officials have made to the amount of incorrect decisions or manager,coaching staff and players have made this season. No, if we lose this league it will be down to them NOT match officials. Yes we have fucked up big time at times. But even with these fuck ups we would have 4 more points in the bag if they got these two decisions right. I can accept mistakes, but they have to get the big decisions right! The Beasley one was shocking.. Could you imagine that being a different job and you made a massive fuck up, you'd be sacked, so why should officials not be questioned? There job is to get the big decisions right, yes? So if they ain't getting them right they should be dealt with, like any other job. Instead we are told not to put pressure on them . Down in England they get demoted for bad decisions and have to ref in lower leagues, maybe that needs introduced here to get some consistency and for them to realise they need to get the decisions right Fair enough if it was a one off getting this decision wrong, but it seems to be constantly happening to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammyfraserrfc 5 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 its a good bit into the net for me. The angle Setanta show it from is about a yard from the line, giving the posts an angle, so the fact you can see the ball (almost all of it when it is stopped the furthest in) past the left hand post means when the you look at it level with the by-line it is a good bit into the net. The linesman is paid to get these decisions right, and even got a pay rise...still he can't! He is looking right along the line, has nothing to stop his view but gets it wrong! And yes he did run up the pitch as if he was giving a goal, the reason Smith came out today and said he was bemused by why he done that. The linesman said it was to keep up with play? Play was dead so why would running up the field be keeping up with play? All and all the linesman got it completely wrong and in the context its just a usual thing this season...If they got decisions right we would have won the league by now (just an example....Beasley's goal...remember the one? he was a good 3 yards on but managed to be offside in the officials eyes ) They need to bring in some technology into the game. How hard can it be to have a camera at each by-line looking across the line.. or in the posts. The forth official does fuck all most of the time, all he has to have is a monitor (i'm sure he already has one) and he can review the decision and if its a goal tell the ref and the goal is given. If this was in play we would have won the league already!!! Officials get most things right and yes they make mistakes.But to say that could cist us the league is wrong. Compare the amount of incorrect decisions officials have made to the amount of incorrect decisions or manager,coaching staff and players have made this season. No, if we lose this league it will be down to them NOT match officials. Yes we have fucked up big time at times. But even with these fuck ups we would have 4 more points in the bag if they got these two decisions right. I can accept mistakes, but they have to get the big decisions right! The Beasley one was shocking.. Could you imagine that being a different job and you made a massive fuck up, you'd be sacked, so why should officials not be questioned? There job is to get the big decisions right, yes? So if they ain't getting them right they should be dealt with, like any other job. Instead we are told not to put pressure on them . Down in England they get demoted for bad decisions and have to ref in lower leagues, maybe that needs introduced here to get some consistency and for them to realise they need to get the decisions right Fair enough if it was a one off getting this decision wrong, but it seems to be constantly happening to us. I agree that they should be demoted or given less high profile matches as result of their poor performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flecky1 4 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 it was an obvious goal cant believe the ref is getting away with this. who was the ref? lol exactly! his cheque from liewell will be in the post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehealer 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Not from where I was sitting, anyway if Smith had told the players to play the whole game the way we played the second half then it wouldn't have mattered, we would have wiped the floor with a very poor Hibs team, fear we've blown it big style, Smith MUST GO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Cant believe the amount of tims on this board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootSpeedKillLight 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I find the amount of people saying it shouldn't have mattered strange. It did matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The camera angle wasn't good enough to show whether it was or not and the linesman was in the perfect position. If you can't see clear air between the ball and line then you can't give it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 it was an obvious goal cant believe the ref is getting away with this. who was the ref? lol exactly! his cheque from liewell will be in the post! Christ, thought a post from KDS had landed here. The linesman was the guy who never signalled goal, he was in the perfect position. How the hell can the ref tell well infield? The amount of self delusion over this is worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOLUWDC 1 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Clear goal, the picture shows that. The Rangers website says the linesman ran towards the half way line after it. But having apparently turned to run for the halfway line, linesman Martin Cryans did not flag to give a goal after Ross Chisholm hooked away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOLUWDC 1 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Why don't Setanta have camera's on the goal line ? they had them at Ibrox on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2212 151 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 that was a fcucking goal you fucking cheating bastards Here is my answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 didn't see it but yeah, defo a goal It's a Fife thing! lol i guess my attempt at sarcasm sounded better in my head than on the internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2212 151 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 if you vote NO book an appointment before you knock some poor c*nt doon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I find it hard to understand how people wont believe our own players who were involved in the incident, and have said it was a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnclosureBear 2,970 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Imo, it was a goal, the camera isn't actually on the line, and you can see the ball in the net, but if I could see the ball at the right hand side of the post, which I can't, then the linesman would have been right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It was over the fucking line!!! Am i going to dwell on it.... NO, we have a title still to win Whatever happens don't fall into the excuses trap FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 490 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Yes it was a goal... Clearly a goal - We wuz robbed Again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,513 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It was over the fucking line!!! Am i going to dwell on it.... NO, we have a title still to win Whatever happens don't fall into the excuses trap FFS Totally, leave the conspiracy greetin to the ambulance chasers across the city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I thought it was in. These decisions are so close that they're essentially a coin toss though: linesmen don't have superhuman powers of sight and that's what would have been needed to decisively tell whether it was over the line in that split second. If we're going to end up moaning about a decision that cost us the league then it's definitely not this one - try the one at Pittodrie earlier this season which was a clear and obvious mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleod1873 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 No one can say. The TV evidence is completely inconclusive. And to be fair to the lino, he was perfectly positioned. No Goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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