*Manticore* 1,893 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 we could get some indian children to make the flags in a sweatshop.i'm sorry, i didn't quite realise it was a specific celebration of the union. i thought the idea was for a bit of atmosphere. having voted nationalist all my voting life, you'll excuse me if i sit this one out.Of course.The rest of us will be celebrating your freedom to do so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dado 334 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 we could get some indian children to make the flags in a sweatshop.i'm sorry, i didn't quite realise it was a specific celebration of the union. i thought the idea was for a bit of atmosphere. having voted nationalist all my voting life, you'll excuse me if i sit this one out.Of course.The rest of us will be celebrating your freedom to do so You should just put that in your sig it will save you having to repeat it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 we could get some indian children to make the flags in a sweatshop.i'm sorry, i didn't quite realise it was a specific celebration of the union. i thought the idea was for a bit of atmosphere. having voted nationalist all my voting life, you'll excuse me if i sit this one out.you can always sit and watch braveheart while this display is going on. :pipeguy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest orangpendek Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 i'm proud to say i have never seen it. did you hear frankie boyle's line about mel gibson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 i'm proud to say i have never seen it. did you hear frankie boyle's line about mel gibson? no could you post it please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Ye can take away oor kultz!But ye'll no get oor SPORRANSSSSSSSS!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest orangpendek Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 frankie boyle on mock the week:people said mel gibson could never play a scotsman...now look at him - a drunken bigot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Ye can take away oor kultz!But ye'll no get oor SPORRANSSSSSSSS!!!!you can take our freedom but you will never take away our chip pans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Is there any need tae make fun of scottish people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Is there any need tae make fun of scottish people? im scottish myself but ican still laugh. (harhar) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Is there any need tae make fun of scottish people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali.f 0 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 lurkland calling..... Why fly Union Jack, why the hell not it is the flag of the union which the last time I looked Scotland was a part of? What the hell is wrong with being Scottish/Brittish anymore - thousands of our countrymen and women have died serving the flag and the traditions it upholds so yes bears be proud to be scottish and british unlike some other clubs who would rather be in a foreign land and fly foreign flags. Also the last time I looked our colours were red, white and blue which coincidently are the colours of the union flag - now we wouldn't want to be flying a french(!!) Tri colore (!!!!!) now would we - at least not anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Using a simple flag display for individuals 'political aims'... I've heard it all now! I'd love to hear what these conspiracy theorists think SDM said when TBO went to the club to ask about the display? Of course, the fact that FF and the RST only backed the exciting display in the same way as every person/group who contributed to it (including RFC, TBO, CDL and the RSA) wouldn't fit their outlandish claims.Tomorrow night is all about improving the atmosphere and generating excitement during a time when many Rangers fans would prefer to sit on their hands and moan about others who are trying to improve things. Now, not everyone will be the biggest Unionist and not everyone will be the biggest Scottish patriot but we are ALL Rangers fans.That should be enough for us all to use the display to fly our red, white and blue colours with pride and with unity. Not use it as an excuse to further divide a support which seems hell bent on slagging off their fellow fans rather than concentrate on backing the team during one of the most important periods in our history.As we limp towards another trophyless season and battle 3 other teams for a 2nd place that we cannot afford to miss out on I think there are more important things to concentrate all our efforts on.That goes for all of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 lurkland calling..... Why fly Union Jack, why the hell not it is the flag of the union which the last time I looked Scotland was a part of? What the hell is wrong with being Scottish/Brittish anymore - thousands of our countrymen and women have died serving the flag and the traditions it upholds so yes bears be proud to be scottish and british unlike some other clubs who would rather be in a foreign land and fly foreign flags. Also the last time I looked our colours were red, white and blue which coincidently are the colours of the union flag - now we wouldn't want to be flying a french(!!) Tri colore (!!!!!) now would we - at least not anymoreOnce more.... with grammar please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 as lee marvin sang i was born under a union jack. <_< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftyger 0 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 On Follow Follow, they made a specific link between the display and celebrating the Act of Union. And to be honest in Scotland at present the Act of Union is a political issue. In reality, a small group of people are trying to hijack a Rangers European game to further their own political ends.You really should try to inform yourself properly, it would stop you spouting such embarrassing nonsense.In fact this has come about because a number of Rangers fans felt it would be appropriate to mark the 300th Anniversary of The Act of Union at Ibrox.It was discussed at length on FF, what best to do and when (it was as likely to have been the Falkirk game as Hapoel, but there was consensus that it would be better to do it at a higher profile match). TBO approached the Club who agreed and I believe they contributed half the costThere's a sticky on FF with a Paypal link and over �3,500 has been raised.In reality nobody is hijacking anything, the aim from Day 1 has been to celebrate the Act of Union.Unless you are saying we wouldn't be having a display before a big European game if it wasn't for celebrating the Act of Union, you have proved my point.A Rangers game - chosen because of its high profile - is being used to mark the anniversary of the Act of Union, I noticed that you didn't deny it is a political issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 leftyger:You didn't answer my point above. Do you think SDM would allow such a political gesture to be made at Ibrox? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Unless you are saying we wouldn't be having a display before a big European game if it wasn't for celebrating the Act of Union, you have proved my point.A Rangers game - chosen because of its high profile - is being used to mark the anniversary of the Act of Union, I noticed that you didn't deny it is a political issue.1. We wouldn't have had a display tonight otherwise, dunno what point you think I have proven, i'm not making a point, just correcting you with the facts.2. Why would I deny that it's a political issue? What is your point? As Basil said 'Specialist subject - the bleedin' obvious'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Still no answer, leftyger?It's strange how some people make the most offensive of claims about individuals without the evidence to back it up.The fact is, if this display was meant as some sort of political gesture Sir David Murray would not have personally sanctioned it. Yes, the Union flags were there for some to celebrate the Acxt of Union, yes the Saltires were there for some to celebrate our Scottish identity, yes, all the flags were there for ALL to improve the atmosphere ahead of an important game.Did it work? You're goddamn right it did! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest orangpendek Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 i posted about how i was uncomfortable with a celebration of the union, being a nat and all. well, fair do's, the atmosphere was superb. the last time i saw anythnig like that was when we beat england 1-0 in 85. and my other personal gripe, that the coverage would re-inforce the stereotype that all rangers fans are unionists, has proven unfounded. so well done all concerned.this is maybe getting a bit carried away with the idea, but how about copying what teams do with shirts when they add the occassion under the badge? it wouldn't cost much to add some lettering eg 'rangers v hapoel' on one side and '22/2/07 uefa cup' on the other. nerds could even collect them. i just don't want to go back to the library atmosphere, we have to try something to keep up the noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wertp72 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thanks for all the input regarding the origional point.It was interesting to note the different views. I was not against the display as some origionally thought and jumped the gun.But it turned out to be a bit a bit of a dissappointment as a spectacle. Flags were way too small. I do not believe it helped create the atmosphere on the night. That was purely down to the players having the right attitudeon the field which gave the fans something to cheer about.It amazes me though how we all have different views on things but not afraid of saying so. Unlike the mhanky mob who tend to go with the flow in fear of being an outcast and will agree to anything put forward. They need to be loved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albahighlander 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thanks for all the input regarding the origional point.It was interesting to note the different views. I was not against the display as some origionally thought and jumped the gun.But it turned out to be a bit a bit of a dissappointment as a spectacle. Flags were way too small. I do not believe it helped create the atmosphere on the night. That was purely down to the players having the right attitudeon the field which gave the fans something to cheer about.It amazes me though how we all have different views on things but not afraid of saying so. Unlike the mhanky mob who tend to go with the flow in fear of being an outcast and will agree to anything put forward. They need to be loved I was possibly one of the first into the stadium and thought the flags looked patheticHowever, when the teams came out it was fantastic and created a great atmospherewhen the sun praises the display as creating an intimidating atmosphere and being very special then you know it has worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Bigger flags were meant to be used but RFC (along with the supplier) made an arse of ordering them apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Who cares about the size of the flags.....all who saw it described it as magnificent.The size of the flags is not important.....the message which was sent out was huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 No doubt about it.As I said above, the display had the desired effect and should be seen positively by every Rangers fan. Many ordinary bears worked very hard to organise this and hundreds also contributed financially.Can't wait for the next one. My money and time is ready to be used again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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