G.Linton 107 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Toure is a great player, but Guardiola would rather have Busquets. The role Busquets plays for both Barca and Spain is hugely underappreciated. I didn't really see the fuss until I actually watced him on the park. There's plenty of reasons Barca and Spain do so well and the role Busquets plays is a huge one.the statment in bold ...could not agree with you more think he is a fantastic player and still very very young! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRfc 20 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 BusquestsMascheranoBarryAndersonGlen JohnsonJamie CarragherEduardoKalouFletcherJohn TerrySergio RamosI could literally go on all day.Folk will probably think the same about who i've said but I can't believe some of the players that have been mentioned in this thread (Yaya Toure, Bale). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,413 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Sergio Ramos is a good shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo 1,455 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Can't believe Van Persie is being mentioned here Unsure if he qualifies as a 'top' player but how about Lescott? Utter ding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klos 39 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 For the people naming Messi, I really hope they misunderstood the question and thought it was top players who are over-hyped! In that respect I'd agree, he isn't as good as a lot would have you believe(i.e the greatest player of all-time) but is still one of the best in the world just now if not the best.Most of the "top" players I dont rate play in the EPL and are only classed as top players because the whole league is believed to be better than it actually is in this country.Berbatov (not that I dont actually rate him when on form, just he only ever seems to show about 20% of his potential over the course of a season)MascheranoBarryCarrickMilnerGerrard(been found out a bit now that Alonso has left)John Carew (though a bit of stretch to call him a top player, but gets onto the list for being especially dire)WalcottGlen JohnsonRosickyCould go on all day, but getting bored now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'm adding Maxi Rodriguez to my list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappa 24 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Carlos Tevez. I do rate him but not as a top player the way some do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Mario Gomez - can't stick him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Mario Gomez - can't stick him at all.Mentioned him earlier.Good player at Stuttgart and then he joined Bayern, grew his hair long like a fairy and became shit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrfc1873 48 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Kaka is one I forgot to mention, every time I've turned on the telly to watch him play I've been disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 4,265 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Dani Alves - can't shoot or cross. just hits the ball very hard and hopes for the best. tackling is pretty woeful and his positional play is amateurish at times. Glen Johnson - anyone ever seen him play a good match? worse than Alves..a lot worse. Bojan Krkic - for a boy who is supposedly only good at finishing, he isn't even very good at that. I could go on, but there's too many to count! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan72 12 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 How are people mentioning Bale Toure and Busquets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappa 24 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Starting to agree with Dani Alves. I used to be 50/50 on him but his performance at the weekend was diabolical and it isn't the first time we can say that either. I think it's quite harsh on Bojan. If you took him out of the Barca side and into another team who play a traditional 4-4-2 and don't demand incredible football, he'd probably bag you 25 goals a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Van Persie has great technique but as an all round player I dont like him at all, I think teams find him very easy to deal withAs for Tevez, like I Cappa i think hes good but not a top class player. I dont think he should have played over Milito or Higuain at the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klos 39 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Starting to agree with Dani Alves. I used to be 50/50 on him but his performance at the weekend was diabolical and it isn't the first time we can say that either. I think it's quite harsh on Bojan. If you took him out of the Barca side and into another team who play a traditional 4-4-2 and don't demand incredible football, he'd probably bag you 25 goals a season.Thats actually a good point, there are good players that have a style that doesn't work with certain teams formation/tactics/mentality/etc. Look at Diego Forlan, most of us would have probably thought he was a bit of a donkey, average at best during his time at Manchester United. Since leaving, he's shown he can play a bit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,992 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Glen JohnsonShaun Wright-PhillipsSidney GovouMauro CamoranesiMassimo AmbroseniAndres PalopTheo WalcottBenoit Assou-EkottoJavier MascheranoGilberto SilvaThere's probably more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,413 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Does anybody else think that Pep Guariola isn't very good when it comes to the cheque book?The majority of his big buys have all had pretty limited success: Alves, Keita, Kerrison, Ibrahimovic, Chgrinsky & even Villa (I know it's early days) to name a few.However when you look at the progress of guys he inherited: Valdes, Pique, Busquets, Messi, Pedro & even Iniesta & Xavi then maybe he's going to be a manager who is simply better at developing the skills a player already has on his books rather than identifying new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Van Persie has great technique but as an all round player I dont like him at all, I think teams find him very easy to deal withAs for Tevez, like I Cappa i think hes good but not a top class player. I dont think he should have played over Milito or Higuain at the world cup.Van persie with fitness behind him is an utter nightmare mate. Just ask Arsenal fans. If he was fit against Chelsea, i don't think Chelsea would of won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,992 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I thought Alves came before Guardiola? Regardless, I have to say I agree. He is fantastic at taking raw talent and nurturing it, but he doesn't really seem to be getting it right in the transfer market.No, Pep signed him. I think he's been good for them though. He's done his job by bombing up and down that right wing and last season he got 15 assists in all competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdunsmb 43 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Some cringeworthy names being mentioned - Iniesta, Kaka and I'd say Ryan Giggs is possibly the worst! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdunsmb 43 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Does anybody else think that Pep Guariola isn't very good when it comes to the cheque book?The majority of his big buys have all had pretty limited success: Alves, Keita, Kerrison, Ibrahimovic, Chgrinsky & even Villa (I know it's early days) to name a few.However when you look at the progress of guys he inherited: Valdes, Pique, Busquets, Messi, Pedro & even Iniesta & Xavi then maybe he's going to be a manager who is simply better at developing the skills a player already has on his books rather than identifying new players.I was stunned by the Eto'o swap deal. What was it? Direct swap plus 40m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sasac 164 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I was stunned by the Eto'o swap deal. What was it? Direct swap plus 40m?Yup, there was talk of Hleb going as well on loan. Crazy deal.Would Denilson class as a top player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Some cringeworthy names being mentioned - Iniesta, Kaka and I'd say Ryan Giggs is possibly the worst! Again good player but one thats been totally blown out of proportion with his decent form at the age he currently is. Not a patch on Scholes or Beckham imo.Then again there was that goal against Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdunsmb 43 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Again good player but one thats been totally blown out of proportion with his decent form at the age he currently is. Not a patch on Scholes or Beckham imo.Then again there was that goal against Arsenal Disagree. He was the best winger in the world for about 5-6 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Disagree. He was the best winger in the world for about 5-6 years.Ok mate Ill change it, ill say for the past 5-6 years he has been over-rated as the English media still treat him like a top player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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