delamonty 992 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 ok, John Fleck only had one half. But in that 45 mins, he put more thought into his passes & crosses than Vladimir has done all year.I wish we could create one footballer out of both. For me? What Weiss is clearly lacking is the final ball. And lately, he's not even getting close to getting to the byeline, or even in a position to deliver.When he is, it's usually a poor ball.Flecky today showed he has a real chance to start ahead of Weiss. Happy for Fleck. In fact, having to compete with Weiss is good for him.If Fleck plays to his potential, we don't need Vladimir Weiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandyIniesta-Nordahl Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I'd love Fleck to get a shot through the middle, just off the strikers.Won't happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 This is idiotic.Fleck was good because he came inside all the time.Weiss or Fleck on the left ? Weiss everytime.Flecks final ball was pish today but he was good because he kept coming inside.Through the middle is were Fleck should play not on the left because he rarely beats a man and puts a cross in.Stupid comparison IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fleck through the middle, Wiess on the right for me.Cant choose one over the other as they play different positions.Neither should be anywhere near the left hand side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 But in that 45 mins, he put more thought into his passes & crosses than Vladimir has done all year.Slight exaggeration.Neither Fleck nor Weiss should be playing on the left! Weiss needs to learn to stop all this fancy shit and keep it simple at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,563 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Weiss tries to be too fancy and often loses possesion Fleck should play in his natural position up front or at least down the middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Neither impressed me today, Fleck's touch at times was terrible.Both players are too greedy and try to be the hero.Eh? lol Fleck hasnt kicked a ball for months, hasnt kicked a competitive ball for even longer! I thought he done very well when he moved to the right and centre. For all his power, pace and great shooting ability, he lacks one on one skill, he cant beat a man with skill, i think thats why he struggles at left wing. Give him time ffs, he will a cracking player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fleck vs Weiss????Would that be because they are similar players that deserve to be compared to each other?This thread only highlights the lack of knowledge in our players from the experts of the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fleck vs Weiss????Would that be because they are similar players that deserve to be compared to each other?This thread only highlights the lack of knowledge in our players from the experts of the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavieMacRFC 850 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I am one of Fleck's biggest critics, although he is only young he was billed as a hot prospect and has so far failed to live up to this but i thought he played well when he came on today and he covered when he was shoved back at corners, hopefully he has taken into account that we are playing great as a team and he will need to put in extra work to earn a starting place in the 1st team but he still has a lot to learn and can hopefully fulfill this !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fleck simply isn't a winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fair comments....My point isn't that whether Fleck or Weiss 'should' be playing on the left. Under Walter they are. So, in my own defense, I'll say we are comparing 'like for like' in Walter's system.And for me, Fleck simply looked more like the guy that suits us. I also agree with Muff (above) that, Weiss needs to cut out the garbage. But then again, it's pretty clear, he is targeted. But good players rise above that, create space, beat their man, and then put in the telling ball.It's great to be a Bear. A draw and we implode. lol Life is still good folks! Top of the league and undefeated. btw: I'm not being naive and insisting we are world beaters. Not by any stretch. We have enough to win this league and do a turn in Europe after XMAS. We're a hard team to beat. Even on a bad day. And that, is a positive. Great teams get 'something' when they're crap by their own standards. Bring on Valencia! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I'm not a massive Fleck fan and the first 10 mins he was ropey, but he came on to a good game. Another 15 minutes and he might have won us it, on a different day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I'm not a massive Fleck fan and the first 10 mins he was ropey, but he came on to a good game. Another 15 minutes and he might have won us it, on a different day.Based on what?What difference would an extra 15 mins have made?Seriously fucked up logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Based on what?What difference would an extra 15 mins have made?Seriously fucked up logic.Ermm how?I take it you've never heard anyone say, for example, that "if we game lasted 5 more minutes we would have won it" - ala Marseilles 1993. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Ermm how?I take it you've never heard anyone say, for example, that "if we game lasted 5 more minutes we would have won it" - ala Marseilles 1993.Comparing today's game to that of the Marseilles kinda sums you up.Not laughing, honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Comparing today's game to that of the Marseilles kinda sums you up.Not laughing, honest.I wasn't comparing. Simply quoting a figure of speech - you know what they are, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I wasn't comparing. Simply quoting a figure of speech - you know what they are, don't you?You really are representing yourself well tonight.A fucking halfwit if ever I met one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_Rangers 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Based on what?What difference would an extra 15 mins have made?Seriously fucked up logic.Do you just like arguing with fellow bears with a diffrent opinion to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 You really are representing yourself well tonight.A fucking halfwit if ever I met one.Mate, a couple of people have already toldd you your making an arse of yourself. I just respond to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Do you just like arguing with fellow bears with a diffrent opinion to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Do you just like arguing with fellow bears with a diffrent opinion to you?I think that is where you and me might be different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_Rangers 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I think that is where I think you and me might be different.Explain monkey boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Mate, a couple of people have already toldd you your making an arse of yourself. I just respond to you.You and Pete, fuck me, Im off to commit........................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan 9 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Explain monkey boy?You are as much of a Bluenose as the pope.You understand now fuckwit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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