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Barcelona 2/1

Real Madrid 5/1

Chelsea 8/1

Man Utd 8/1

Man City 14/1

Arsenal 16/1

Bayern Munich 20/1

Inter Milan 20/1

AC Milan 25/1

Porto 25/1

Borussia Dortmund 33/1

Valencia 40/1

Lyon 50/1

Benfica 50/1

Bayer Leverkusen 66/1

Lille 66/1

Marseille 66/1

Napoli 66/1

Shakhtar Donetsk 66/1

Villarreal 66/1

Ajax 80/1

Zenit St Petersburg 80/1

CSKA Moscow 100/1

Olympiacos 150/1

Genk 250/1

Trabzonspor 500/1

FC Basel 500/1

SK Sturm Graz 500/1

Dinamo Zagreb 500/1

APOEL 750/1

Viktoria Plzen 750/1

Otelul Galati 1000/1

Not too much value there.

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How the fuck are Man City pot 3? We have surely done better than them over the last 5 years in Europe, and we would probably be pot 4.

They are in England though so they will just get more points than us. The whole points system is a joke.

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I wonder if there has ever been a pot 3 team will as low odds as 14/1?

Definitely not!

How the fuck are Man City pot 3? We have surely done better than them over the last 5 years in Europe, and we would probably be pot 4.

Because they came 3rd in the EPL which has the highest coefficient I would assume?

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For 2013 we are down in 28th place and it will fall unless we have a good run this season.

This is because the 07-08 coefficient points of 10.250 will be removed.

Fuck!!

This CL draw is the toughest I can remember. So gutted we are not there.

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For 2013 we are down in 28th place and it will fall unless we have a good run this season.

This is because the 07-08 coefficient points of 10.250 will be removed.

Isn't it next year 07-08 is removed ?

I thought 07-08/08-09/09-10/10-11/11-12 all make up the co-efficient for 2013 so next year it will be 08-09/09-10/10-11/11-12/12-13 meaning we need to do really well this year.

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Hate all this seeding pish, just put everybody into one big bowl and draw the teams out.

That would shake up the Champions league, after all everybody has earned the right to compete in the same competition.

UEFA can't and won't take that chance. They want the most money they can get and seeding is tw way to do it.

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