Skelf 1,153 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Where the fuck does everyone get it from that he is a winger????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's a managerial failure.Not enough research done before signing them perhaps.I have to question this! These two players play for their countries. Im sure they could heck it in the spl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzalivesforever 2,039 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ortiz has been capped for Spain? First of me knowing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ortiz has been capped for Spain? First of me knowing.Not according to Wiki Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 i honestly do see something in him, good vision and can pick a pass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm not going to lie, I genuinely forgot about him I'm not going to lie, I can't bear watching him play and want him to leave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ortiz has been capped for Spain? First of me knowing.Has he buggery. Perhaps at under 6 level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,853 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Probably has the best first touch in our team aswell. I like him but he just doesnt seem to get a game. People have a go at him for not beating a man but Weiss did that and people had a go at him for not getting the ball in the box, which is the one thing Ortiz tries to do. He got assists early in the season and in pre season and put in a good performance against Liverpool and then just disappeared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersAvA92 53 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ortiz has good technical ability and can a take a ball down to the deck like most Spanish players but he does lack pace. The type of style Ally wants the Gers to play insists on both wide roles to be wingers and take on defences. A defensive RM he is but would do good in RB or CM imo. Don't think he'll stay long though, same thing goes for McKay unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Juan who ? What about a swap with the wee guy that took us to Manchester ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,906 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Juan who ? What about a swap with the wee guy that took us to Manchester ? Walter Smith? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferguson_6 33 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Quite a bizarre signing, I dont go in for judging players after 1 game...but against Hearts on first game of the season I was confused why Ally played him on the left, when he kept trying to check on to his right foot, had no pace at all and looked scared of making a mistake..... I did say punt him this month. BUT if Broadfoot leaves, would keep him...purely for the reason hes supposed to be decent at RB... Reminds me of Capucho a little bit. Saying that, Nuno was played in the correct position lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferguson_6 33 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Walter Smith?Imagine going to Ethel and asking if we could have Walter in a swap for Ortiz Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,811 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He was never a winger, it was foolish to play him out there and waste him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytes3 254 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Swap deal for messi? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's a managerial failure.Not enough research done before signing them perhaps.Depends where they were on the list of players he wanted to signFor what it's worth i think only Ortiz will leave this window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He was never a winger, it was foolish to play him out there and waste him.Where would you have played him ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmytto 220 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Walter Smith?Well played! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think Ortiz would excel in a midfield focused on quick, short, accurate passing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ortiz was a bit of a panic buy perhaps, it was taking us a while to get anyone in before him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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