Having trouble with the unwashed regards our history?

[ace1 49]

Will Rangers lose their history?

For the benefit of those who lack a proper education ie the great unwashed over at the San Giro, this has just been explained to me by a Financial Advisor who has worked in many different industries, including football, in financial takeovers, mergers & liquidations;

Rangers FC was founded 1872.

Rangers PLC was founded in 1899.

Rangers PLC during liquidation is treated as the parent (or holding) company (owner in laymans terms) of Rangers FC (1872)

Rangers PLC (1899) is now being forced to sell Rangers FC (1872) to the highest bidder.

As part of that sale includes the name (intellectual property rights), the company Rangers Football Group (Liberty Capital PLC) owned by Craig Whyte may be forced to find a new name, assuming they in turn are not liquidated due to investigations by BDO.

If no one had bought Rangers FC (1872) then it would of died along with Rangers PLC (1899) in the same way that Airdrieonians died because no one bought it.

Airdrie United are "Clydebank with a spray job." (His words, not mine in case any Airdrie fans are looking). Basically Airdrie Utd used Clydebanks Articles of Association & permits etc to play in the league. Since theyre not Airdrieonians or Clydebank they had to start their own history from scratch, althought if you look at Airdrie Utd's profile on SFA then it does state "Formerly known as Clydebank".

ACF Fiorentina are a good example of one of many clubs to enter administration, liquidate, then return as a newco. They actually ceased to exist for a good few months before they restarted as a whole new company. They played in a different stadium for a while and had different strips. Eventually, they bought the rights to their old strips/crest etc & now use the same as the oldco (Italian laws are different, so this won't happen to Rangers FC (1872) due to Intellectual Property Rights as mentioned before)

AC Fiorentina were liquidated in 2002 and later reformed as ACF Fiorentina a few months after. As stated before, they completely retained their history as can be seen in UEFA's own public records;

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=52817/profile/index.html

At the top right of the page it says AFC Fiorentina's biggest defeat was in 1984. Which was 18 years before AFC Fiorentina were created & actually refers to AC Fiorentina. Had they lost their history this wouldn't be mentioned.

Any questions? No? Good!

[ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895]

Will Rangers lose their history?

For the benefit of those who lack a proper education ie the great unwashed over at the San Giro, this has just been explained to me by a Financial Advisor who has worked in many different industries, including football, in financial takeovers, mergers & liquidations;

Rangers FC was founded 1872.

Rangers PLC was founded in 1899.

Rangers PLC during liquidation is treated as the parent (or holding) company (owner in laymans terms) of Rangers FC (1872)

Rangers PLC (1899) is now being forced to sell Rangers FC (1872) to the highest bidder.

As part of that sale includes the name (intellectual property rights), the company Rangers Football Group (Liberty Capital PLC) owned by Craig Whyte may be forced to find a new name, assuming they in turn are not liquidated due to investigations by BDO.

If no one had bought Rangers FC (1872) then it would of died along with Rangers PLC (1899) in the same way that Airdrieonians died because no one bought it.

Airdrie United are "Clydebank with a spray job." (His words, not mine in case any Airdrie fans are looking). Basically Airdrie Utd used Clydebanks Articles of Association & permits etc to play in the league. Since theyre not Airdrieonians or Clydebank they had to start their own history from scratch, althought if you look at Airdrie Utd's profile on SFA then it does state "Formerly known as Clydebank".

ACF Fiorentina are a good example of one of many clubs to enter administration, liquidate, then return as a newco. They actually ceased to exist for a good few months before they restarted as a whole new company. They played in a different stadium for a while and had different strips. Eventually, they bought the rights to their old strips/crest etc & now use the same as the oldco (Italian laws are different, so this won't happen to Rangers FC (1872) due to Intellectual Property Rights as mentioned before)

AC Fiorentina were liquidated in 2002 and later reformed as ACF Fiorentina a few months after. As stated before, they completely retained their history as can be seen in UEFA's own public records;

http://www.uefa.com/...file/index.html

At the top right of the page it says AFC Fiorentina's biggest defeat was in 1984. Which was 18 years before AFC Fiorentina were created & actually refers to AC Fiorentina. Had they lost their history this wouldn't be mentioned.

Any questions? No? Good!

The same as Celtic in 1994. I was arguing with a taig about that as he said the Rangers formed in 1872 no longer exists.

I replied the Celtic that was formed in 188 no longer exists either.

And he came back the parent company argument.

[offminorthreat 1,467]

Blue Shirts

Ibrox

RFC Crest

Protestant Work Ethic

It is fucking still Rangers. Always will be. End of.

[rayq81 231]

I dont care what the dirty bead rattling soap dodging peado loving cnuts think to be honest

[Mick9005 7]

All explained very well. Cheers. Been constantly correcting the unwashed over this. Even a fair few bears who seem to be listening to their pish!

[theiconicman 3,013]

You can also mention that Hibs became homeless and ceased to exist in 1891 due to mismanagement and had to reform in 1892 and play at a new ground. They still maintain the history of the old club from 1875 to 1891 including the cup win in 1887.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernian_F.C.

Mismanagement over the next few years led to the club becoming homeless and it ceased operating during 1891.[9] A reformed club was established and they acquired a lease on a site in late 1892 that was to become known as Easter Road. Hibernian played its first match at Easter Road on 4 February 1893.[22] Despite this interruption, the club today views the period since 1875 as one continued history and therefore counts the honours won between 1875 and 1891, including the 1887 Scottish Cup.[23][24] The club were admitted to the Scottish Football League in 1893, although they had to win the Second Division twice before being elected into the First Division in 1895.[9]

[DietofWorms 2,067]

I dont care what the dirty bead rattling soap dodging peado loving cnuts think to be honest

[Rfc#1. 1,877]

Facts don't matter to the dhims,only their twisted bigotted viewpoint is all that matters to them. Dafties

[Smile 26,622]

Why do people bother arguing with them its pointless they are Brainwashed from Birth.

[Chef 436]

Maybe pin these things as it's a daily thing this losing accolades and shit. Someone will post one the morro and so on.

[nelsonRFC82 305]

Useful info to have, as much as I tend to agree that I don't care about the filth's opinions, you just know this will get the standard treatment of tell a lie often enough...

Also note the words UEFA use "following bankruptcy. The only player to remain at the club in its new incarnation". Clearly distinguishing the company from the club in terms of it's history!

[MosesMcNeil 1,664]

It's been a while, but I've found that saying: "I don't take lessons on anything from a club that harboured paedophiles" tends to end a conversation.

[Redmond7 1,205]

Honestly why can't the tims worry about their own shitty club. I guess thats what happens when you are dominated for so long.

[rangers_1993 68]

The bitterness is coming out the tims cause they know there forever going to be in our shadows and they'll never get that chip off there shoulders

[elephants stoned 2,994]

We would rather die with our history than live with theirs. Thankfully we dont have to do either

[*Manticore* 1,893]

Don't argue with taigs. If you must deal with them tell them you'd rather have no history than have theirs.

Tax fiddling is nothing compared to kiddy fiddling.

[Marco polo77 0]

Will Rangers lose their history?

For the benefit of those who lack a proper education ie the great unwashed over at the San Giro, this has just been explained to me by a Financial Advisor who has worked in many different industries, including football, in financial takeovers, mergers & liquidations;

Rangers FC was founded 1872.

Rangers PLC was founded in 1899.

Rangers PLC during liquidation is treated as the parent (or holding) company (owner in laymans terms) of Rangers FC (1872)

Rangers PLC (1899) is now being forced to sell Rangers FC (1872) to the highest bidder.

As part of that sale includes the name (intellectual property rights), the company Rangers Football Group (Liberty Capital PLC) owned by Craig Whyte may be forced to find a new name, assuming they in turn are not liquidated due to investigations by BDO.

If no one had bought Rangers FC (1872) then it would of died along with Rangers PLC (1899) in the same way that Airdrieonians died because no one bought it.

Airdrie United are "Clydebank with a spray job." (His words, not mine in case any Airdrie fans are looking). Basically Airdrie Utd used Clydebanks Articles of Association & permits etc to play in the league. Since theyre not Airdrieonians or Clydebank they had to start their own history from scratch, althought if you look at Airdrie Utd's profile on SFA then it does state "Formerly known as Clydebank".

ACF Fiorentina are a good example of one of many clubs to enter administration, liquidate, then return as a newco. They actually ceased to exist for a good few months before they restarted as a whole new company. They played in a different stadium for a while and had different strips. Eventually, they bought the rights to their old strips/crest etc & now use the same as the oldco (Italian laws are different, so this won't happen to Rangers FC (1872) due to Intellectual Property Rights as mentioned before)

AC Fiorentina were liquidated in 2002 and later reformed as ACF Fiorentina a few months after. As stated before, they completely retained their history as can be seen in UEFA's own public records;

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=52817/profile/index.html

At the top right of the page it says AFC Fiorentina's biggest defeat was in 1984. Which was 18 years before AFC Fiorentina were created & actually refers to AC Fiorentina. Had they lost their history this wouldn't be mentioned.

Any questions? No? Good!

[Marco polo77 0]

Cheers ace al b taking that n shoveing it in front of a certain taig cunt in my work cum Monday!

[Smile 26,622]

It's been a while, but I've found that saying: "I don't take lessons on anything from a club that harboured paedophiles" tends to end a conversation.

Yep Youth Development took on a new slant at the KnewCamp.

[Super1872 469]

I really don't understand how people can't clearly distinguish between a CLUB whcih was formed in 1872 and a COMPANY formed in 1899. Yes they are connected but the company and the club are not the same

I don't understand how people can swallow the "club is dead" argument. I would also like to see someone from Rangers come out and take the media to task for their false reporting and scaremongering on this issue over the past few days.

[sprotson11 147]

You expect this "losing history" crap from the bheasts and media. The hard thing to take is how many Rangers fans either swallow it or don't know how to answer back the bheasts.

[Shuggy 1,308]

Excellent, I'll bookmark that one. When I noticed that Rangers(1899) had taken on the trophy record of Rangers(1872) even though it did not exist before 1899, it was obvious this was just another transfer of assets. The important thing was to initiate a seamless transfer between oldco/newco this week.

Shuggy

[eosmhdo 1,879]

The fact that we are trying and going to retain our glorious history is something the taigs don't understand.

The reason for that is that there is quite a lot in their history that they are trying to forget.

A wee message to the tims is this.

We will never let you or anyone else take away our history and to that end.

We will do the same for you and make sure everyone knows about yours.

Fairs fair

[Grumpybear 24]

I don't understand how people can swallow the "club is dead" argument. I would also like to see someone from Rangers come out and take the media to task for their false reporting and scaremongering on this issue over the past few days.

Agree, I'd like the club to beat down this shite soon as.

Alas I fear not soon enough to save me from a weekend in the gaol if I hear it in the pub the night its really getting my goat the brainless fuckwits.

[Claddie 53]

I can still watch them

I can still cheer them

I can still support them

They are still RFC