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Real Madrid v Manchester United


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Hard game to predict

Man for man Real are miles better,

they certainly aren't.

Casilles is injured, and hugely overrated anyway, so tonight Man U are stronger in the GK department.

Rio & Vidic is an established partnership with experience of multiple league wins, a wealth of CL experience including a CL trophy. Carvalho is finished, Pepe is tough but a wildcard. Ramos is overrated and naturally a right back, has been woeful defending set pieces this season. Marcelo is about on a par with Rafeal, perhaps better going forward, but netiehr are outstanding going back. Arbeloa was a Liverpool flop and nothing on Evra.

I was Carricks biggest critic for eyars but over the last year he's really came on to a game, ive been hugely impressed with him. Not in the class of Alonso, but each will influence the game. Di Maria & Ashely Young are probably about on a par, Di Maria is more talented, but blows hot n cold, not to mention spends half the game rolling around the deck giving his best Busquests impression. At least Ashley Young waits until hes in the box :lol:

Ronaldo is a class apart from anyone on the pitch, but RVP & Rooney are better players than the likes of Benzema, Higuain & Ozil.

All in all, i think it's pretty evenly matched, i think Real do have slightly more talent, but their not as robust, nor have had anything near the consistency and form of United this season.

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Greatest game in cl history not involving Rangers? I'd say so

My personal favorite was Real Madrid 3-2 Man U, when Ronaldo scored a hatrick at Old Trafford. Seeing the master score an Old Trafford hatrick with astounding ease is 1 of the reasons why he reached a level of talent that's just above and beyond anything i've seen, with perhaps the exemption of Diego Maradonna.

The way his namesake has been performing lately though, he's not too far behind such greatness.

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Fergie keeps saying this is the "romantic" game everybody wants to see. Since when was two massive, elite, corporate juggernauts meeting in the Disney Cup "romantic"? :lol:

Given the timing, it could be this that Ferguson is referring to.

They are supposed to be the best of enemies: the socialists revered by the Stretford End and the club who were supported by Franco and have raided Manchester United’s academy.

Who can forget the hatred in the words of Sir Alex Ferguson just five years ago when he said, as Real Madrid pursued Cristiano Ronaldo, they were a “mob” to whom he would not sell “a virus”.

But relations between the clubs, which have thawed a little since Jose Mourinho’s arrival in Spain, have a much happier history. Not least in the famous friendship between Santiago Bernabeu, the old Madrid president, whose name was given to the ground United will play in, and Sir Matt Busby 50 years ago.

The story of it is revealed in John Ludden’s book A Tale of Two Cities: Manchester and Madrid 1957-1968 and Ludden told The Independent he was surprised there is some modern animosity between the clubs. “When you look back on the history and you see what Real Madrid did for United after Munich.” he said, “It’s incredible.”

This warmth between Bernabeu and Busby grew out of mutual respect for each other’s teams, and led to some remarkable displays of generosity and charity when United were at their lowest. It grew out of the European Cup semi-final of April 1957, which Madrid won 5-3 on aggregate but were held to a stirring 2-2 draw in the second leg at Old Trafford.

Bernabeu was so impressed by the spirit and quality of United’s young side that he offered Busby a job. The Scot, though, was desperate to win in Europe with United, and said no.

Ten months later, United’s young team was devastated by tragedy. An air crash in Munich, 55 years ago last week, killed eight players, three staff and 10 others. They had just won a European Cup quarter-final. The dream of Busby’s side conquering Europe looked over.

United lost their semi-final to Milan three months after the crash but Milan were beaten 3-2 by Real Madrid in the final. Bernabeu, dedicated the win to his fallen friends from Manchester and even offered United the trophy, though it  was turned down.

If that offer was purely symbolic there were material pledges too, most significantly the offer to loan United the world’s finest footballer, Alfredo di Stefano, “the Blond Arrow”, for the 1958-59 season. “Bernabeu went to see Di Stefano about this,” Ludden said. “He was willing to go until the end of the season, United paying half his wages and Madrid the other half. But the Football Association blocked it as he would be taking the place of a potential British player.”

So Madrid helped in different ways. They made a memorial pennant with the names of the Munich dead, called “Champions of Honour”, which was sold in Spain to raise money for United. There were offers to the injured and bereaved to recuperate at Madrid’s luxurious facilities in Spain at no cost.

There was also a series of fund-raising friendlies between the two teams. As well as the human and sporting cost, the Munich disaster had hit United’s finances. Real Madrid usually charged £12,000 for such games, but Bernabeu told United “pay what you can afford”.

These games were not just fund-raisers, though. “United could not even dream of Europe, it was more a case of staying up [in the First Division],” said Ludden. “So Busby’s idea was to keep the idea of Europe alive for the fans and players. It gave the players a level – of Ferenc Puskas and Di Stefano – they had to get to if United were to get back in Europe.”

In October 1959 Madrid won the first friendly 6-1 in front of 63,000 at Old Trafford, with Di Stefano, Puskas and Francisco Gento outstanding.

Madrid won the re-match the following month 6-5, a remarkable game watched by 80,000 entranced fans, who applauded both teams off. That evening Madrid organised a fund-raising banquet for the bereaved families of Munich in which Bernabeu said Busby was “not only the bravest, but the greatest man I have ever met in football”.

For the next friendly, in October 1960, Puskas and Di Stefano were injury doubts. Bernabeu asked Busby if he wanted to postpone the game but United’s manager insisted, saying that Madrid “had become like family”. Puskas and Di Stefano were so impressed they played anyway and helped produce another classic, which Madrid won 3-2.

United were getting closer and in the next friendly in December 1961 they beat Madrid 3-1, and the following September won 2-0 in the Bernabeu. United won the FA Cup that season, the first trophy after Munich, and the title followed before the European Cup in 1968, United overcoming Madrid in the semi-finals on their way to the prize Busby had driven his rebuilt team towards for 10 years.

“If it had to be anyone, then I am glad it was them,” said a gracious Bernabeu afterwards. He had played his own part in their resurrection.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/how-real-madrid-helped-to-rebuild-manchester-united-after-munich-air-disaster-8492422.html

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Ferguson said: "People say we are not as good as the teams of the past but sometimes people have foggy impressions, I do myself at times.

"This team doesn't know when it is beaten. It has good individual players."

Wayne Rooney was depicted as a "hooligan" in the Spanish press on Tuesday, with sports daily Marca also describing the England striker as "a freckled demon" who is "built like a barrel packed with gunpowder" and on his way to "blow up the Bernabeu".

Asked about the unflattering reports in the Spanish press, Ferguson added: "Rooney can't read Spanish so we will be all right"

:D :D :D :D

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