Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I would tell Aberdeen fans to get tae fuck if I was sat having a meal.If you were eating lamb you'd be hard pressed to get rid of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Ah right I see what your saying but unfortunately it's true. Live in Aberdeen out by Dyce and married into a family of ex casuals.Not proud !Will end this topicAberdeen fans. Ha ha ha they still got some? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you were eating lamb you'd be hard pressed to get rid of them.Just show them the Mint Sauce and they'd be off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bheast Skelper 411 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 A relatively small number of shares are held by stockbrokers. If nobody is in the market to buy, the brokers (like any retail outfit) have to lower the price in order to shift stock.Sometimes, a broker might be asked by a large investor to try to find a buyer. If there are no takers, then that will also have a depressing effect on the share price.Essentially, the share price is an excellent indicator of the financial shape of a company. If the price is falling, the market has taken the view that there is little prospect of either a future increase in the share price or a decent dividend.In short, we should not be kidding ourselves here. RIFC plc is not in a healthy state. External investment is desperately needed, but it is very difficult to see where it is going to come from. The usual 'City' sources are hardly going to rush to invest when the share price is falling so alarmingly. In my view, DK is our only hope but, unfortunately, the AGM result has made an intervention on his part far more problematic.Unfortunately, after the last 6 months of pushing lies on here, YOUR VIEW counts for fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think Dave Kings passion for the club is up there with the rest of us, I think he will be back, in what way shape or form as yet unknown, but to be mustard keen such a short time ago to being not interested now seems odd to say the least, and alien to the mans make up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think Dave Kings passion for the club is up there with the rest of us, I think he will be back, in what way shape or form as yet unknown, but to be mustard keen such a short time ago to being not interested now seems odd to say the least, and alien to the mans make up.Just because he has not made any public statements recently does not mean that he is any less interested than he was three months ago. He is simply waiting for the right moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just because he has not made any public statements recently does not mean that he is any less interested than he was three months ago. He is simply waiting for the right moment.So when is the right moment since how you have worded it seems like you are close to him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 A relatively small number of shares are held by stockbrokers. If nobody is in the market to buy, the brokers (like any retail outfit) have to lower the price in order to shift stock.Sometimes, a broker might be asked by a large investor to try to find a buyer. If there are no takers, then that will also have a depressing effect on the share price.Essentially, the share price is an excellent indicator of the financial shape of a company. If the price is falling, the market has taken the view that there is little prospect of either a future increase in the share price or a decent dividend.In short, we should not be kidding ourselves here. RIFC plc is not in a healthy state. External investment is desperately needed, but it is very difficult to see where it is going to come from. The usual 'City' sources are hardly going to rush to invest when the share price is falling so alarmingly. In my view, DK is our only hope but, unfortunately, the AGM result has made an intervention on his part far more problematic.Not according to Dave King.Or are you suggesting he was lying like the rest of the rebels ?Paul Murray talked of city investment so it seems you are at odds with him too.In fact you seem at odds with all sides.The current investors are very wealthy and have indicated they would put more money in for a start.The AGM is 3 weeks gone and you are still trying desperately to paint it as a bad thing.Your hero lost and the club was saved.. Get over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 King doesn't want to just hand millions away again investing. He wants to be chairmen or whatever. He wants to be something within the club Id imagine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicklaus1987 1 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have been told (and it could be wrong) that King would only have to match the highest share price in the last 12 months upon purchasing 30% if he already owned shares. I don't think someone who has not previously owned shares needs to comply with that ruling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 So when is the right moment since how you have worded it seems like you are close to himAye he's as fuckin close to King as you and me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Aye he's as fuckin close to King as you and me.Just having a wind up, he has made claims of other users being close to the board before, so thought give him a taste of his own. Just fed up of him making out he knows this and that when it's just guessing at best Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Just having a wind up, he has made claims of other users being close to the board before, so thought give him a taste of his own. Just fed up of him making out he knows this and that when it's just guessing at bestAno mate i was just joining in laughing at him and his many half baked claims. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Ano mate i was just joining in laughing at him and his many half baked claims. Ah right got ya. Funny how he disappeared at the Agm the. Pops up out the shadows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 why do people think King will be back? their is no viable return to anyone putting money into the club since Scottish Football is on it's arse and will get worse before it gets any better. Yes he loves Rangers but why would he want to put money in until the review has been undertaken, a proper business plan and has been created and he can see what level of return a shareholder can expect over the next 2/5/10 years? Any money that we receive from investment needs tempered with sensible spending and we as fans should expect lesser players being brought in on lower wages for a few years until we can get funds from Europe etc. free transfers will be the order of the day until we hit the SPL IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasa_Papac_No1_Fan 605 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Not according to Dave King.Or are you suggesting he was lying like the rest of the rebels ?Paul Murray talked of city investment so it seems you are at odds with him too.In fact you seem at odds with all sides.The current investors are very wealthy and have indicated they would put more money in for a start.The AGM is 3 weeks gone and you are still trying desperately to paint it as a bad thing.Your hero lost and the club was saved.. Get over it.King did say Admin by December, it is now near the middle of January and we are still running normally. So yeah he did lie like the rest of the rebels Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 why do people think King will be back? their is no viable return to anyone putting money into the club since Scottish Football is on it's arse and will get worse before it gets any better. Yes he loves Rangers but why would he want to put money in until the review has been undertaken, a proper business plan and has been created and he can see what level of return a shareholder can expect over the next 2/5/10 years? Any money that we receive from investment needs tempered with sensible spending and we as fans should expect lesser players being brought in on lower wages for a few years until we can get funds from Europe etc. free transfers will be the order of the day until we hit the SPL IMO.It would be an emotional investment for King, and that's what sets him apart from most of the current large investors. DK would not expect a great return, but by the same token, he would not want his money to be blown away by people he did not completely trust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It would be an emotional investment for King, and that's what sets him apart from most of the current large investors. DK would not expect a great return, but by the same token, he would not want his money to be blown away by people he did not completely trust.So who is these people he trusts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bump 168 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 i really feel having DK involved on the board would be good for us,we need someone we can relate too and someone who will push us forward finacially by getting the fans onboard,hope he will be involved within the next 12 months Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I hope he would invest and yes it is reasonable for him to want some of his guys on board BUT all we keep hearing about is how he was going to invest BUT! It seems to me after all their ego trips the Murray camp won't let go Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujolais 1,371 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I cannot help thinking Dave King will not feature unless:Existing shareholders are prepared to sell him a significant number (the amount which will give him a genuine say in how the club is run) of existing shares.OrThe existing shareholders agree to another share issue.Both the above would mean that the current significant shareholders would have their "significance" diluted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB 599 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 King has said repeatedly that he will not buy shares to put money into someone elses pocket. I believe he is awaiting another share issue which he will basically buy out so that the money he spends goes directly into Rangers accounts. The impasse is that previous investors do not want to see their %age holding diminish, However I do believe by this time next year there will be another share issue as monies will need to be found to finance the return to the Scottish Premiership. And yes he is going to want a place on the board for himself or his delegate should the SPFL/SFA block his own directorship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 King has said repeatedly that he will not buy shares to put money into someone elses pocket. I believe he is awaiting another share issue which he will basically buy out so that the money he spends goes directly into Rangers accounts. The impasse is that previous investors do not want to see their %age holding diminish, However I do believe by this time next year there will be another share issue as monies will need to be found to finance the return to the Scottish Premiership. And yes he is going to want a place on the board for himself or his delegate should the SPFL/SFA block his own directorship.I think you will find that the next share issue will be happening a lot sooner than January 2015! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It would be an emotional investment for King, and that's what sets him apart from most of the current large investors. DK would not expect a great return, but by the same token, he would not want his money to be blown away by people he did not completely trust.That'll be why he didn't back Minico then. Explains a lot.In fact, now I come to think about it, virtually none of the corporate investors backed them.Not many fans either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think you will find that the next share issue will be happening a lot sooner than January 2015!Where you getting your inside info, we all need to know what you know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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