GOAT 30,449 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I was playing 5's with the work mates on Thursday night and after I was speaking to one of the Motherwell fans in my work. He was telling me he watched our game ( I'm guessing it was Monday) and his exact words were "McCoist is wasting Law". I knew what he meant but I asked him anyway what he meant. He told me for some reason Law comes deep to try and start attacks when he plays for us, but at Motherwell he was in a much more advanced role at Motherwell and only came deep if they were defending more. Basically he's being wasted coming deep because he creates much more attacking. We have a player that can sit deep and move forward when needed and he's being wasted on the left.If a motherwell fan seen this watching us once, why can't McCoist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplandbear11 1,087 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I couldn't believe how deep both Law and Black sat in at times today even when we were on the attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Deja vu,I posted this in an earlier threadTrouble is he needs a good ball winner to allow him to take the pass and play forward creatively. Ian Black has been a bit disappointing recently in that role. In todays game and the earlier one this week Law was pulling further and further back to get the ball ending up in left back postions. The guys a creator, has a good football brain, he just needs a few others around to win the ball and make him some space.Also wonder if a good player up front who can find space to take the outlet pass would help him, rather than Daly who is more stationary. (A Kenny Miller kind of player ?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,083 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Law should be played just behind front two, trying to get beyond them at all times..He's been really poor recently..Doesn't help that he has a guy who's chucked it beside him though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,986 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 law was brilliant when lewis macleod was beside him doing the grunt workwhat happened to macleod anyway, not seen him in centre mid for ages now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 This isn't new. We as a club haven't been able to use an attacking midfielder for years.Normally they end up out wide. Was a trait with Walter Smith and it's been passed onto Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo 588 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Yeah Law been used deep is of no use to us - I didn't think he was brilliant today but he showed flashes of his quality.He's someone who could do a job for us even as a squad player in the top flight. To be fair he's playing alongside Ian Black who is useless Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,083 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 law was brilliant when lewis macleod was beside him doing the grunt workwhat happened to macleod anyway, not seen him in centre mid for ages now It's Macleods turn to fill our problem position..Shame for the lad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The last time we had a similar issue, the player was dropped and that ended with the manager being sacked. That was of course, Barry Ferguson and Paul Le Guen.Barry started to work his way back to defence in order to get the ball and distribute it and he blamed the tactics of PLG. PLG went on record stating that he had ordered Barry to attack more but he refused.My question is, has Law become a Barry? Is he coming back of his own accord because our tactics so shite or has Ally asked him to do so?Black was basically a defender today and at one point, Mohsni was further forward than him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandhi1872 186 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 At the end of a game last month, I think it was against Dunfermline Law finished the game in the position just off the front. This was when Ally brought Foster on and moved Faure into central midfield which meant Law moved further forward. I thought he looked good here even though it was only for about 20 minutes. I would like to see him played there in a 4-2-3-1 formation with Macleod and Black sitting deeper with McKay/Aird, Law and Templeton ahead of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The reason is that McCall knows more about progressive tactics than McCoist - end of.I mentioned in an earlier post that Law was playing too deep today and maybe he's doing what other good players do, in going back to get the ball and start an attack because no one else has the initiative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Rather try McLeod in Blacks position and have Law further upfield right behind the striker(s) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 The last time we had a similar issue, the player was dropped and that ended with the manager being sacked. That was of course, Barry Ferguson and Paul Le Guen.Barry started to work his way back to defence in order to get the ball and distribute it and he blamed the tactics of PLG. PLG went on record stating that he had ordered Barry to attack more but he refused.My question is, has Law become a Barry? Is he coming back of his own accord because our tactics so shite or has Ally asked him to do so?Black was basically a defender today and at one point, Mohsni was further forward than him.McDowell (sp?) spoke to Black (while McCoist stood with his arms folded) and for the next five minutes Black stayed back and Mohsni went forward. Says it all if we've got to ask a defender to attack for us, when we've took off a fast attacker in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,986 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 i feel sorry for law, i can see why he drops deep cause if he doesnt he gets a neck strain from looking up at the punts going over his head to the lone striker same for shiels, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Law looks as if he's playing as a sweeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Cant' t wait till Blacks an ex Ger ! If he was half the player he thinks he is we would sell him to Real Madrid and buy a midfielder who can tackle and shoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,510 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 no excuse really, he is a profesional football player, he should be able to adapt to any position. I fear this is just another thread aimed at getting yet another dig in at McCoist. just out of intrest GOAT if we get to the cup final will your opinion of McCoist change or is there no way back for you and Ally the manager? you seem very intent in showing the worst in every McCoist related item. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 no excuse really, he is a profesional football player, he should be able to adapt to any position. I fear this is just another thread aimed at getting yet another dig in at McCoist. just out of intrest GOAT if we get to the cup final will your opinion of McCoist change or is there no way back for you and Ally the manager? you seem very intent in showing the worst in every McCoist related item.What a lot of crap. Messi would make a shite defender.GOAT may like to bash Ally but the Ally lovers also have an agenda and yours appears that despite the discussion point, you will ignore it - even if you believe it (sounds like my wife). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 no excuse really, he is a profesional football player, he should be able to adapt to any position. I fear this is just another thread aimed at getting yet another dig in at McCoist. just out of intrest GOAT if we get to the cup final will your opinion of McCoist change or is there no way back for you and Ally the manager? you seem very intent in showing the worst in every McCoist related item.The first part of that is balls, and you know it.Second part, we wont get to the Cup Final. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Law should be played just behind front two, trying to get beyond them at all times..He's been really poor recently..Doesn't help that he has a guy who's chucked it beside him though.Agreed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesblue 42 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 McCoist is simply tactically inept. Our midfield should be:Aird - Law - MacLeod - Templeton, with MacLeod holding and Law driving. So fucking simple yet Ally can't see it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Something we should be used to.If he isn't playing a CB at RB he's playing a CM at LW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I was playing 5's with the work mates on Thursday night and after I was speaking to one of the Motherwell fans in my work. He was telling me he watched our game ( I'm guessing it was Monday) and his exact words were "McCoist is wasting Law". I knew what he meant but I asked him anyway what he meant. He told me for some reason Law comes deep to try and start attacks when he plays for us, but at Motherwell he was in a much more advanced role at Motherwell and only came deep if they were defending more. Basically he's being wasted coming deep because he creates much more attacking. We have a player that can sit deep and move forward when needed and he's being wasted on the left.If a motherwell fan seen this watching us once, why can't McCoist?Good post and a valid point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,510 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 the first part is crap? how many players have come and gone through Ibrox or any other club for that matter and had to play in a different position? I would say a good few, for example Moshni was a centre forward, McCulloch can play anywhere, Daly could slot in at centre back, even as far back as Papac who was bought as a CH and played his whole Rangers career at LB, they are just off the top of my head. most left and right backs start off as wingers nowadays and are then told you are now a LB/RB. hows that bollocks? Messi was a winger he is now a centre forward so thats that arguement redundant. why would you want Messi to defend? lol. I can't see any reason why we wont make the cup final, we may be shite on the eye but that doesn't win you matches, for example Tony Mowbrays teams played some really good football very pleasing on the eye for the fan, but he won fuck all, Walter Smith played some of the worst football we've seen and won three titles and a european final. Ask Ally or any other football fan if they want good silky samba football or trophies? it's a no brainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 the first part is crap? how many players have come and gone through Ibrox or any other club for that matter and had to play in a different position? I would say a good few, for example Moshni was a centre forward, McCulloch can play anywhere, Daly could slot in at centre back, even as far back as Papac who was bought as a CH and played his whole Rangers career at LB, they are just off the top of my head. most left and right backs start off as wingers nowadays and are then told you are now a LB/RB. hows that bollocks? Messi was a winger he is now a centre forward so thats that arguement redundant. why would you want Messi to defend? lol. I can't see any reason why we wont make the cup final, we may be shite on the eye but that doesn't win you matches, for example Tony Mowbrays teams played some really good football very pleasing on the eye for the fan, but he won fuck all, Walter Smith played some of the worst football we've seen and won three titles and a european final. Ask Ally or any other football fan if they want good silky samba football or trophies? it's a no brainer.Moshni was not a centre forward although he has played there for previous clubsPapac never played his full career at left back, he also played centre half and left midfield, Messi is also more of an attacking midfielder or 2nd striker, never a Centre ForwardTony Mowbray's team was shiteWe will not make the cup final because we will be physically overpowered by stronger SPFL teams and our defence will be exposed against better strikers.Do you seriously think Walter Smith's Rangers were worse than Ally's RangersJesus Fuckin Wept Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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