tannerall 25,935 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/306533-rangers-to-take-ebt-fine-to-arbitration-as-scottish-fa-rule-against-club/Does this signal the beginning of a stronger stance now being taken by the board against those who have done us wrong ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think it signals we don't have 250k tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 And they can pay us the prize money and transfer fees they withheld from us too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 At the moment its more of a delay tatic however is it not the case they only have our verble agreement on it if thats the case they can fuck off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Signals an unwillingness to part with cash.Which is fine by me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrickblue 322 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The spfl and the Scottish fa want us dead or as near dead as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If it means selling Ian Black for 250k to find the money I'd rather pay the fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Does this signal the beginning of a stronger stance now being taken by the board against those who have done us wrong ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I thought the SFA and SPFL were meant to try and 'protect' their member clubs. These counts seem to have done nothing but to hinder us. Maybe other clubs fans would like that, just so as they can all move up a place in the chase of septic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,758 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think it signals we don't have 250k tbh spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think it signals we don't have 250k tbhWe don't need to have the money, they stated they are going to withhold all prize and TV money's that were owed and due from this year. I'm pretty sure that they aren't allowef legally to do that but we all know these bastards at the SFA just make there own rules to suit themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 We don't need to have the money, they stated they are going to withhold all prize and TV money's that were owed and due from this year. I'm pretty sure that they aren't allowef legally to do that but we all know these bastards at the SFA just make there own rules to suit themselves.We need to have it if we were relying on the income from tv. Anyway, by the time the appeal is heard I expect us to be under new ownership or to have enough in the bank from MA latest loan. Hope its the former Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Sounds like a stalling tactic unless we are confident that we can win any appeal without much of a fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeney 241 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Sounds like a stalling tactic unless we are confident that we can win any appeal without much of a fightThere is no "stalling". The fine will be withheld prize money due at the end of the season, it's not a case of once we admit liability we have to make a payment from our accounts in which case stalling could be claimed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Fightback fuck all, the board raise their head above the parapet as its money they need. Any attack on the club not cash related - they couldn't give a fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think it signals we don't have 250k tbhMore than likely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierBlue1 499 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The SPFL wouldn't have the bollocks to do this if we were stronger it's because we are already under attack from inside and outside the club. I noted that the SFA didn't announce the finding until after the tickets were sold for the semi. The club should now withdraw from this game and also inform the SPFL that we will not have TV coverage from Ibrox next season. Let's see what they do when the TVS companies start heading for the door. The SFA and SPFL are corrupt to the core and will do anything to keep us down. No Surrender. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATBB 1,524 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 OPs lost it.This is the board struggling to pay £250,000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 OPs lost it.This is the board struggling to pay £250,000.They don't have to pay. The money will be taken from sums due to the club from the League.Did anyone notice the part of the article where the panel ruled the SFA was 'not competent'. They could have stopped there rather than adding any caveats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Rover 789 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Give them hee haw . Ok , maybe we'll eventually end up paying it , but in the meantime lets not give these scumbags an easy ride . They wanted the EBT enquiry , we didny , proved innocent but we've to pay for it .... The wankers that accused us of all these cimes against humanity can pick up the tab . Edit : Just remembered they are going to withold the cash , wankers anyway . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATBB 1,524 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Though I disagree with us even having to pay the fine, surely the SFA could take the money from that £3m they're due us.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 In today's Scotsman http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-bid-to-appeal-250k-fine-is-rejected-1-3661806 two points stood out me:-However, the case was not heard by an appeal tribunal but a preliminary panel, which ruled that Rangers did not have the right to challenge the SPFL’s attempts to recoup the money because they were not a “determination of a recognised football body” but rather an interpretation of an agreement between two parties. The SPFL preliminary panel appear to be saying they don't recognised Rangers existence within the league, because our licence to play was an agreement made between Rangers and the SFA. What are they trying to accuse Rangers of? Rangers will thus have to prove they did not accept liability for such fines when they signed the five-way agreement, which paved the way for them to transfer the oldco club’s SFA membership and join the Scottish Football League in July 2012.Rangers can't prove this, it's common knowledge that the club had to sign a non disclosure agreement as part of the 5 way agreement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The SPFL wouldn't have the bollocks to do this if we were stronger it's because we are already under attack from inside and outside the club. I noted that the SFA didn't announce the finding until after the tickets were sold for the semi. The club should now withdraw from this game and also inform the SPFL that we will not have TV coverage from Ibrox next season. Let's see what they do when the TVS companies start heading for the door. The SFA and SPFL are corrupt to the core and will do anything to keep us down. No Surrender.Spot on, demand a tv blackout until this is heard in court..Fight fire with fire or let them bitch us all over again.Time someone from within Ibrox took these cunts head on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 In today's Scotsman http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-bid-to-appeal-250k-fine-is-rejected-1-3661806 two points stood out me:-However, the case was not heard by an appeal tribunal but a preliminary panel, which ruled that Rangers did not have the right to challenge the SPFLs attempts to recoup the money because they were not a determination of a recognised football body but rather an interpretation of an agreement between two parties. The SPFL preliminary panel appear to be saying they don't recognised Rangers existence within the league, because our licence to play was an agreement made between Rangers and the SFA. What are they trying to accuse Rangers of? Rangers will thus have to prove they did not accept liability for such fines when they signed the five-way agreement, which paved the way for them to transfer the oldco clubs SFA membership and join the Scottish Football League in July 2012.Rangers can't prove this, it's common knowledge that the club had to sign a non disclosure agreement as part of the 5 way agreement. Non disclosure, get a bloody press conference and hand out copy's to the press the rip the contract up in front of the press.We can say what we want but our board just take it the arse all ways. Somers and Wallace who agreed to pay this, who the hell gave them permission to pay this? Time the club and the fans grew a set, Tv blackout or on the old firm game, all cameras banned from our games also and watch the scramble.We get paid or no coverage of Rangers games,We are a business no a fucking charity, watch them panic if we get a court order for a tv blackout until this case is heard.We can easily beat them, Watch sky and bt run to the hills,We are not a piggy bank for the other clubs, they want a tv deal ? Fine, go get one but leave our games out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyblue9 24 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The ebt fine.who is liable for it,is it oldco or the RFC.bearing in mind that the £2 million that they withheld was aimed at oldco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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