Inigo 33,372 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Or maybe he's not good enough with the ball at his feet. Maybe they think he's found his level. Who knows why he's been decided not to be good enough, but I bet the staff don't get it wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,372 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, BEE said: Why loan him out then when realisitically he can do nothing to get near the first team? How do you know realistically he couldn't? You don't know that at all. His being the best player at Morton doesn't prove that, for the reasons I gave earlier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Good chance that Tom Walsh will be away as well then? Trying to think of what other youth players are out of contract. Ross Lyon and Josh jeffries are too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,995 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: You expected him to break though under McCoist at 17/18? This is no surprise but from the little I've seen of him he looks to have some talent, probably sign for Morton as Jim Duffy rates him highly. Didn't expect him to but I think if he was ever going to, the second division was his chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, Skyson1872 said: Although I agree with the sentiment that there was no point loaning him out etc, but just because he was good at his loan clubs doesn't mean he will be good here. Danny Wilson is a far more established centre half and he struggles because of the way we want our centre backs to play, Luca might not be able to fit in with our style. All the best to him for the future, hope he goes far in the game. Wilson struggles because he's pish and turns slower than an old man with a zimmer he's not improved in any way since he left us the first time round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,049 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Smile said: Wilson struggles because he's pish and turns slower than an old man with a zimmer he's not improved in any way since he left us the first time round. This 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainDandy 834 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I have a friend who's a Morton fan and apparently Partick Thistle want him along with St Mirren. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Anyone considered that maybe he's just deciding to leave? The comments so far appear to be assuming that we don't want to keep him... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,952 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 47 minutes ago, BEE said: Why loan him out then when realisitically he can do nothing to get near the first team? He was getting his chance in competitive football. Good for all concerned at the time but he clearly hasn't shown enough if we do let him go, As for not having any intention of keeping him, BEE, I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandStandBear 995 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Good luck to the guy, think our players on loan might struggle to get a place on the bus here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 36,845 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Wilson pish, Kiernan pish, all of our players pish. BUT Gasparotto is now the next Gerard Pique Love RM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,717 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Let's be honest, most have probably seen no more than his Football Manager stats to judge him on. If he's not got enough in W&Ws view, then that's fine by me. Wish the boy luck though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,134 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Jim Duffy hinted at this on Friday on Scoreboard, was just not up to the standard required. Having seen his dreadful performance at the YC Final last season, this is not a great surprise for many. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 In recent times a certain Kane Hemmings left Rangers for some small club in England, then returned to Dundee where he has (I think) now scored 20 goals this season. Would be very ironic (yet again) if Luca in a few seasons goes on to be come an assured CB playing with a good club, especially if our own CB partnerings are not fixed soon and performing more competently. With Ball returning to Spurs and Luca gone it would seem MW must have the acquisition of a CB firmly in mind because the current pairing on current form could get well and truly found out over the course of a Premiership league campaign a lot more than they've already been found out playing in the Championship. Very best wishes to Luca and hope that he goes on to enjoy a great career as a professional footballer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverfc13 175 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Smile said: Wilson struggles because he's pish and turns slower than an old man with a zimmer he's not improved in any way since he left us the first time round. How many pish players have a SPL , Scottish cup and league cup winners medal at the age of 18 1 hour ago, Smile said: Wilson struggles because he's pish and turns slower than an old man with a zimmer he's not improved in any way since he left us the first time round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, BEE said: Raging about this, consistently got player of season every time we loaned him out - what's the point in the loan system if we just release the player regardless of performance? Agree with this he should've been in the team for 5/6 games and a pre season under MW then taken it from there. I don't think MW rates any of the young players he has seen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Skyson1872 said: Although I agree with the sentiment that there was no point loaning him out etc, but just because he was good at his loan clubs doesn't mean he will be good here. Danny Wilson is a far more established centre half and he struggles because of the way we want our centre backs to play, Luca might not be able to fit in with our style. All the best to him for the future, hope he goes far in the game. This. MW doesn't see him as a defender who'll fit in with the way he wants his central defenders to play. He's of an age where he should be showing to MW that he has the potential to be what he's looking for. If I were the Manager (god forbid) the first question I would ask myself is 'If he weren't a Rangers player, would I want to sign him?' Obviously MW wouldn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,372 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: In recent times a certain Kane Hemmings left Rangers for some small club in England, then returned to Dundee where he has (I think) now scored 20 goals this season. Would be very ironic (yet again) if Luca in a few seasons goes on to be come an assured CB playing with a good club, especially if our own CB partnerings are not fixed soon and performing more competently. With Ball returning to Spurs and Luca gone it would seem MW must have the acquisition of a CB firmly in mind because the current pairing on current form could get well and truly found out over the course of a Premiership league campaign a lot more than they've already been found out playing in the Championship. Very best wishes to Luca and hope that he goes on to enjoy a great career as a professional footballer. Doesn't happen very often though, this Hemmings thing. He's been the exception, rather than the rule. Generally if we get rid of players, they don't end up amounting to anything we would regret. I can think of only a few Hemmingses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,049 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, daverfc13 said: How many pish players have a SPL , Scottish cup and league cup winners medal at the age of 18 He was on the bench for the SC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, BEE said: Why loan him out then when realisitically he can do nothing to get near the first team? Because he has a contract - and it's the most decent thing to do, to give the guy exposure for his own footballing career. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Inigo said: Player of the season at Morton or Airdrie doesn't equate to good enough for us. Then why even loan him to those clubs in the first place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Inigo said: Doesn't happen very often though, this Hemmings thing. He's been the exception, rather than the rule. Generally if we get rid of players, they don't end up amounting to anything we would regret. I can think of only a few Hemmingses. Isn't Shinnie another one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,372 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Then why even loan him to those clubs in the first place? Because it gives them the opportunity to get competitive experience, play well WHILST showing something extra that suggests they can make it. Gasparotto may have done the first two, but he perhaps didn't do the latter. Unlike, for example, Charlie Adam. You CAN show enough at these clubs, but Gasparotto didn't. Ideally you'd want them to do it at better clubs, but you can only send them to clubs that want them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 43 minutes ago, daverfc13 said: How many pish players have a SPL , Scottish cup and league cup winners medal at the age of 18 Or got sent off it the same cup as he was too fucking slow to mark his man. Nothing's changed since then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Misteral said: He was getting his chance in competitive football. Good for all concerned at the time but he clearly hasn't shown enough if we do let him go, As for not having any intention of keeping him, BEE, I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. I just don't think he stood a chance, sure I read on here that the management team didn't like the look of him when they shipped him out. My point is I think he did everything possible (winning both young player of the year and player of the year at Airdrie, and I'm pretty sure player of the year at Greenock) but was still not given a chance with us - I don't know what else he could have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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