Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, kaiser1041 said: That says more about you than it does me. how much do you put into Rangers now ? How much do I put I ? Season ticket holder since 98, so 18 years of paying that. Cccs member, so purchasing additional tickets even at times when I can make games. Ran my supporters bus for last 8 years, so by default do the donkey work for 15 other season ticket holders to be at games. Inherited my grandfathers shares and added to them, lost almost £2000 worth, then went back with my own money and bought £500 worth again. Does that pass your test as to my level of input? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: How much do I put I ? Season ticket holder since 98, so 18 years of paying that. Cccs member, so purchasing additional tickets even at times when I can make games. Ran my supporters bus for last 8 years, so by default do the donkey work for 15 other season ticket holders to be at games. Inherited my grandfathers shares and added to them, lost almost £2000 worth, then went back with my own money and bought £500 worth again. Does that pass your test as to my level of input? It wasn't a test but I'm honestly glad you put so much in. it highlights to me that we as a fan base put our hands in our pockets enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robg58 319 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 No point counting prize money as this is usually confiscated to go towards paying fines levied on us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,422 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 RST2 will "Loan" some money soon, no need to panic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Not a chance, a bit tongue in cheek, but should we not have loads of money since no one is doing any stealing any more? I think £400 average would be a pretty good estimate for our ST holders since you have bar72, club deck, and main stand all paying a good bit more than that. I still don't think our weekly wages will be extortionate either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 minute ago, j1mgg said: Not a chance, a bit tongue in cheek, but should we not have loads of money since no one is doing any stealing any more? I think £400 average would be a pretty good estimate for our ST holders since you have bar72, club deck, and main stand all paying a good bit more than that. I still don't think our weekly wages will be extortionate either. Not necessarily, as a club right now we are probably just over breaking even due to the lack of TV revenue and commercial income. I would rather we were self sustainable and running at a constant profit before we started spending relative big bucks on players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,639 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 We've done enough, time for Tam to step up and pay or fuck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,608 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, j1mgg said: Not a chance, a bit tongue in cheek, but should we not have loads of money since no one is doing any stealing any more? I think £400 average would be a pretty good estimate for our ST holders since you have bar72, club deck, and main stand all paying a good bit more than that. I still don't think our weekly wages will be extortionate either. £400 isn't the average. It's much less. The year ending June 2016 ST sales were 26 515 bringing in £6.3 Million which is an average of £237. Even adding 20% on to that for the recent hikes would only bring the figure to £284. Think there was a 5% hike last year too, so that takes the figure to an average of around £297. Mainly because there are so many kids and OAP tickets to take into account, on top of the fact that tickets in alot of areas, behind the goals etc, are relatively cheap. 297 x 42000 = £12.475 Million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,264 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, Inigo said: £400 isn't the average. It's much less. The year ending June 2016 ST sales were 26 515 bringing in £6.3 Million which is an average of £237. Even adding 20% on to that for the recent hikes would only bring the figure to £284. Think there was a 5% hike last year too, so that takes the figure to an average of around £297. Mainly because there are so many kids and OAP tickets to take into account, on top of the fact that tickets in alot of areas, behind the goals etc, are relatively cheap. 297 x 42000 = £12.475 Million. There's so many supporters really don't understand how much money we have (or don't have). T3B and others will likely have to again put up loans for equity this year. In fact, is that even in doubt? We're going to be running a loss of millions again this year aren't we? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,608 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, jim white's a bear said: There's so many supporters really don't understand how much money we have (or don't have). T3B and others will likely have to again put up loans for equity this year. In fact, is that even in doubt? We're going to be running a loss of millions again this year aren't we? Yup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I don't think it's right fans dictate the transfer policy in regards to who we sign, but they should be listened to if there's someone they really don't want i.e Lafferty, Naismith, Davis, Whittaker, McGregor etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 5 hours ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: I know this is quite a utopian dream, but off the back of the seeming reluctance of the board to invest in the team, is this something fans of the club across the world could help with. It's clear we need investment in a couple of key areas and that needs to be quality not potential. Fans have raised money in the past to assist the club. Could something be put in place to receive donations that is solely for transfers. I realise it sounds a bit desperate but King seems happy sitting with his thumb up his arse. Aye happy to donate, after all TRFFF show how we can unite, raise money as a collective and put it to good use. Well all except the good use part. Fans have already handed over around 16 -19M in ST money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontine 4 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, jim white's a bear said: There's so many supporters really don't understand how much money we have (or don't have). T3B and others will likely have to again put up loans for equity this year. In fact, is that even in doubt? We're going to be running a loss of millions again this year aren't we? Agreed. Problem is we're undercapitalised and the loans just go to covering operating expenses. I really thought they would have made fan ownership part of their plan. 100k fans paying £5 a month for 51% would mean we don't have to rely on transfer fees or Europe to top us up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbear 399 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Terrible idea fans on here would have burst the bank for that wee flash cunt Celtic just punted to rotherham Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbear 399 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: I don't think it's right fans dictate the transfer policy in regards to who we sign, but they should be listened to if there's someone they really don't want i.e Lafferty, Naismith, Davis, Whittaker, McGregor etc. I remember eoin jess being linked and the fans let advocaat know we didn't want him during a game other example would be cup final we chanted stick your kenny miller up your arse but that didn't have any effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,305 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 57 minutes ago, Vwbear said: Terrible idea fans on here would have burst the bank for that wee flash cunt Celtic just punted to rotherham I think the principle was to raise money for a transfer Kitty not decide who it was spent upon? (I think) If it was guaranteed to go on players I would do this no problem whatsoever, and think it s a decent idea. I would not for a second judge anyone who feels they are investing enough as it is or indeed doesn't fancy it out of principle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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