pcbear 10,913 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just how many times did we gift the tims a platform to build an attack by fucking up a basic pass? don't even start me on 2nd balls which we never seem to be in a position to win. Not just yesterday its every single game we are masters of our downfall by repeating the same errors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's what happens when you have 3rd/4th rate players,their just not good enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,201 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 The real issue I had yesterday is our defence not pushing up when wes was forced into a long ball from a free or goal kick. Celtic tactically got it spot on with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ivybank said: That's what happens when you have 3rd/4th rate players,their just not good enough Its bread and butter passes that any footballer at any level should be capable of, some of our free kicks in attacking positions ended up in a breakaway for them due to a simple pass going astray, most have the concentration level of a five year old on Christmas morning as well, dreaming away when full focus is required for 90 minutes. You are spot on about the player right enough as far as general quality goes, on their game they are fine but its one decent performance in five, the rest of the time they are empty jerseys. Fucked up my hogmany as well, we had tickets to go to a doo last night, I went to my bed as I would not have been the life and soul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 In the 2nd half the game was lost as we continued to let them cut through the middle of the park, stood back and let them get on with it. Bottom line is the standard of player is inferior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 The thing that gets me is when Wes gathers the ball and everyone can see the obvious quick throw but he holds the ball for 10 seconds before either punting it out the field for a Celtic throw or putting us under immediate pressure by throwing it to a defender that already has a man breathing down his neck. I'd see the point if it was working more often than not but it wasn't and it rarely does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 548 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Teams don't get it "spot on" when trying to work us out! an under 12 team could push 3 bodies up the park and work is out. Teams must actually howl like fuck in disbelief that we just keep doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: The real issue I had yesterday is our defence not pushing up when wes was forced into a long ball from a free or goal kick. Celtic tactically got it spot on with that. I actually thought Kiernan, Wilson and hill all had good games...none of them have any pace and going man for man with them at the back was a risk, I lost count how many times Hill bet Dembele to the ball. But I hear what your saying mate - I think it comes from a lack of trust of the midfield and forward line...Being honest the ball only stuck to Miller and mckay to give them a breather. Defenders worst nightmare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,201 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: I actually thought Kiernan, Wilson and hill all had good games...none of them have any pace and going man for man with them at the back was a risk, I lost count how many times Hill bet Dembele to the ball. But I hear what your saying mate - I think it comes from a lack of trust of the midfield and forward line...Being honest the ball only stuck to Miller and mckay to give them a breather. Defenders worst nightmare. It's not their fault mate. It's the coaches Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 We've been giving the ball away cheaply since August 2015. The players just don't have what it takes to play a high pressing passing game. The evidence is there week in and week out as a lot of our goals conceded are a direct result of mistakes on the ball. the reality is we're a million miles from the smellies just now and aslong as they keep over spending and we keep under spending then the gap will only get wider. My only hope is they spend spend and fail to qualify for the champions league cos there's no millionaires out there willing to put top money into Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, Dan Deacon said: It's not their fault mate. It's the coaches Yeah I get what ur saying bud, but the likes of Windass, Waghorn and Holt are better than what they showed yesterday. Don't even get me started on Halliday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I spend the majority of matches on the edge of my seat trying not to shit myself watching Danny Wilson, Rob Keirnan and the like trying to thread a needle with passes around our 18 yard box, the number of times we turn easy possession into a dangerous attack for our opponents has to be addressed! Now im not trying to suggest we could be as good as Liverpool or that we have player as good to execute what they do but watching them last night was a real eye opener. When in possession they always have numerous players around the ball within 5/10 yards to offer an easy pass to the person in possession, for us it's the opposite and we don't have enough options, not enough people wanting or showing for the ball and end up trying to force a 20 yard pass through 3/4 bodies. Also when they lose possession the get 8/9 men behind the ball very quickly and never looks like the opposition can counter attack easily, when we lose possession we always seem to have 3/4 unmarked opponents running at us. It's normally Rogic but yesterday it was Armstrong, the number of times he got possession 25/30 yards out in-between our defence and midfield with no one marking him was worrying, if we worked harder and quickly got back to two lines of 4 or a 4 and a 5 we would shut down the space in the 30/40 yards from our goal. Like I said, we don't have the same quality as Liverpool but it's all relative and we don't play against the same level of opponents as Liverpool do so I think it's quite feasible we could achieve the same results as Liverpool do against the teams in our league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I've never seen a team as bad as us for wasting throw ins. Ages pissing about taking one then the ball more often than not goes to the opposition anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 What infuriated me more than anything yesterday was the formation. With the our so called 'wing-backs' playing so high up the pitch, the tarriers almost had free reign down each flank and punished us for it. Sums up the managers tactical naivety and despite him stating we will learn from this etc, we won't learn fuck all. Another thing which has been well covered on here is defending set pieces. How many goals is that now we've conceded from corners since the start of last season? Pisses me right off and is just one of many black marks against Warburton. The fact Dembele had the time to bring the ball down, control it and get a shot away is fucking criminal. It won't be the last time it'll happen either which makes it all the more frustrating. I've long ran out of patience with the management team, they're totally out their depth and it's time for the both of them to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,532 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, pcbear said: Just how many times did we gift the tims a platform to build an attack by fucking up a basic pass? don't even start me on 2nd balls which we never seem to be in a position to win. Not just yesterday its every single game we are masters of our downfall by repeating the same errors. Said the same thing yesterday. Too many passes are short, under hit and predictable. It's a frustrating part of our game that should be a very basic part of our game. Poor passes cause injuries too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,580 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 5 hours ago, He's blue he's white said: I actually thought Kiernan, Wilson and hill all had good games...none of them have any pace and going man for man with them at the back was a risk, I lost count how many times Hill bet Dembele to the ball. But I hear what your saying mate - I think it comes from a lack of trust of the midfield and forward line...Being honest the ball only stuck to Miller and mckay to give them a breather. Defenders worst nightmare. Wilson was horrendous at their first goal,watch it again,he's marking dembele runs over to the ball(for some reason) runs back to him but it's too late.just a rotten defender,schoolboy error Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp9 753 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Can't remember the last time i thought having a goal kick was a disadvantage Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 It happens because, with a few exceptions, we have a team full of players who panic when they're in possession and see an opposition player running at them so they rush their passes. No composure or ability give themselves that extra bit of space to pick a pass. The defence are the worst for it which makes this playing it out from the back philosophy even more annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 For me it looks like its a rush to give the ball to someone else so they are to blame if they lose it. Tav and Wilson are brutal at passing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_n1 536 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 We have to many selfish players forester and waggy should be fucking punted after the all about me attitude yesterday that mob are pass pass pass even when they can shoot they look to pass when we move it we look good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 5 hours ago, RD.1872 said: . The fact Dembele had the time to bring the ball down, control it and get a shot away is fucking criminal. Certainly was, at a corner you usually get a split second to get a header or snapshot on target. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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