KingKirk 25,864 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Great so rather than having a team full of lower league English players who are Warburton & McParlands mates we will have a squad that is full of lower league Portugese players and Caixinha's mates. It's an absolute embarasament that just two years after doing it we are in a position where we need to rebuild the entire squad again. One of the downsides to trying to buy cheap. Fod or Wilson Imo has been the only successes and even they aren't upto it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 We need at least 6/8 players of a higher level than we currently have. So we need around 15/20 million spent, which ain't happening. So we are basically fucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,763 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, geronimoo said: Waggy, Halliday, Kiernan etc are lost causes and need to go, I think Windass and Forrester are players who could get better, guys like Holt and Wilson can be decent squad players. Windass is a pussy. At 48 his old man would have put in a better shift yesterday... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 45 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Great so rather than having a team full of lower league English players who are Warburton & McParlands mates we will have a squad that is full of lower league Portugese players and Caixinha's mates. It's an absolute embarasament that just two years after doing it we are in a position where we need to rebuild the entire squad again. Totally agreed. We've had to rebuild every single season for the past 5 going on 6 seasons now 90% of the signings the people on this very forum, anyone that knows their stuff were saying there's not what we need and warning of the impending rebuild again the following season while others shot them down in flames. We don't put a single bit of thought into anyone we sign. Me personally I'd take a chunk of this alleged 3-million and use it to terminate as many of them as possible to prove a point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, WWTC said: I dont think he'll get anywhere near that, but I hope i'm wrong. I do, however, think we'll sign alot of height and strength. We need it. Pedro talks about aggression, but as ive said umpteen times over the last few weeks, we simply dont have aggressive players. Looking at the match ups yesterday & that lot are a team of giants compared to us. What they lack in skill they more than make up for in presence. We're screwed until we match up physically. You can't even kick them off the park if you can't catch them - they're quicker & stronger than us all over the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,263 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Who are these players he knows and trusts ? Are they out of contract ? Will their clubs be prepared to sell ? Are they suited to the Scottish game ? Are they players in the Quatar League ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,259 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Great so rather than having a team full of lower league English players who are Warburton & McParlands mates we will have a squad that is full of lower league Portugese players and Caixinha's mates. It's an absolute embarasament that just two years after doing it we are in a position where we need to rebuild the entire squad again. Maybe theres some greek or romanian superstars available we dont know about... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, mearns loyal said: Windass is a pussy. At 48 his old man would have put in a better shift yesterday... He used to play round here. The vibe from players & coaching staff is complete astonishment that he's got as far as us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, insider said: I'd listen to offers for any of them. A lot of them are probably decent players for smaller clubs but don't have the mentality to play for us. A fiver would get you the whole squad and a cup of coffee Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamcarvel9 87 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 hour ago, DBBTB said: Great so rather than having a team full of lower league English players who are Warburton & McParlands mates we will have a squad that is full of lower league Portugese players and Caixinha's mates. It's an absolute embarasament that just two years after doing it we are in a position where we need to rebuild the entire squad again. See in fairness to Warburton from the 1st pre season he had very little time to "rebuild". To me it wasn't a rebuild, it was get players in asap that he could trust to get us rolling so we could win promotion. This summer was extremely poor in recruitment. We are now where we need to be, back in Europe. This for me is where the building/rebuilding of the squad starts Poor phrasing in where we need to be, what I mean by that I'd in terms of building a better squad, to then get to the next step of winning the league and getting into Champions League Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,037 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, KingKirk said: I'll be honest I think Pedro will get a player budget of around 10million this summer. Based on player sales etc As poor as they have been clubs down south can afford to pay 1-2 million without blinking It's not a case of clubs down south being able to afford to pay 1-2 m, the question is why on earth would they when very, very few of the players would be seen as desirable Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,864 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Amato said: It's not a case of clubs down south being able to afford to pay 1-2 m, the question is why on earth would they when very, very few of the players would be seen as desirable low risk English players cheap considering the level of transfer fee's flying about down there even at championship level Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,037 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, KingKirk said: low risk English players cheap considering the level of transfer fee's flying about down there even at championship level If I was managing a Championship team I wouldn't consider most of the duds in our team low risk to be honest. I hope you're right though, can see it being the only way Pedro is going to get money to spend Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,658 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 That article is batshit crazy stuff Never ceases to amaze me how some journos earn a living Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, WWTC said: Im not providing a link for these cunts. Fraser Wilsons been smokin crack again. Pedro Caixinha faces major Rangers headache over player clearout Thirteen players are contracted to the club for two or more years – and six of them are there until 2020. BYFRASER WILSONDARREN COONEY 13:23, 30 APR 2017 Pedro Caixinha faces a rebuilding job of epic proportions in the summer as he attempts to turn Rangers into a credible force. The Portuguese spoke of his transfer plans in the immediate aftermath of another annihilation at the hands of Celtic . Caixinha hinted he will sign players he knows, men with whom he has previously worked – guys he can trust. But bringing in new faces is one thing. Perhaps the biggest task he faces will be to clear out players he does not want. And the scale of that task can be laid bare with the sheer number who are contracted for two or more years. Caixinha has a huge rebuilding job ahead of him(Photo: SNS) Of the 24 players in the first-team squad, 13 have deals until 2019 or longer and six are tied to the club until 2020. Andy Halliday, Jason Holt, Michael O’Halloran all have three more years left on their contracts and are paid wages few potential suitors would be able to match. Having stars on extended deals is good news if they are assets. But if they are surplus to requirements those contracts can become onerous. Wes Foderingham – May 2019 The keeper has been one of the few to earn pass marks this season, and was the main reason why Rangers limited Celtic to just two goals in the Scottish Cup semi-final last week. One to keep? Definite. Jak Alnwick – May 2020 Foderingham’s understudy has yet to feature for the first team since being signed in January for a fee of around £200,000. One to keep? Who knows? Philippe Senderos – out of contract in May Perhaps Mark Warburton’s worst signing, the Swiss defender has been an unmitigated disaster. One to keep? No. Danny Wilson – May 2018 The defender suffers from inconsistency. At times he looks like he might be returning to the form that saw him signed by Liverpool. But he was ragdolled all over the park on Saturday. One to keep? Probably. Clint Hill has been good for Rangers Clint Hill – May 2017 Like Foderingham he has been one of the few performers this campaign but at 38 Caixinha will surely be looking for a new centre-back. One to keep? Probably not. Rob Kiernan – May 2018 It’s hard to know whether the centre-back has had a season from Hell or is just not good enough. Given he was exposed in last season’s Scottish Cup Final by Hibs, it’s probably the latter. One to keep? For the remainder of his contract but no more. David Bates – May 2018 The young defender has something about him, although he is still raw. One to keep? Yes. Wallace is adored by the fans Lee Wallace – May 2019 Rangers’ captain is great going forward but susceptible at the back. But as a stalwart of the Journey, he is highly thought of by the Light Blue legions. One to keep? Yes. James Tavernier – May 2019 Like Wallace, he is attacking threat but is poorer than the former Hearts star at defending. However, he is perhaps one of the few players on the club’s books who would interest English Championship clubs. One to keep? Borderline. Lee Hodson – May 2019 The Northern Ireland international is the club’s top defending full-back and Rangers’ right side operates best when he is behind Tavernier. One to keep? Yes. Halliday has endured a poor season (Photo: SNS Group) Andy Halliday – May 2020 After a good season in the Championship, Halliday has struggled with the step-up and has become a target of criticism from the fans. One to keep? Might just be stuck with him. Emerson Hyndman – loan May 2017 The midfielder looks a player all right but the problem is he’s not Rangers’ player. He’ll be heading back to Bournemouth next month. One to keep? Caixinha would love to. Jordan Rossiter has been out for most of the season Jordan Rossiter – May 2020 The forgotten man of Ibrox. Big things were expected of Rossiter when he signed from Liverpool last summer but a series of injuries have kept the former England Under 19 captain sidelined since August. Caixinha has said he will get a fresh start next season though. One to keep? Looks likely. Jason Holt – May 2020 The former Hearts man has been a regular under Caixinha but in the big games has been part of a pedestrian midfield. One to keep? Might be stuck with him. Jon Toral – loan May 2017 The Arsenal loanee has looked good in spells but will soon be returning to the Gunners and probably hasn't had enough of an impact to convince Caixinha to make a move. One to sign? No. Niko Kranjcar has returned to full training (Photo: SNS Group) Niko Kranjcar – May 2018 It's been a tough season for the Croatian midfielder. After a slow start he was beginning to show glimpses of his previous best before a season-ending knee injury in October. One to keep? Probably. Josh Windass – May 2019 The summer signing from Accrington Stanley has struggled to make an impact at Ibrox. Used primarily off the bench Windass, at best, has flattered to deceive but still has two years left on his contract. A headache for Caixinha. One to keep? Only for remainder of his contract. Hot and cold (Photo: SNS Group) Harry Forrester – May 2019 On his day he can be an absolute nuisance to opposition defences. But like so many of his team-mates the former Doncaster attacking midfielder has blown hot and cold. One to keep? Probably. Joe Dodoo – May 2020 A bit of an enigma. Dodoo has looked devastating at times like after coming off the bench in the recent 3-0 win at Pittodrie. But more often than not he's been anonymous. One to keep? Only if it's too expensive to do otherwise. Barrie McKay – May 2018 Benched in the main part by Caixinha but McKay remains the most valuable asset at Ibrox. The winger is one of the best in the league on his day but struggles for consistency. One to keep? Definitely. Big deal: O’Halloran (Photo: SNS) Michael O’Halloran – May 2020 A huge decision for Caixinha to make in the summer. The winger was in the bad books after failing to turn up for Under-20 duty a fortnight ago but has since returned to the fold as an unused sub. He still has three years to run on his contract but could potentially attract a fee with his stock still high in Scotland. One to keep? Summer exit on the cards. Martyn Waghorn – May 2018 Waghorn tore up the Championship as Warburton's side stormed to the title a year ago. But he not just lost his touch in front of goal on the top tier, he has become something of a joke figure for opposition fans too. Not helped by his chip shop confrontation with a group of cheeky schoolkids of course. One to keep? No. Garner has been an expensive flop (Photo: SNS Group) Joe Garner – May 2019 His early status as cult hero for the Ibrox faithful has quickly turned to £1.8m headless chicken. Eight goals in 31 appearances is hardly a brilliant return. One to keep? Probably unless Gers can recoup a sizable portion of their fee by selling. Kenny Miller – May 2018 Player of the year at 37 says it all. The standout performer of a poor season and a new one-year deal bagged last week. One to keep? Unquestionably yes. So to summarise, we're keeping most of them ?? Every one of them are fucking garbage and better not play for after this season .Including our hopeless goalkeeper who has been found out these last few games .Everyone of them have proved from Cup final to yesterday ,that they a complete losers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarvelmarvel 796 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 now it becomes clearer why so many were hanging about the lower leagues and had a cv that was too long,l loans and change of club every couple of seasons, are you watching Forest? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,491 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: A fiver would get you the whole squad and a cup of coffee and change! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller 1,569 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Is Wallace really adored by all fans? Any i speak to, and i agree, think he is a overated liability who should be punted at the first opportunity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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