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Against Hamilton in Pedros first game he went with 2 up front and got the ball forward at pace and I thought at last, since then he's gone to 1 up front and personally I don't think it's working, the 1 up front no matter who it is finds himself isolated, the wide men don't come inside and no one from midfield gets forward and the result of this we are creating very few chances as the other night proved - keeper in a very bad team made 2 saves. Me personally I would like to see him abandon the 1 up and go back to a 4 4 2 and get the ball forward a bit faster.

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Give it a chance. He's not even had one game with his own team of half decent players yet. Be better asking this question in a couple of months when the players he thinks can play the way he wants are playing and have been for a while.

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1 minute ago, Inigo said:

Give it a chance. He's not even had one game with his own team of half decent players yet. Be better asking this question in a couple of months when the players he thinks can play the way he wants are playing and have been for a while.

Couple of months, pfttt.

He gets one game with them all playing and that's it. You've much to learn my Spanish friend.

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Just now, KBOO72 said:

Don't see us having any success with this current 433 formation. Don't like it at all. We don't have the quality up top to make it work imo regardless of who our central striker is. 

We never played a 433

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I'm usually an advocate of fluid formations and 4-4-3's that merge into 4-2-3-1's and all that hipster, guardian-reading rubbish but we just don't have the players to play that way and still score loads of goals. Give it time obviously, we're basically starting from scratch again, but I'm starting to think we'd be much better off with two up front against the weaker teams home and abroad. We played some good stuff on Thursday but didn't make enough chances just because we couldn't create the space - part of that is because Waghorn was just very poor, but part of that is a long-term problem with us playing one striker who ends up getting isolated and we in turn end up with too few bodies in the box trying to get on the end of things.

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Although the game was a bit of a damp squib with no intensity and no doubt better to come from the team there were a few issues I felt will shine through even when the team is up to speed..........to me it looked too similar to MWs style, slow and laboured build up against a packed defence. We struggled to get at them through the middle and while its clear Pedro wants to use the width more and get the ball in early, even the training footage has shown this, what good is it when we have 1 guy up top marked by 3 or 4 of the opposition ?

At this momemt in time it looks like we will be facing the same old 10 behind the ball and if our play style resembles Thursday night then we are going to struggle breaking that down......I agree with earlier comment in the game v Accies when we went 2 up top and were far more direct and able to mix it up.

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10 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Couple of months, pfttt.

He gets one game with them all playing and that's it. You've much to learn my Spanish friend.

Agua por favor.

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I've always said i like 2 strikers that form a good partnership but 4-2-3-1 has its own benefits too I just feel we lose our shape too much.

On Thursday Kranjcar very much lived up to the quarterback reference that was used by Pedro to describe what he'd do for us this year which was fine against this team but I think based on what I've seen of Pena he's going to get himself in the box more plus I'd like to see the opposing winger attack the back post for crosses.

Once we know our squad and they have some time to settle we'll see if the formation is working or not.

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Too much obsession with starting formations being better than others. We should line up to beat the opposition so it depends on who and where we are playing whether we start start with a 442/ 433/4141/ 4231/ 352 formation. That would be my approach. 

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