beararse 6,375 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Until we address both full back positions we will struggle, no matter who we play....as we did tonight. If our full backs can't attack down the wings and/or defend when required then we'll always be up against it, regardless of the quality of opposition. It's no coincidence successful teams tend to have fantastic full backs so it shouldn't come as a surprise that we're struggling when you consider the shite we currently have at our disposal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,718 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Final ball is horrendous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Until we get a manager who knows what the fuck he's doing then we are fucked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Wallace deserves to be left back this season. Left back in fucking Luxembourg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Actually thought Tav was one of our better players tonight! Still not sure if there's a player in there though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Both need replaced, but the manager probably thinks they don't. Therein lies at least one problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB72 1,525 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Still think midfield is a bigger problem no one will take a man on and beat him they just look for a side way ball and then eventually it will go back to the defense rinse and repeat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariuszAdamczuk 548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Your full backs either need to be good defenders or good going forward, ours are neither Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Even when Tav isn't playing well he always seems to still have a moment or two in a game where he creates a great chance. How Windass missed though and how Tav missed his header I'll never know. Wallace's final ball is generally pretty poor however IMO. Defensively? How long do you have...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I can see Tavernier being chucked this season and Wallace being sold next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 701 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DariuszAdamczuk said: Your full backs either need to be good defenders or good going forward, ours are neither The one thing we manage to do consistently (sure it's through pure luck rather than design) is get full backs high up the park. That they are both so useless when they get there, as well as being horrible defenders, makes them liabilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariuszAdamczuk 548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Hilly86 said: The one thing we manage to do consistently (sure it's through pure luck rather than design) is get full backs high up the park. That they are both so useless when they get there, as well as being horrible defenders, makes them liabilities. So much this, it's like Wallace is on a rail on that touch line he's only capable of moving forwards or backwards in a straight line and everyone in the stadium knows what he's going to do as soon as he gets the ball. His end product is and nearly always has been non existent. Tavernier is just an athlete, never a footballer and much like Wallace produces very little end product Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 701 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DariuszAdamczuk said: So much this, it's like Wallace is on a rail on that touch line he's only capable of moving forwards or backwards in a straight line and everyone in the stadium knows what he's going to do as soon as he gets the ball. His end product is and nearly always has been non existent. Tavernier is just an athlete, never a footballer and much like Wallace produces very little end product Everyone in the stadium including Wallace himself. We get the fear, he just seems to panic. It doesn't help either that there's rarely more than one person to aim at, even when they do manage to fluke a decent cross. Their defending is plain indefensible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariuszAdamczuk 548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Hilly86 said: Everyone in the stadium including Wallace himself. We get the fear, he just seems to panic. It doesn't help either that there's rarely more than one person to aim at, even when they do manage to fluke a decent cross. Their defending is plain indefensible. When we're defending you can guarantee they'll both be at least 5/6 yards away from where they're supposed to be usually tucked inside our box hiding from their men and allowing crosses in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,159 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, B1872 said: Final ball is horrendous What final ball? It's a fucking miracle if we even get ourselves in a decent position for a final ball. Utter fucking garbage Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant_1986 73 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Wallace bursts forward, normally beats a man, and then every time without fail will pass it backwards towards the midfield. The whole loyalty thing should never be ignored, but he's got worse every season with us. In his first season he was unstoppable down the left, what happened? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Our full backs are better going forward than defending and the early signs from our new wingers are not good. I wonder if Pedro will consider a back 3 of our two Portuguese boys with Wilson or Bates, tav and lee wide, jack Pena and niko/dorrans midfield and then any two of the strikers up top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,226 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 What fucking fullbacks. We dont have a fullback who knows how to defend. First job of a full/wingback is to fucking defend end of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubie92 1,074 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 29 minutes ago, Supersonic said: Wallace deserves to be left back this season. Left back in fucking Luxembourg. Judging by tonight's performance, he's not good enough for the Luxembourg National Division. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 701 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DariuszAdamczuk said: When we're defending you can guarantee they'll both be at least 5/6 yards away from where they're supposed to be usually tucked inside our box hiding from their men and allowing crosses in They're not the most cowardly when defending but cowards all the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariuszAdamczuk 548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hilly86 said: They're not the most cowardly when defending but cowards all the same. Defensively I've never forgiven Tav for his disgraceful performance in the new year old firm game, one of the worst defensive displays I've ever witnessed. He was so bad that day that Rob Kiernan was shouting at him, that's a sure sign that you're in the wrong line of work Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 701 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, ScotBear said: Our full backs are better going forward than defending and the early signs from our new wingers are not good. I wonder if Pedro will consider a back 3 of our two Portuguese boys with Wilson or Bates, tav and lee wide, jack Pena and niko/dorrans midfield and then any two of the strikers up top. The signings would suggest not, but he has to do something to get a supply to players in the box. Kranjcar breathing out his arse yards behind play and Miller going walkabout slowly won't do it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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