Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 This was one of the most frustrating things for me today. Every single time Jack and Dorrans picked up the ball in the centre it went out wide (where inevitably it led to a cross being swung in to no-one). If this is Pedro's instructions then it needs changed. Dorrans is one of very few in this squad that is capable of taking a man on and beating him. Watching the ball being sprayed out wide constantly reminded me of Barry Ferguson in his second spell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 62,160 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Naw sub him is the way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Don't know why he's playing so deep. Davis didn't do that when we played a 4-4-2 under Walter, we do not need two CDM's at home to anyone. Let him get forward. In saying that, maybe it's because our defence get's penetrated more than a pornstar. But if that is the case then tell our FB's to sit tight instead, especially Wallace, all he does is give the ball back to their keeper after a cross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 thought him Jack Cardoso and Alves were the only ones who got pass marks today Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, ben51 said: Don't know why he's playing so deep. Davis didn't do that when we played a 4-4-2 under Walter, we do not need two CDM's at home to anyone. Let him get forward. In saying that, maybe it's because our defence get's penetrated more than a pornstar. But if that is the case then tell our FB's to sit tight instead, especially Wallace, all he does is give the ball back to their keeper after a cross. I've noticed Tavernier is a wee bit more disciplined so far this season, but Wallace still gets caught out of position a ridiculous amount of times. He needs replaced. If we had two decent, well disciplined full backs, we could play a diamond in the middle with only Jack sitting deep and Dorrans sitting in behind the two strikers. Sign a fucking full back Pedro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,151 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If we are gonna persist wi the pishy 4-4-1-1 then with the players we have he should be one playing off of Morelos. Play 4-3-3, leave Jack to protect back 4 and let candeias, Morelos, Dorrans and hopefully 2 new players do the attacking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: This was one of the most frustrating things for me today. Every single time Jack and Dorrans picked up the ball in the centre it went out wide (where inevitably it led to a cross being swung in to no-one). If this is Pedro's instructions then it needs changed. Dorrans is one of very few in this squad that is capable of taking a man on and beating him. Watching the ball being sprayed out wide constantly reminded me of Barry Ferguson in his second spell. Part of the problem imo was that the wide midfielders were absolutely garbage. Tav seems to be more positive than Candieas and at least tries to get to the bye line whilst Windass is just plain dumb. Dorrans was running all over the shop like Ferguson used to do and trying to win the game on his own. There is no point going through the tactics all week then having players suiting themselves on matchday. We need a winger on the left with pace who can cross the ball and need to drop Miller and probably Candias too. For me these three guys/positions are our weakest areas and we need to get better in, and quickly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Jack and Dorrans have really solidified midfield, however, neither appear to have the creative streak we are missing. Miller off for Nico, leaving Dorrans and Jack in midfield was the obvious option today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bearsden bear said: Part of the problem imo was that the wide midfielders were absolutely garbage. Tav seems to be more positive than Candieas and at least tries to get to the bye line whilst Windass is just plain dumb. Dorrans was running all over the shop like Ferguson used to do and trying to win the game on his own. There is no point going through the tactics all week then having players suiting themselves on matchday. We need a winger on the left with pace who can cross the ball and need to drop Miller and probably Candias too. For me these three guys/positions are our weakest areas and we need to get better in, and quickly! It's taking a while but I think once Tav and Candeias click they'll work well together. Both put in plenty of decent crosses today but no-one was on the end of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_85 659 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I was expecting big things from Dorrans this season and I have been major underwhelmed. Last 2 games at home he has done absolutely fuck all. Hopefully comes good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 549 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 We are not good enough to play 4-4-2 time for rossiter jack and dorrans to play in a 4-5-1 with the latter supporting morelos imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: It's taking a while but I think once Tav and Candeias click they'll work well together. Both put in plenty of decent crosses today but no-one was on the end of them. Thought they worked well in the pre-season games and I was impressed with Candeas' directness and willingness to hit bye line & get cross in in those games. The game vs hibs & again today he seemed to look inside or back and didn't try to get in behind until vey late in game. I hope he is the player that played Marseille and not the one from last week/today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_85 659 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Jackal said: We are not good enough to play 4-4-2 time for rossiter jack and dorrans to play in a 4-5-1 with the latter supporting morelos imo. I don't think we need to play rossiter and Jack in the same team. I would like to see the team when we have everyone fit the 5 across midfield being Windass Niko/Pena Jack Dorrans Candeias Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza010 393 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 should be played directly behind the strikers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 549 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, james_85 said: I don't think we need to play rossiter and Jack in the same team. I would like to see the team when we have everyone fit the 5 across midfield being Windass Niko/Pena Jack Dorrans Candeias Niko has had a full pre season and provided an absolute horrific display from the bench today. High tempo games he's useless! Guy was finished in America. Pena situation speaks for itself there looks like no positive outcome regarding him getting fit and stamping his authority on a first team jersey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,679 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 3-5-2 Jack and one of Holt/Rossiter alongside him giving him the license to move forward more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf007 52 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Think maybe you're right in Dorrans. Someone said in today's match thread, take Miller off and put Rossiter in with Jack in midfield then push Dorrans up behind in an attacking midfield role. Dorrans def has ability to beat a man and has energy and desire to support both midfield and striker, maybe that what Pedro had planned for Pena but he appears to be crap so why not use Dorrans instead? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rino 1,220 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Captain Hilts said: This was one of the most frustrating things for me today. Every single time Jack and Dorrans picked up the ball in the centre it went out wide (where inevitably it led to a cross being swung in to no-one). If this is Pedro's instructions then it needs changed. Dorrans is one of very few in this squad that is capable of taking a man on and beating him. Watching the ball being sprayed out wide constantly reminded me of Barry Ferguson in his second spell. Said this today at the game that I thought Dorrans was meant to be a box to box midfielder, he should be pushing into the last 3rd telling that cunt miller to get up front and support Morelos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo17 1,388 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Captain Hilts said: I've noticed Tavernier is a wee bit more disciplined so far this season, but Wallace still gets caught out of position a ridiculous amount of times. He needs replaced. If we had two decent, well disciplined full backs, we could play a diamond in the middle with only Jack sitting deep and Dorrans sitting in behind the two strikers. Sign a fucking full back Pedro. I think candeias has really improved Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,725 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Haven't been particularly impressed by Dorrans so far. Partly due to the system maybe, partly due to poor play. Thought Jack was good today and Dorrans was a bit ordinary... again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,364 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Jack and Dorrans have really solidified midfield, however, neither appear to have the creative streak we are missing. Miller off for Nico, leaving Dorrans and Jack in midfield was the obvious option today. Fully agree. Pedro must watch a different game from me because again Miller was a wasted jersey and replacing him (agree with it being Niko, shite as he was), seemed so obvious. As did Miller for Rossiter last week. I've really tried to back Pedro but his sticking by Miller and stupid substitutions are making it so so difficult. As for Dorrans. Thought he was poor today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Fully agree. Pedro must watch a different game from me because again Miller was a wasted jersey and replacing him (agree with it being Niko, shite as he was), seemed so obvious. As did Miller for Rossiter last week. I've really tried to back Pedro but his sticking by Miller and stupid substitutions are making it so so difficult. As for Dorrans. Thought he was poor today. Dorrans, IMHO, was effective today but is a bit too similar to Jack. That likeness solidifies our midfield but adds no creativity, I was hoping Pena could provide that spark, perhaps next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,643 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 54 minutes ago, Inigo said: Haven't been particularly impressed by Dorrans so far. Partly due to the system maybe, partly due to poor play. Thought Jack was good today and Dorrans was a bit ordinary... again. Agree ,can't see what the fuss was over dorrans Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Dorrans was superb against Motherwell. He started the Hibs game well but got severely outnumbered after Jack was sent off. He wasn't great today but he will be a very good player for us if used correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Captain Hilts said: It's taking a while but I think once Tav and Candeias click they'll work well together. Both put in plenty of decent crosses today but no-one was on the end of them. Don't be offended by this, but ARE they decent crosses, if no one's on the end of them? 2 things come into play here & both are remedied by hard work in training. You get your forward to make a run (near, far post, whichever) & you get your wide man to hit that area. Or Your wide man is likely to put in one or two sorts of cross, so your forward, instinctively, gets into position to get on the end of them. Funny how the defenders (largely) managed to find a way to get in the way, as opposed to our forwards finding a way to beat them to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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