denya 1,661 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, bordersbear said: He had a drink problem! Just like loads of people that lead normal lives only his drinking took over. What part of being an alcoholic involves putting your wages up your nose? Is just someone trying to be funny/xenaphobic like always. Just because he is Mexican they judt think "cocaine" is same when people talk about Colombia. The truth is the drug addicts and cocaine addicts are in Scotland and Europe and not here. Also people say Peña was shit player never see him before when playing in LigaMX and for Mexíco. Yes he have problem when in Rangers and not play much or not play very great but just because he did not play great in Rangers does not mean he was not a good player. Anyway he is gone from the club so people can now forget and stop speaking about him. JCDBigBear and Johnstone Burgh 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, denya said: Is just someone trying to be funny/xenaphobic like always. Just because he is Mexican they judt think "cocaine" is same when people talk about Colombia. The truth is the drug addicts and cocaine addicts are in Scotland and Europe and not here. Also people say Peña was shit player never see him before when playing in LigaMX and for Mexíco. Yes he have problem when in Rangers and not play much or not play very great but just because he did not play great in Rangers does not mean he was not a good player. Anyway he is gone from the club so people can now forget and stop speaking about him. It's not funny though. The guy has a problem with alcohol and all of a sudden on here he is a mad drug snorting junkie. If he was dyslexic and couldn't spell his own name would he then be labeled as a junkie? Both are ailments. Both can be overcome with willpower and help. JCDBigBear and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup2 1,542 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I don't care if he has a drink or drug problem . He's been paid a lot of money as a Rangers player when we could not afford the luxury and we have had nothing to show from it. Glad to see the back of him as he can't seem to last at any club . berkshirebear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 7,868 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 World class at getting bang on it! 😵 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, surfsup2 said: I don't care if he has a drink or drug problem . He's been paid a lot of money as a Rangers player when we could not afford the luxury and we have had nothing to show from it. Glad to see the back of him as he can't seem to last at any club . Totally agree. He should never have been signed. My issue was him being labeled as a junkie without proof after he had said he has a drink problem. surfsup2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, bordersbear said: Totally agree. He should never have been signed. My issue was him being labeled as a junkie without proof after he had said he has a drink problem. Depends how you interpret the word junkie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
denya 1,661 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, bordersbear said: It's not funny though. The guy has a problem with alcohol and all of a sudden on here he is a mad drug snorting junkie. If he was dyslexic and couldn't spell his own name would he then be labeled as a junkie? Both are ailments. Both can be overcome with willpower and help. I know it is not funny. I am saying the person who wrote it was trying to be funny/xenophobic. He trying to say he is cocaine addict only because he is from Mexíco. Its stupid. JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,860 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, denya said: . Yes he have problem when in Rangers and not play much or not play very great but just because he did not play great in Rangers does not mean he was not a good player. It's easy to take that view and not hate the waster when your support of the club is checking out our results on Google and catching a few games on telly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Whoever wasted the money on him and Pedro should have been sacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: It's easy to take that view and not hate the waster when your support of the club is checking out our results on Google and catching a few games on telly Does that make Denya any less a Rangers man than you because his circumstances don't allow him to attend games? JCDBigBear and Johnstone Burgh 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Smile said: Whoever wasted the money on him and Pedro should have been sacked. Without doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,860 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, bordersbear said: Does that make Denya any less a Rangers man than you because his circumstances don't allow him to attend games? Any less a Rangers man ? No , where did I say that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Any less a Rangers man ? No , where did I say that ? Your comment of it's easy to take that view when you check Google for the results and watch a few games on telly kind of inferred it m8. RDB14 and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Hope he sorts himself out, just wasn't cut out for life in Scotland - doubt Poland will be any better for him. Ended badly for all concerned, agreed whoever took him on needs a serious look at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,860 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, bordersbear said: Your comment of it's easy to take that view when you check Google for the results and watch a few games on telly kind of inferred it m8. I just think it's harder too take when your handing over most of your money each month too the club and it's going out the door too a cunt like that ,didn't like his shite about just because he was shite here doesn't mean he is shite , what he done while at Rangers is all I care about , that doesn't make anyone a bigger Rangers man or anything though imo , Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
denya 1,661 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: It's easy to take that view and not hate the waster when your support of the club is checking out our results on Google and catching a few games on telly I watch most games on internet because football in Scotland is not on tv here and I have seen him play at Chivas and for Mexíco before he go to Scotland this is different to the people on here who only see him.play few games for Rangers. Many players that are good in the past have not play amazing at evrry club for different reason but many people here think he is shit because he did noy play good for Rangers in only a few games of seeing him and never see him in different teams. RDB14 and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,503 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, bordersbear said: It's not funny though. The guy has a problem with alcohol and all of a sudden on here he is a mad drug snorting junkie. If he was dyslexic and couldn't spell his own name would he then be labeled as a junkie? Both are ailments. Both can be overcome with willpower and help. 👍 I don't know of many families who haven't been ..... in some way or another .... had members who have been affected by Alcoholism or Drug Addiction ... and in some cases both curses. The hardest part is seeing that otherwise good person go down that road and lose their respect and much more in most cases. Anyone who has been down that path and has made it out the other side is to be commended ... and people need to understand that it is no joke for the sufferer or their family. To say it is self inflicted is to a degree correct ... to begin with ... but both ailments have serious progressive addictive traits that are self evident and without the help of others who have also severely suffered from the affects of both "drugs" and a sincere desire to stop .... the cycle with continue ..... as both have no respect for colour ... creed .... rich or poor ... it can happen to anyone in any walk of life. As far as Pena goes ... he is at least trying to address his Alcoholism problem ... he may not have done the business for us due to his drinking problem .... but he is gone now ... that should be the end of it. JCDBigBear and Inspector Sams 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,860 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, denya said: I watch most games on internet because football in Scotland is not on tv here and I have seen him play at Chivas and for Mexíco before he go to Scotland this is different to the people on here who only see him.play few games for Rangers. Many players that are good in the past have not play amazing at evrry club for different reason but many people here think he is shit because he did noy play good for Rangers in only a few games of seeing him and never see him in different teams. Yeah but what he done while at Rangers is all I and I'm sure most would be the same care about , he has cost us a fucking fortune and is a waster , and I hope that if he plays another game for any other team that he gets a career ender Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: I just think it's harder too take when your handing over most of your money each month too the club and it's going out the door too a cunt like that ,didn't like his shite about just because he was shite here doesn't mean he is shite , what he done while at Rangers is all I care about , that doesn't make anyone a bigger Rangers man or anything though imo , I get your point , but at some point pena was good enough to get capped for Mexico, only we didn't see that player. We saw the alcoholic one. JCDBigBear and ger4life_1872 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bobby Hume said: 👍 I don't know of many families who haven't been ..... in some way or another .... had members who have been affected by Alcoholism or Drug Addiction ... and in some cases both curses. The hardest part is seeing that otherwise good person go down that road and lose their respect and much more in most cases. Anyone who has been down that path and has made it out the other side is to be commended ... and people need to understand that it is no joke for the sufferer or their family. To say it is self inflicted is to a degree correct ... to begin with ... but both ailments have serious progressive addictive traits that are self evident and without the help of others who have also severely suffered from the affects of both "drugs" and a sincere desire to stop .... the cycle with continue ..... as both have no respect for colour ... creed .... rich or poor ... it can happen to anyone in any walk of life. As far as Pena goes ... he is at least trying to address his Alcoholism problem ... he may not have done the business for us due to his drinking problem .... but he is gone now ... that should be the end of it. Good post JCDBigBear and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Yeah but what he done while at Rangers is all I and I'm sure most would be the same care about , he has cost us a fucking fortune and is a waster , and I hope that if he plays another game for any other team that he gets a career ender You are one sad little individual son. I only hope you never have to deal with friends or family that have addiction problems because you certainly wouldn't help them. JCDBigBear and RDB14 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,860 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, bordersbear said: You are one sad little individual son. I only hope you never have to deal with friends or family that have addiction problems because you certainly wouldn't help them. I'm not your son ya fucking weirdo , pm me if you wanna discuss anything further as too not drag the thread off topic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshirebear 3,048 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Pena has ripped the piss out of our club and there's people on here trying to defend him.... ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulbrian11 433 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, berkshirebear said: Pena has ripped the piss out of our club and there's people on here trying to defend him.... He has a tan and a fancy foreign name. People are taken in by that sort of thing, especially when he showed brief, very brief, hints of talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,865 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Jeffrey said: Genuinely the worst signing in our history. You obviously didn't see Daniel Prodan play for us. (Actually nobody did as he never kicked a ball for us) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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