WWTC 2,291 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, mearns loyal said: Don’t see Goldson ever getting a move to Liverpool tbh. That should tell you something… So because he got a move to Liverpool he was a better player than Goldson? Is Danny Wilson a better player then? Was Charlie Adam a better football player than Steven Davis aswell? Malkytfp1, Steelydan1690, nik2402 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,798 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, WWTC said: So because he got a move to Liverpool he was a better player than Goldson? Is Danny Wilson a better player then? Was Charlie Adam a better football player than Steven Davis aswell? Who mentioned Wilson or Adam? Fact is no way is Goldson going to a top six club in England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,579 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, mearns loyal said: Gough Butcher Moore Amoruso Kyrgiakos Cuellar Bougherra Weir To name a few that in my opinion were all better and ultimately were all replaced. He’s the best we’ve had for a period of time but in no way is he as irreplaceable as some folk seem to think… All internationals, plenty costly to purchase, and played in great teams. There's definitely better defenders in there but none that offer some of the things Goldson does - 50+ games season after season, and a pinpoint long ball that regularly creates one on one's. He's also playing with regularly changing partners. We will replace him, but he's got qualities his replacement simply won't have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,291 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, mearns loyal said: Who mentioned Wilson or Adam? Fact is no way is Goldson going to a top six club in England I did, as your suggesting Kyrgiakos must be better than Goldson because he played for Liverpool. Well so did the two mentioned. Liverpool finished 7th the season they signed him btw. And the fact is, as the previous poster pointed out, if you think he was a better player than Goldson you need your eyes tested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,798 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: All internationals, plenty costly to purchase, and played in great teams. There's definitely better defenders in there but none that offer some of the things Goldson does - 50+ games season after season, and a pinpoint long ball that regularly creates one on one's. He's also playing with regularly changing partners. We will replace him, but he's got qualities his replacement simply won't have. Agreed regarding his passing which has of late been spot on however, I’m sure that whoever comes in will have qualities that Goldson doesn’t. His concentration imo drifts during games (at one point today the ball ran under his foot fortunately no-one was behind him) which is one of the qualities that would inhibit a move to one of the top epl clubs JograBear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, WWTC said: You dont think Goldson can get a move to a EPL team, even as back up? Seriously? If he could, you'd think he would have got the move last summer given our domestic record, going into his final year, we'd probably not have been hard to deal with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, WWTC said: I did, as your suggesting Kyrgiakos must be better than Goldson because he played for Liverpool. Well so did the two mentioned. Liverpool finished 7th the season they signed him btw. And the fact is, as the previous poster pointed out, if you think he was a better player than Goldson you need your eyes tested. Better overall player, no, better defender, yes Kyrgiakos played for a much weaker rangers team, against a much stronger tarrier team, he won more domestic honours and played at a higher level for us than goldson has, all in 3 years less than goldson has been at us Goldson for all his positive aspects, has been part of a squad now thats crumbled under pressure of expectancy 3 times out of 4 now, that will put off a lot of teams perhaps Or maybe he's just waiting for a certain team, fuck knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,291 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: If he could, you'd think he would have got the move last summer given our domestic record, going into his final year, we'd probably not have been hard to deal with We’ve no idea if thats the case, he was a mainstay in a league winning side trying to qualify for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,798 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, WWTC said: I did, as your suggesting Kyrgiakos must be better than Goldson because he played for Liverpool. Well so did the two mentioned. Liverpool finished 7th the season they signed him btw. And the fact is, as the previous poster pointed out, if you think he was a better player than Goldson you need your eyes tested. fuck all wrong with my eyes… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, WWTC said: We’ve no idea if thats the case, he was a mainstay in a league winning side trying to qualify for Europe. Point is if goldson wants a move back down south as people are saying, then he'd have jumped at the chance of one if it was there last summer, and told the club he wanted out and wasn't signing a new deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,579 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, mearns loyal said: Agreed regarding his passing which has of late been spot on however, I’m sure that whoever comes in will have qualities that Goldson doesn’t. His concentration imo drifts during games (at one point today the ball ran under his foot fortunately no-one was behind him) which is one of the qualities that would inhibit a move to one of the top epl clubs If Harry McGuire is worth tens of millions, more due to nationality than ability, then Goldson could be too. Its his age that's against him more than ability in terms of a move to a big club imo. That and the fact that nowadays the top 6 don't look for players who can ping passes like him as they play through the lines, and have huge squads so a 60 game a season player isn't as essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,579 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Point is if goldson wants a move back down south as people are saying, then he'd have jumped at the chance of one if it was there last summer, and told the club he wanted out and wasn't signing a new deal Or he waits til this summer and he, not Rangers, get the signing on fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,291 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Better overall player, no, better defender, yes Kyrgiakos played for a much weaker Rangers team, against a much stronger tarrier team, he won more domestic honours and played at a higher level for us than goldson has, all in 3 years less than goldson has been at us Goldson for all his positive aspects, has been part of a squad now thats crumbled under pressure of expectancy 3 times out of 4 now, that will put off a lot of teams perhaps Or maybe he's just waiting for a certain team, fuck knows If we beat Hearts they’ll literally have won the same honours, and considering where we were when we signed Goldson and the tim team he was up against - i’d say it’s debatable we were worse or they were better when Kygriakos was around. The squad crumbled, not just Goldson, and he’s shown in Europe he can play at a higher level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,291 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Point is if goldson wants a move back down south as people are saying, then he'd have jumped at the chance of one if it was there last summer, and told the club he wanted out and wasn't signing a new deal Why would he have done that when he’s just won the league and has a crack at Champions League qualification under the management that signed him? We might have kb’d offers. He can leave for free this summer and receive a hefty signing on fee also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,552 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nik2402 said: No one is irreplaceable. However if you think Kyrgiakos was better than Goldson you need your eyes tested. The Liverpool Kyrgiakos played for aren’t the same as modern day Liverpool tbf. SeparateEntityMyArse and WWTC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Or he waits til this summer and he, not Rangers, get the signing on fee. Big chance he takes though, if he had a move on the table last summer i think he takes it and forces us to take it But as ive said, i dobt think we had any bids last summer for any of our players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, WWTC said: Why would he have done that when he’s just won the league and has a crack at Champions League qualification under the management that signed him? We might have kb’d offers. He can leave for free this summer and receive a hefty signing on fee also. Instead he is going to leave when we could have another crack at the CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,104 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, WWTC said: If we beat Hearts they’ll literally have won the same honours, and considering where we were when we signed Goldson and the tim team he was up against - i’d say it’s debatable we were worse or they were better when Kygriakos was around. The squad crumbled, not just Goldson, and he’s shown in Europe he can play at a higher level. If we beat hearts, and then goldson will have had 4 years to kyrgiakos 18 months, In they 4 years goldson has been part of a squad thats lost to sheep twice, hearts, st mirren, tarriers, hibs, and st johnstone in cups Goldson was one of the people that crumbled, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,895 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 I love the stuff people get into arguments about on here Roy Hobbs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,579 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: I love the stuff people get into arguments about on here No cunts arguing, fuck off with that shite 😉 WWTC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik2402 1,404 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, mearns loyal said: Don’t see Goldson ever getting a move to Liverpool tbh. That should tell you something… 😂 fucking hell man. What a shocking argument. WWTC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,798 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, nik2402 said: 😂 fucking hell man. What a shocking argument. Not an argument tbh. Krygiakos who you don’t rate played for one of the top six English clubs and, I would argue, probably at a higher level for the majority of his career than, in my opinion, Goldson ever will. AEK Wolfsburg and Frankfurt being some of them. Throw in over 50 international caps and it’s difficult (imo) to put Goldson in the same bracket… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik2402 1,404 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, mearns loyal said: Not an argument tbh. Krygiakos who you don’t rate played for one of the top six English clubs and, I would argue, probably at a higher level for the majority of his career than, in my opinion, Goldson ever will. AEK Wolfsburg and Frankfurt being some of them. Throw in over 50 international caps and it’s difficult (imo) to put Goldson in the same bracket… I don’t really care what players do when they don’t play for Rangers. And Goldson is and will go down as a much better player than Krygiakos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,798 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, nik2402 said: I don’t really care what players do when they don’t play for Rangers. And Goldson is and will go down as a much better player than Krygiakos. In your opinion… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
285miles 515 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 The SPL doesn’t get as much attention and it’s assumed that players are of a lower quality or play well because it’s an easier league if an EPL top 6 club saw past the above and judged his record objectively they would be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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