Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: There is no circles to go around, just acknowledge that it was in no way shape or form good enough and that's that. The cup record wasn’t good enough however we won the trophy that mattered most and performed well in Europe restoring our reputation and raising finances, do you not agree? Turnberry18 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ianferguson said: I'll walk you through it and keep it simple for you. Despite All the shite Rangers lost the league by ONE old firm game, based on Gerrards old firm record overall and NINE games undefeated Beale is entitled to say he thinks we'd have won the league. You may have other agendas and you may not agree with his assertion but my only point is that Beale was entitled to his claim. My own point of view if you're even remotely interested is that Gerrard would have scraped us over the line had he stayed with probably at least one of old firm Victories being enough. It’s seven, not nine. My point of view is previous seasons mean fuck all because Celtic were better last season than any previous season Gerrard played them, and who’s to say that Gerrard doesn’t drop more points like he was doing anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: It’s seven, not nine. My point of view is previous seasons mean fuck all because celtic were better last season than any previous season Gerrard played them, and who’s to say that Gerrard doesn’t drop more points like he was doing anyway? Do you not think Rogers celtic team were better than what they have just now and with Gerrard at the helm we got the better of them eventually. Turnberry18 and ianferguson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Kylegib said: Do you not think Rogers celtic team were better than what they have just now and with Gerrard at the helm we got the better of them eventually. No Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: No Did Rogers team not win a treble undefeated and you think this present celtic team are better. I get you may not want to give Gerrard's old firm record credit but seriously? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kylegib said: Did Rogers team not win a treble undefeated and you think this present celtic team are better. I get you may not want to give Gerrard's old firm record credit but seriously? Was Gerrard here when he won a treble undefeated? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,030 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kylegib said: Do you not think Rogers celtic team were better than what they have just now and with Gerrard at the helm we got the better of them eventually. Player for player they were better but this team are winning just as much as Rodgers team did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,347 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kylegib said: The cup record wasn’t good enough however we won the trophy that mattered most and performed well in Europe restoring our reputation and raising finances, do you not agree? I agree on Europe, preferably I'd have rather we didn't completely capitulate after the winter break in 2019-20 than waiting another year for the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Was Gerrard here when he won a treble undefeated? I don't think so but the team he beat would largely have been the same players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: I agree on Europe, preferably I'd have rather we didn't completely capitulate after the winter break in 2019-20 than waiting another year for the league. We all would have but that's why we identified we needed more firepower and brought in Itten and Roofe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Player for player they were better but this team are winning just as much as Rodgers team did. Well we better get the right manager in place and start beating regularly again. Turnberry18 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kylegib said: I don't think so but the team he beat would largely have been the same players. And this is largely the same team as 55 and a team that got to a Euro final, but it’s not as good as it was then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,347 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kylegib said: We all would have but that's why we identified we needed more firepower and brought in Itten and Roofe. I don't think we'd have brought in both if we weren't convinced Alfie was offski but for whatever reason it just never happened. Worked out well for us in 2020-21 but I don't think it was by design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: And this is largely the same team as 55 and a team that got to a Euro final, but it’s not as good as it was then. Yeah that's largely because we've been poorly managed and play a horrendous style of football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,536 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: No Mate, they absolutely were better Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: I don't think we'd have brought in both if we weren't convinced Alfie was offski but for whatever reason it just never happened. Worked out well for us in 2020-21 but I don't think it was by design. I think it was identified that we were too reliant on Morelos and that's why both were signed I don't think it was because they thought Morelos could be away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,347 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Kylegib said: I think it was identified that we were too reliant on Morelos and that's why both were signed I don't think it was because they thought Morelos could be away. I think Gerrard was finished with Morelos after what happened before Tynecastle and then Covid happened and no-one was spending the kind of money anyone was hoping for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,618 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Mate, they absolutely were better I’m not having it. Rodgers’ first season aye, not his third Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: No Rogers team were better than Ange team, fact. Have a close look at tims v St Johnstone, Hertz, Motherwell, Dundee Utd and Ross County ,all tight and a few LATE winners. Credit that they've picked up points but very lucky on several occasions and just as bad as Rogers in Europe. Kylegib 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: I think Gerrard was finished with Morelos after what happened before Tynecastle and then Covid happened and no-one was spending the kind of money anyone was hoping for. You could be right as I remember Gerrard calling out Morelos a couple of times particularly on disciplinary issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,536 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: I’m not having it. Rodgers’ first season aye, not his third I don’t care what you’re having, they were a better side TheKingObv and Steelydan1690 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
real boydie9 17,701 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 14/11/2022 at 17:52, G.E.C. said: He comes across as someone that would send a Christmas card to himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I think people forget how poor we were when Gerrard took over. We went from being an absolute shambles to the Champions that stopped 10IAR and were highly respectable in Europe. The squad that got to the Europa final was completely built by Gerrard. graeme_4 and Kylegib 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, RDB14 said: I think people forget how poor we were when Gerrard took over. We went from being an absolute shambles to the Champions that stopped 10IAR and were highly respectable in Europe. The squad that got to the Europa final was completely built by Gerrard. Good luck with that opinion and I agree m8 but all the usual suspects will be along shortly to pick holes in your claim and go on about Malmo and his cup record etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer 1,122 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 15/11/2022 at 12:17, The Specky Liar said: What? Milson and all these guys,sport science etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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