Will The Referees Let Us Win The Cup This Season ? It Would Suit The Agenda.

[ForeverAndEver 71,498]

Brown and celtic are that protected stamps on him go unpunished lol 

[TheLawMan 6,240]

13 hours ago, tannerall said:

Call me cynical, but it is so fucking obvious Scottish referees have been leant on to stop us winning the league directly through the SFA,. The actions of the SFA encouraged and endorsed by higher politically minded haters who affiliate with a celtic, republican, socialist, catholic biased culture.

But now the tims have won a few trebles their main interest is in their possible 9th and 10th title. I believe refs will be encouraged in every way to fulfiil this with support from the SFA heirachy. 

However, the joker in the corrupt SFA pack is in my opinion, the cup competitions, cellic don't need them now  if they win the league, and the next one, then the next.....    Their fans and corrupt enablers will accept the tainted league titles.  However they, the other clubs, and the SFA will still want to, even need to bring in the blue pounds.    

And to bring in the blue pounds the last thing they want to do is have us Gers fans losing interest or boycotting, so I think they'll throw us the occasional filip by the way of the occasional cup trophy. 

Paranoid me ? No, I'm a down to earth, staunch hard working Scot, who has met a lot of people, and travelled the world a bit.    And one thing I know is that corruption abounds everywhere and that it's endemic in Scottish football to a stranglehold level.    

Most knowledgable fans are aware of the corruption in Eastern European states before the Iron Curtain fell,  the traditional corruption in Italian football that peaked around 20 years ago, the corrupt decisions in European football competitions in the 60s, 70s and 80s (Brian Clough knew, and called it).

I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable football fan, but I never believed that one of the worst, most shameful most blatant and obvious corruptions would be used against my very own football club in Scotland. 

Bad and sad times indeed, but let' s see how we get on against Hamilton in the cup........I'm expecting a much better refereeing performance, even neutral...................

 

Sorry to say but there is no wide conspiracy to stop us winning anything.  Ive said it loads of times that for every rant above from a Rangers fan, you will see the same rant naming the same refs by celtic fans.  They think all refs are Rangers supporting Masons and "we" think all refs are celtic supporters.

Its just nonsense to be honest.

Refereeing and being a linesman is an incredibly difficult job, especially the speed things happen at.  It is 100% humanly impossible to call tight offside decisions correctly.  The vast majority of the time, its a gut feeling from the linesman and essentially its a 50/50 guess.  They dont have enough eyes and VAR lines in their computerised brains to be able to process all the essential points to work it out.  Handball at celtic Park, also extremely difficult to call.

Of course there are in-explainable decisions like the rugby tackle on Morelos but the truth is they are few and far between.

I just dont buy it.

If we are good enough, we will win the league.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

6 minutes ago, TheLawMan said:

Sorry to say but there is no wide conspiracy to stop us winning anything.  Ive said it loads of times that for every rant above from a Rangers fan, you will see the same rant naming the same refs by celtic fans.  They think all refs are Rangers supporting Masons and "we" think all refs are celtic supporters.

Its just nonsense to be honest.

Refereeing and being a linesman is an incredibly difficult job, especially the speed things happen at.  It is 100% humanly impossible to call tight offside decisions correctly.  The vast majority of the time, its a gut feeling from the linesman and essentially its a 50/50 guess.  They dont have enough eyes and VAR lines in their computerised brains to be able to process all the essential points to work it out.  Handball at celtic Park, also extremely difficult to call.

Of course there are in-explainable decisions like the rugby tackle on Morelos but the truth is they are few and far between.

I just dont buy it.

If we are good enough, we will win the league.

We do it as a response to injustice. The taigs do it as is their MO and to harm us.

Most of these ref's are well experienced and no way is that level of inconsistency purely down to incompetency.

 

Can you explain why the scum and others get away with very obvious infringements when we don't. Alfie gets the rugby tackle and Davis pole axed in the same game and not a word? Every cunts saw it. Goldson gets persistently fouled and complains, he gets booked. The offender not a word. We do this shit, our players are gone and that's only a small snapshot.

in this shitehole, being good enough is not enough. You just have to be cheating malcontent green and grey hoopy scum bastard, no matter how shite you are.

[magic8ball 27,901]

We don’t get the 50/50s by law of averages we should get half of them ,refs are shite scared ,no other explanation 

[TheLawMan 6,240]

3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

We do it as a response to injustice. The taigs do it as is their MO and to harm us.

Most of these ref's are well experienced and no way is that level of inconsistency purely down to incompetency.

 

Can you explain why the scum and others get away with very obvious infringements when we don't. Alfie gets the rugby tackle and Davis pole axed in the same game and not a word? Every cunts saw it. Goldson gets persistently fouled and complains, he gets booked. The offender not a word. We do this shit, our players are gone and that's only a small snapshot.

in this shitehole, being good enough is not enough. You just have to be cheating malcontent green and grey hoopy scum bastard, no matter how shite you are.

I get as frustrated at these things as the next guy but it doesnt change my view there is no wide conspiracy.  As an example, i believe Buffalo was lucky to stay on the park during the Beaton game last year.  Then i dont think he should have been sent off against Motherwell or Aberdeen.  We get away with some things and we are on the bad side of others.  Its easy to remember the bad ones and overlook the ones we get away with.

Same with the other mob.

 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,724]

16 minutes ago, TheLawMan said:

I get as frustrated at these things as the next guy but it doesnt change my view there is no wide conspiracy.  As an example, i believe Buffalo was lucky to stay on the park during the Beaton game last year.  Then i dont think he should have been sent off against Motherwell or Aberdeen.  We get away with some things and we are on the bad side of others.  Its easy to remember the bad ones and overlook the ones we get away with.

Same with the other mob.

 

I get that to an extent too.

I hear / see wrong decisions for and against our opponents in their matches I watch or on the highlights. I did think that was the same for us, but by some distance more were against us rather than in our favour.

But this season alone 4 games against us have seemed more than incompetence alone. Last games v the sheep and Hivs and last 2 v the scum. Multiple big decisions, including penalties, 2nd yellows, offsides for goals, handball goals,smashes to players faces, etc all going wrongly against. In those games I cant really think of any similar incomprehensible ones going for. Nor really for the season in general. I cant think of any game where I left thinking by fuck the ref done us favours (wrongly) there. Can you?

So either its shite reffing with utter incompetence or not. If it is, where are the counter decisions in their numbers that logic would suggest would also occur?  If there's minimal, or none, are we really just to accept incompetence thunders en masse rapidly in one direction but barely a trickle the other direction? Really?  If it's not simple incompetence, then what is it?

[TheLawMan 6,240]

7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

I get that to an extent too.

I hear / see wrong decisions for and against our opponents in their matches I watch or on the highlights. I did think that was the same for us, but by some distance more were against us rather than in our favour.

But this season alone 4 games against us have seemed more than incompetence alone. Last games v the sheep and Hivs and last 2 v the scum. Multiple big decisions, including penalties, 2nd yellows, offsides for goals, handball goals,smashes to players faces, etc all going wrongly against. In those games I cant really think of any similar incomprehensible ones going for. Nor really for the season in general. I cant think of any game where I left thinking by fuck the ref done us favours (wrongly) there. Can you?

So either its shite reffing with utter incompetence or not. If it is, where are the counter decisions in their numbers that logic would suggest would also occur?  If there's minimal, or none, are we really just to accept incompetence thunders en masse rapidly in one direction but barely a trickle the other direction? Really?  If it's not simple incompetence, then what is it?

I dont watch any of their games unless its v us.  But i hear colleagues and others in the pub etc moaning just as much as i moan about our decisions.  The one thing i do know is that the Stats prove 100% there is no bias against celtic so im readily available to shoot down anyone shouting conspiracy on their side.

But they genuinely believe the refs and SFA are out to stop 10 in a row at all costs.  And we have the above saying the refs and SFA are out to give them 10 at all costs.

PS - I dont agree with it being shite reffing or utter incompetence.  I am 100% of the opinion that officials make far less mistakes than players or managers.  And they dont get 10 replays to get it right.  Ive screamed black and blue at decisions both at the games and on telly then watched replays and had to have a bit of humble pie afterwards.


 

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

1 hour ago, Rfc52 said:

Don't get me wrong madden was fucking atrocious on Wednesday but nothing compares to John Beaton vs hibs in the 2 - 3 defeat at Ibrox 

Me my dad and fellow bus member were talking about the referee against Aberdeen on Wednesday night before the game and how that performance reminded us all of how bad Beaton was against Hibs, then Madden happened

Since Pittodrie the amount of game changing decisions that have went against us is alarming, nobody wants to talk about referees or linesmen but it seems every single game now there's always a big moment in a game which goes against us. 

[TopCat 4,511]

Tannerall is right .........the game is corrupt......but what can we do about it?......... the media are also biased against us.........again, what can we do about it?

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,724]

16 minutes ago, TheLawMan said:

I dont watch any of their games unless its v us.  But i hear colleagues and others in the pub etc moaning just as much as i moan about our decisions.  The one thing i do know is that the Stats prove 100% there is no bias against celtic so im readily available to shoot down anyone shouting conspiracy on their side.

But they genuinely believe the refs and SFA are out to stop 10 in a row at all costs.  And we have the above saying the refs and SFA are out to give them 10 at all costs.

PS - I dont agree with it being shite reffing or utter incompetence.  I am 100% of the opinion that officials make far less mistakes than players or managers.  And they dont get 10 replays to get it right.  Ive screamed black and blue at decisions both at the games and on telly then watched replays and had to have a bit of humble pie afterwards.


 

I do watch other scottish football but dont see every minute of every match. The way I do or try to with us. Thats why I compare how we're treated in our matches, I think thats reasonable justification.

In those 4 games I mentioned do you think the refereeing was fair and acceptable?

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,724]

16 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

Me my dad and fellow bus member were talking about the referee against Aberdeen on Wednesday night before the game and how that performance reminded us all of how bad Beaton was against Hibs, then Madden happened

Since Pittodrie the amount of game changing decisions that have went against us is alarming, nobody wants to talk about referees or linesmen but it seems every single game now there's always a big moment in a game which goes against us. 

Or in the scum league game 96 minutes worth of moments.

[TheLawMan 6,240]

2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

I do watch other scottish football but dont see every minute of every match. The way I do or try to with us. Thats why I compare how we're treated in our matches, I think thats reasonable justification.

In those 4 games I mentioned do you think the refereeing was fair and acceptable?

In those 4 games, by a country mile, the decision count went against us in every one of them.

Is that fair ?  Defo not.

Is that acceptable ? Defo not.

Do i believe the refs or officials set out to do it ?  Defo not.

I will say however that despite my views and what i say on bias etc, the only game that has made me uncomfortable about my views or certainly peaked my interest was ironically the CP game we won.  

That tested my resolve and im not sure if you saw the video that was pulled together with multiple incidents identified.

 

[Hadron Collider 30,884]

14 hours ago, tannerall said:

Call me cynical, but it is so fucking obvious Scottish referees have been leant on to stop us winning the league directly through the SFA,. The actions of the SFA encouraged and endorsed by higher politically minded haters who affiliate with a celtic, republican, socialist, catholic biased culture.

But now the tims have won a few trebles their main interest is in their possible 9th and 10th title. I believe refs will be encouraged in every way to fulfiil this with support from the SFA heirachy. 

However, the joker in the corrupt SFA pack is in my opinion, the cup competitions, cellic don't need them now  if they win the league, and the next one, then the next.....    Their fans and corrupt enablers will accept the tainted league titles.  However they, the other clubs, and the SFA will still want to, even need to bring in the blue pounds.    

And to bring in the blue pounds the last thing they want to do is have us Gers fans losing interest or boycotting, so I think they'll throw us the occasional filip by the way of the occasional cup trophy. 

Paranoid me ? No, I'm a down to earth, staunch hard working Scot, who has met a lot of people, and travelled the world a bit.    And one thing I know is that corruption abounds everywhere and that it's endemic in Scottish football to a stranglehold level.    

Most knowledgable fans are aware of the corruption in Eastern European states before the Iron Curtain fell,  the traditional corruption in Italian football that peaked around 20 years ago, the corrupt decisions in European football competitions in the 60s, 70s and 80s (Brian Clough knew, and called it).

I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable football fan, but I never believed that one of the worst, most shameful most blatant and obvious corruptions would be used against my very own football club in Scotland. 

Bad and sad times indeed, but let' s see how we get on against Hamilton in the cup........I'm expecting a much better refereeing performance, even neutral...................

 

 

 

They will let us win fuck all mate. We have to do this on our own in spite of the cheating bastards. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,724]

Just now, TheLawMan said:

In those 4 games, by a country mile, the decision count went against us in every one of them.

Is that fair ?  Defo not.

Is that acceptable ? Defo not.

Do i believe the refs or officials set out to do it ?  Defo not.

I will say however that despite my views and what i say on bias etc, the only game that has made me uncomfortable about my views or certainly peaked my interest was ironically the CP game we won.  

That tested my resolve and im not sure if you saw the video that was pulled together with multiple incidents identified.

 

I have seen a compilation. 👍 That game was on a par with Beaton Hivs for me.

I guess I'm at a loss as to how based on common sense/ logic / law of averages in 4 games not only did the big wrong decision count go against us but our collective count was imo zero. Country mile against and 0 for. Not fair, not acceptable, and as you say hugely against us.

Take the emotion out of it and if you were considering another situation excluding Rangers, I'm pretty sure you'd be thinking the circumstances suggested a pretty sinister situation.

No one seems able to name a game we came out with wrong but favourable decisions. No one can name numerous big decisions wrongly in our favour this season. Most seem to accept and agree that, by a distance equivalent to your country mile, decisions have gone against. And as I say in 4 combined games that were the worst I'm not even sure we had any in our favour..

That's not natural, it's not logical, it cant simply be incompetence. So what is it, that's the million dollar or potentially league title defining question.

[Don54 25,517]

9 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Slight flaw is that in the last 2 seasons he's reffed the scum 5 times with 5 victories for them, and us 3 times with 2 draws and only 1 victory.

These alleged bloody Rangers supporting refs really are shite at helping us out.

I didn't say that I believed   it.   Sadly Rangers supporting refs  are from a bygone era.

[soulboy 2,518]

7 hours ago, giffnockger said:

If we had taken our chances in cup final there not only would we have won, we woulda embarrassed them. We got beat not because of the refs but because we missed 7-8 chances.

The ref never saw lurch was a yard off his line when alfredo took the pen so it is the refs fault 

[Don54 25,517]

8 hours ago, eejay the dj said:

When the fuk did Alan muir ever get a Rangers game or big match for that matter 🤣🤣

As far as I know   giving us a decision in that game ruled him out of any of our games since  , sporting integrity has to be upheld   

[ZZed 4,510]

I expect nothing from the Refs and they live up to expectations all the time. Rangers play against 14 men every game.

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10 hours ago, loyalfollower said:

Depends on who the ref is imo.  Madden has been giving dodgy decisions against us since McCoist last season in charge, Beaton is always hit n miss, Thomson- you just knew it would be an inconsistent refereeing performance.     Corruption?  I don’t like think that there would be but I do think that we in particular are reffed to a different standard-  if Morelos does what Griffiths did them he’s either off or hit with retrospective punishment.   Sometimes I think that refs give the benefit of doubt towards the opposing players especially at ibrox where you can see the other side is giving 150%.

not that it’s the right way to referee a game but that’s what I think

To give other teams consistent benefit of doubt is surely in itself bias ? 

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8 hours ago, Rfc52 said:

I can't comment on other games as I don't watch anyone else., but I've seen utterly baffling decisions in games involving us for both sides. 

You've also got things like the cup final winner for them that wasnt anything to do. With the ref but the incompetency of the linesman and tbh it's the linesmen who seem to get away with the prize as everyone focuses on the refs when at times a strong and comoetant linesman would be helping the ref as they should. 

For example a few fouls vs hibs were right infront of the linesman and he never alerted the ref too them. Don't get me wrong madden was fucking atrocious on Wednesday but nothing compares to John Beaton vs hibs in the 2 - 3 defeat at Ibrox 

Mate it’s ridiculous just how inactive our linesmen in Scotland are, for years I’ve said during most games all they do is just run up and down the line hardly ever getting involved in any decision, especially throw ins which is a primary part of their jobs, 9 times out of 10 they wait till the ref decides who’s throw it is until raising their flag in agreement. Unless it’s some tarrier cunt at pittodrie who fictitiously see Morelos booting cunts. 

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1 minute ago, 1690tamRFC said:

Mate it’s ridiculous just how inactive our linesmen in Scotland are, for years I’ve said during most games all they do is just run up and down the line hardly ever getting involved in any decision, especially throw ins which is a primary part of their jobs, 9 times out of 10 they wait till the ref decides who’s throw it is until raising their flag in agreement. Unless it’s some tarrier cunt at pittodrie who fictitiously see Morelos booting cunts. 

Honestly think some refs tell them not to get involved other than offsides, unless ref looks for their input at throw ins / corners etc, or if they see a red card offence off the ball that he's not seen.

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3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Honestly think some refs tell them not to get involved other than offsides, unless ref looks for their input at throw ins / corners etc, or if they see a red card offence off the ball that he's not seen.

Exactly bud, yet the linesman who didn’t see an infringement on Morelos Wednesday night, then suddenly thought he was a bouncer jumping in at the slightest hint Alfredo may take exception to being grappled about ha ha. Only linesman decision I can remember in our favour in recent years was the sending off of the tarrier that the ref missed for throwing an elbow. And that was 100% correct and in no way controversial