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    Loyal72 reacted to Rowley Birkin in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    you mock but that was meant for us 
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from delparlane in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from kelvd1873 in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    I reckon he does well in Dutch football. Sell to whoever took Lammers on loan.
    Him and Lammers partnership.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from ritchieshearercaldow in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    Pish half. And we're no winning the cup 
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from DrLaudrup in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    If we signed Shankland. I think we win the league. Cairds on table.
    He scores the crucial chances.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from AdzKyle in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    Thank god it's all over soon. Spineless bastards.
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    Loyal72 reacted to EastEnclosureBear in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    I had Hearts TV on but I couldnae be arsed listening to them ken like 
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    Loyal72 reacted to RFC55 in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    So does Britain 
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    Loyal72 reacted to The Specky Forum Organiser in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    Lowry is finished here people need to move on.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from HG5 in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
    An absolute dead rubber though. 
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from sRcFoCt in The other mob   
    I'm sad, cause this is probably true 😴
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from BlueAvenger in Dessers   
    Ah, Dessers and McCoist comparisons?
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    Loyal72 reacted to sRcFoCt in The other mob   
    I would say this is a team talk for the scottish cup final final but no cunt cares in our squad probably sent them congratulations on private accounts.
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    Loyal72 reacted to SeparateEntityMyArse in The other mob   
    Their players despise us. Even ones just in the door, or who have not connection with either club before they sign. It gives them another edge over us.
    Ours appear not to give a fuck and its fucking sickening. 
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from AGC123 in *****Official Hearts vs Rangers Match Thread*****   
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from Albion in Walter Smith statue   
    Should be a belter, work looks brilliant.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from J-Maestro in 2 year plan   
    Are you an idiot? 
    See what you've just said about Lundstram, is what I just said about Beale. I can initially say aye be a decent appointment and then say nah should never have fucking appointed this guy get him out, football ebbs and flows, shit changes.
    Like your opinion that Michael Beale is the next Walter Smith.
    What makes it different? Other than your warped mind you nutter 😂
     
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from J-Maestro in 2 year plan   
    So your opinion changed, you don't think he's like Walter Smith, and he certainly wasn't the brains behind anything.
    The fact you can acknowledge that, and then don't understand how I could initially be for Beale, and then my opinion changing during that reign, is fucking wild mate.
    You were running about likening the guy to our greatest ever manager.
    Sit down.
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    Loyal72 reacted to J-Maestro in 2 year plan   
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from J-Maestro in 2 year plan   
    You're a fucking idiot man 😂 all you've got is me saying BEFORE he was appointed that he should've been backed.
    What pish are you talking about that football supporters don't or cant change their minds on stuff? 😂 
    Telling me if a club hires someone, everyone supports that guy initially then when it goes bad, or off a cliff in Beale's case, people can't say anything?! 
    You're genuinely a clown, and you think this is some sort of gotcha 😂 climb down and learn to read full sentences you tit.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from J-Maestro in 2 year plan   
    Do you want to highlight that full paragraph? 
    You've took the bold part and ran with it, even though that's not what that says 🤨😂
    Added on drivel you've hit back with.
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    Loyal72 got a reaction from BlueAvenger in 2 year plan   
    Turns out I was taken in by his carsales approach after all. The shame of it tbf.
    Hindsight is brilliant.
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    Loyal72 reacted to ForeverAndEver in 2 year plan   
    He shouldn’t have been allowed anywhere near the club nevermind bring in his own coaching team.
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    Loyal72 reacted to McEwan's Lager in 2 year plan   
    TL;DR: We need to build a proper, sustainable, modern football department bottom up. Koppen and Robertson need time to build it. Short term: Don't sign injury prone or old players. Sacrificing 'most successful football club in the world' short term is worth it if we can build an organisation that eventually gets into the habit of winning two or three titles on the spin, have a rebuilding year, win another few titles on the spin. Otherwise we'll continue having to overspend just to win one title every 8 or 9 years and continue sacking managers and having continual upheaval.
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    We could go out and throw the kitchen sink at winning the league next season. Sign a whole bunch of players, load ourselves up with more debt to the directors and investors etc. Buy a new striker for millions and still retain Dessers and Danilo, things like that. That's the sort of thing we did to an extent in the 55 season and it's not given us any real long term success and consistency. We need to have a club wide football approach rather than just a next season approach. Players, staff and fans treated 55 like the be all and end all and that, imo, has cost us.
    Since 2015 we have focused maybe a bit too much on first team player issues without properly looking at everything as a whole. That's not a criticism per se, most fans only care about success on the park at first team level. There's obviously been changes and a focus at times in the academy, medical, sports science, recruitment but we seem to go through different approaches and ripping things up regularly in every aspect, and it doesn't always change at the same time as the manager.
    At DOF level we had McParland come in and implement an old school model of using a small pool of agents and an agency he knew, he was basically head of player recruitment rather than DOF. We've then given £10m or so to Caixinha to go out and buy his own personal preferences. Then we've moved to Mark Allen and Ross Wilson via a DOF model, before scrapping that for one summer when we gave the keys of the kingdom to the court jester. Now we seem to have a bit of a hybrid approach where from the outside looking in it seems Creag Robertson is more of the Technical Director and Koppen is a Head of Scouting / Recruitment. Lets give them a bit of time and a remit to go through the club root and branch.
    At youth level we have had a big churn in the Senior part of the academy. Over the past few years we've had people like Murty, Lovenkrands, and Johansson all leave, although I think Johansson is now back in. At the top, Mulholland goes, he's filled by promotion by Jacobs, who is out the door less than a season after getting the top role. I'm not sure what happens at Intermediate phase and below, @STEPPS BOY may know.
    On the scouting front Mark Allen built up the scouting network, again from scratch. But then I think we had quite a few leave under Wilson and it's been ripped up in the summer to move to this new data driven model. 
    Medical we've had Waller leave and come back, Sports Science seems a bit more stable with Polychronopolous and Flannigan still there, but different football fitness demands from successive management churn will have taken their toll. I'm not sure what's happened with that injury management approach we signed up to using last season. If it's still in place it doesn't seem to be working well?
    All of this chopping and changing has occurred over 9 years. The majority of it accelerated over the last two / three seasons. Hyper accelerated this past summer. We got away with having no discernible and coherent structure under Gerrard through his sheer force of personality, his drive basically held the football side together. But this is the 21st Century. Force of personality managers like him (and Walter, and SAF) don't exist anymore at the top level and any sane top level club is no longer run where they rely on sheer determination to cut through. If we want to appoint decent managers, especially from Europe, then they are going to expect to have a fully functioning and coherent structure in place. Modern coaches expect that.
    It's a hard thing to stomach but getting scouting, recruitment and the academy right, and making sure that Koppen and Robertson are in it for the long term is just as important as putting a team on the park next season. Otherwise we may have some short term success, we then eventually sack Clement, get another manager in, who will then inevitably fail as well because we haven't got a structure to support a modern day manager. 
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    In terms of recruitment for next season the first thing that really needs to stop is our saviour complex approach to signing players. At times our recruitment over the last few years resembles that one friend we all have who lurches from troubled partner to troubled partner because they have they think they can fix them, eventually realise they can’t, and then move on to the next person they think they can fix. Rinse and repeat.
    Seeing potential upside value in a player has often fit into one of two categories for us. The first is players that have had significant injury/health issues or recurring issues to overcome (Goldson, Balogun, Helander, Roofe, Dowell, Davies, Souttar, Ramsay) and the other is players that had high potential as a youngster but haven’t quite lived up to their promise yet (Barker, Flanagan, Hagi, Lawrence, Bacuna, Matondo, Cantwell).
    Whenever we sign one of the two types of players above, here, FF and X are inundated with comments that start along the lines of “if we can get them fit again”, or “if we can get them back to their best” and invariably finishes with “we will make a fortune/we’ll be laughing”. It hardly ever works.
    Out the list of the above, only Goldson has given us significant return on investment over multiple campaigns. And I don't think it's a coincidence that was because he had a fixable health issue rather than an injury issue. Morelos, Aribo, Bassey and Kamara are the best upside value signings we have made and none of them fit into the above. We need more of them, and we need to cash in at the right time (Aribo and Bassey) vs the wrong time (Kamara) or never (Morelos).
    It's imperative we don't sign a load of players that are 28/29 years old as well. We need to look at players on the up in the 21-24 year old bracket. That's where we will maximise any potential returns against on field results.
    The two exceptions I would make is an experienced 6 and an experienced CB. We need a proper footballer in the middle of the park and a leader at the back, as well as having personalities that can drag the squad with them. The biggest thing we have squandered imo from the 55 season is losing McGregor, Davis (and Arfield, sort of), with no cross over of players to carry their torch, so to speak. They were signed to bridge the continuity gap with successful sides we lost when we got demoted. Take a hit on contractual value with those two positions in order to actually get some experienced winners in the side that can take the squad with them. And ensure that players we sign can grow and pick up the mantle. If we can find a 24 year old that can fill that roll, even better. Celtic have managed it with Carter-Vickers. Why can't we?
    The other thing we need to stop is filling the squad with filler options that are expensive. Devine, McKinnon, Fraser, McCausland etc can all do jobs as options. Celtic do this with Scales, Walsh, Ralston. Why can't we? We can't be paying £4m for our 4th choice CB any longer.
    Lastly I'd want to know wider issue around culture at the club and the environment we create for players. I do want to know why players like Cedric Itten and Sam Lammers can't produce at Rangers. Celtic can sign a player from the Eredivise with a good scoring record like Giakoumakis and he comes in and while not exactly on fire, he more than contributes to two title wins and then off he goes for a profit. We seem to chew up players who do well in leagues better than ours and spit them out. It will kill us long term as an attractive option for talented players.
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    The above is the only way we get back to being a successful club long term, with sustained success in bursts of seasons upon seasons. If we continue as we are we will win the league once every 8 or 9 years while spending a horrendous amount of money, and only winning it when Celtic are in a transition period. I'd sacrifice not being the most successful club next season and the next across leagues / trophy count, if it meant we gain it back in 5 or 10 years and then never relinquish it again.
     
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