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  1. 11 minutes ago, Inigo said:

    Sands on the other hand is one of those neither, nor kind of players. Not strong enough or defensively clever enough to be a CB and has too little to his overall game to be a CM.

    Agree

    Not sure we should pay anything for Sands as, even on a free, he'd eat up a decent wage and I struggle to see where he fits in

    Tillman at £4,5m is a no brainer, even at £6m he'd be a decent shout

  2. 2 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

    It’s mental that people are so critical of  an inexperienced 20 year old flair player for being inconsistent and not being a full on grafter too BTW. 

    100%

    He's also been played out of position on the right wing in some of our biggest games this season which was poor management 

    Flair players, even vastly experienced ones with great careers, are regularly described as lazy, disinterested etc and some fans appreciate the grafters more on the basis of effort. We need both and tbf Tillman's workrate is nowhere near as bad as made out - like Aribo he has a languid style but regularly gets a long leg or a toe win the ball

    The £6m seems to be accepted as the fee required for him but I'm not sure where that's come from or how accurate it is - or was it some journalist who plucked it out his arse and it's stuck

    Hagi had an option to buy at £4.5m which we negotiated down to £3m over 3 years - a similar deal for between £4m to £6m for Tillman would be good business imo

  3. 5 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said:

    Resigning Jack if true is just bad decision making. 

    It fits in with Wilson and his not every player needs to play 60 matches a season. We'll be lucky if jack even does half that.

    When fit he can contribute. But how many more times are we going down the let's hope he's past the worst of it route. 

    Not Jack, not Scottish according to Beale

    Lundstram is the most obvious followed by Alfredo. 

    Don't see Borna or Helander being offered extensions and wouldn't term Hagi as senior at 24

    Arfield is Canadian mind you

  4. 5 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

    All cheap excuses mate.

    2 trophies in 12. Likely to be 2 in 15.

    First 11 desperately needs refreshed. Squad needs ripped up. Last thing we need are more reserve options. 

     

    8 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

    All cheap excuses mate.

    2 trophies in 12. Likely to be 2 in 15.

    First 11 desperately needs refreshed. Squad needs ripped up. Last thing we need are more reserve options. 

    Cheap excuses? You've lost me here

    You don't reckon we've had horrendous injuries this season?

    You reckon the fitness regime has been good?

    You don't think the poor fitness will have contributed to the injuries?

    You think Gio played to our strengths this season?

    You think slow, predictable horseshoe tactics wasn't a problem?

    You don't think these are the reasons Gio is gone?

    Btw you never explained how you were going to finance these 11 new players and get rid of all our shit players. To help you, as we're on the UEFA watchlist, the option of the investors plucking another £20 -30m out their arses and adding a further £10m or so a year to the wage bill isn't happening

     

  5. 2 hours ago, graeme_4 said:

    Our ‘first 11’ players are 9 points behind in the league.

    Should be buying first 11 replacements, and pushing the guys who’ve continually failed onto the bench.

    Guys like Wright, Sakala, Matondo, are all garbage. Should just get them to fuck.

    How would we pay for 11 new first team players and, if we could (we can't btw), would you expect them to hit the ground running?

    If they're all shite who's going to take them off our hands?

    If they're all shite how did they win an invincible league, a Scottish Cup and get to a European Final for the 2nd time in 50 years?

    We've had more injuries than I can recall in 50 years watching us, but notwithstanding that this group have been badly trained from a fitness perspective and badly coached from the perspective of playing to our strengths and everyone knowing their role and being allowed to express themselves

    We have good enough players to win in Scotland and punch above our level in Europe as we've shown. Playing low energy, predictable , horseshoe football has been the problem

    Yes we could benefit from some new players, especially ones who suit our new playing style but with key players back fit we have a strong base to build from

  6. 3 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

    You think he’s speaking to players that he’s then going to bin?

    As @McEwan's Lager said, he’s the preferred  choice as the board see him as the man to get more out of this squad of players as we don’t have the money to rebuild squad.

    Your accepting a Scotsman article quoting a Daily Mail article, neither of which name any names, as being official proof that Beale is talking to senior players

  7. 23 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

    So if it's Beale, the person they all said it would be all along they've guessed it?

    Yes

    They had to report on it and pick a candidate to make the headlines - clickbait if you will. The articles beyond the headlines contained little more than words with no direct quotes from anyone and he said she said pish

    If I was going to speculate to make me look like I knew something then Beale would probably be my go to guess. The alternative would be to print the truth - ie I don't know anything and it could be x,y or z. Not as effective as a headline or clickbait 

    None of them know anything official

  8. The reality is that no cunt in the media has any idea exactly what's going on - as should be the case

    Have we officially asked for permission to speak to Beale? Not that I'm definitively aware off. We'd be talking to him unofficially and get agreements in principal before approaching QPR (I know that's tapping up but its what happens in the real world either directly or via agents)

    Dyche or  Seoame are free agents and could be getting talked with  too - I'd be surprised if we're not talking to more than 1 candidate

    The papers know hee-haw at this stage

  9. 8 hours ago, Madina said:

    Between Ashley, Castore being merch pimps, and now hummel suing us, our commercial dept has been farcical for the last 5 or so years. 

    To be fair none of this is on the current commercial dept and it all goes back 10 years to Green, Stockbridge and Ahmad and the various onerous contracts they entered that were designed to benefit them and others rather than Rangers

    One of these was our retail deal which had to feed many mouths such as the 3 cunts above, Ashley and the "Rangers fan" from Dumbarton who introduced Ashley and has benefitted very tidily ever since. The last consideration was creating revenue for the club, hence we made two pencils and a balloon from retail. They signed this off on a 7 year rolling contract btw

    Essentially the club was financially and corporately raped for 4 years before King and the 3 bears got control. What they inherited was an absolute shitshow and it has taken the past 6 years and £10s of millions of personal investment to get to where we are now. I for one will always be grateful for what they have done, it chills me to think where we might be without them.

    Are they perfect? Far from it.

    Could we have better visionaries and (critically) communicators? Absolutely

    Can they take us to the next stage/level? Debatable but anyone new coming in (the Americans for example) come with the risk of being charlatans who asset strip and take us right back to square one

    For me the next move needs to be a freshen up of our executive board, principally Robertson who, for me is weak and lacks presence and Wilson who, despite the record fees, is not performing to the level we need

    Anyway, on the retail stuff, hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we'd served notice as per the contract we would be free of Ashley soon and would probably have been better or no worse off.

    King did what he does and ignored a contract and created a proper mess. Someone on Twitter who forecast what was to come 3 years ago posted this summary...

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    I'm sure King was doing what he thought was best, but I'm equally sure he either ignored legal advice or, worse, didn't seek proper advice

  10. 30 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

    Wasn't aware he was afterwards, fair enough.

    But someone other than King structured this deal.

    People at that table okayd it.

    Our lawyers also thought it was fine.

    From top to bottom this club has been amateur on all fronts.

    I believe King worked with James Blair our Company Secretary (formerly Andersen Strathearn) when they messed this up

  11. 17 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

    You think this just falls on him? Not the commercial director that the deal was ran past, and he found no faults with what we were about to do?

    Then gets us involved with Crypto scams and shell companies that have went bust, and now we have a shitey patch to put on this seasons kit.

    That guy gets away with no blame?

    Bisgrove? He joined the year after this was agreed so no I don't blame him oddly enough. Don't particularly like him but not going to blame him for something he wasn't involved in

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