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Boycott Gillette :lol: !!!!!!

We'll never hear the end of this

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Yeah Gillette are dropping him for their razor ads,they want him to do their new hand cream

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Cheating happens in all of sports. Despite the advancing technological age, most of the sports' rules have made it clear that the game official's decision is final. Sometimes appeals prevails, sometimes it doesn't.

We just have to move on.

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Out of curiousity..... I wonder how many called Maradona a dirty cheat for the hand of god.

It's football, these things happen and it always seems to be the big teams that get the breaks.

I actually like Maradona, you need some huge balls to cheat in the World Cup :lol:

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Exactly. You can look at many incidents in club and international football. Just look at Scotland v Italy when Chiellini fouled Hutton, but the decision went the other way. It leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, but we all know that these things happen.

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If this happens, FIFA can then replay the 2002 WC Quarterfinal when Frings handed the ball on the line :dry:

They need to be very careful here as a lot of this stuff will come up. However, if France are willing to give them a rematch, i don't see the problem. Also, if that were the case, i don't think a precedent would be set unless both sides are willing to go give it another go.

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If this happens, FIFA can then replay the 2002 WC Quarterfinal when Frings handed the ball on the line :dry:

They need to be very careful here as a lot of this stuff will come up. However, if France are willing to give them a rematch, i don't see the problem. Also, if that were the case, i don't think a precedent would be set unless both sides are willing to go give it another go.

France have absolutely zero incentive to give them a rematch, any talk of Henry or Domenech saying so seems like empty words to me

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If this happens, FIFA can then replay the 2002 WC Quarterfinal when Frings handed the ball on the line :dry:

They need to be very careful here as a lot of this stuff will come up. However, if France are willing to give them a rematch, i don't see the problem. Also, if that were the case, i don't think a precedent would be set unless both sides are willing to go give it another go.

There is too much risk involved for the French in giving them a re-match. They'll act all apologetic and make on as if they even care.

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to be fair if that was Scotland or NI we would be going mental as well

we would be but noone else would

I don't get how the bbc have given full coverage to this and encouraged debate and fuelled abuse against Henry/the ref/France

Then again they favour ra sellick and slate us

NI or Scotland would not get as much coverage as what Ireland are getting.

Did anyone see the SSN report from a Dublin school, was fucking pathetic!!

Would love to have seen Jim White reporting it with a smile on his face

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If this happens, FIFA can then replay the 2002 WC Quarterfinal when Frings handed the ball on the line :dry:

They need to be very careful here as a lot of this stuff will come up. However, if France are willing to give them a rematch, i don't see the problem. Also, if that were the case, i don't think a precedent would be set unless both sides are willing to go give it another go.

There is too much risk involved for the French in giving them a re-match. They'll act all apologetic and make on as if they even care.

Of course there is. It's a massive risk. Some said that France were willing though. Who knows. I don't think there is a chance of a replay, but stranger things have happened.

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1000s of bad challenges, 1000s of hopes fucked over, but it happens to the Irish and suddenly the rules of World Football MUSt be thrown out of the window because of "the craic". But no, FIFA tells them to get a grip.

Fifa rejects Irish replay request

The Republic players remonstrate with the referee after William Gallas's goal

Fifa will not grant the Football Association of Ireland's request for a replay of France's World Cup play-off win over the Republic of Ireland.

The Republic were beaten 2-1 on aggregate after France won with a goal from captain Thierry Henry, who handled the ball in the build up.

A Fifa source said: "There is no way the game can be replayed.

"To do so would cause absolute chaos for football. Fifa's rules are absolutely clear."

The source continued: "Law 5 states that a referee's decision on points of fact is final. That is the end of it. You cannot replay the match on this basis."

The FAI's chief executive John Delaney had lodged a complaint with Fifa asking for the match to be replayed to preserve the game's "integrity".

FAI chief demands France replay

Fifa insisted its disciplinary code says referees' decisions "are final".

And the situation took on a political dimension as the Irish and French prime ministers disagreed over the matter.

Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen called on Fifa, football's world governing body, to order a replay, saying he would raise the issue with French President Nicolas Sarkozy at a Brussels summit.

But France's Prime Minister Francois Fillon responded that the Irish government should not interfere in footballing decisions.

Republic manager Giovanni Trapattoni said he does not expect a replay.

"When a referee decides a game has finished I know it is impossible to replay the game," said the Italian.

"This situation has to give a chance to who is responsible to rethink. It can be repeated in the future and we have to stop it."

Irish PM backs the FIA's replay appeal

Fifa confirmed that it has received the letter from the FAI.

In a statement, football's world governing body added: "As stated in Law 5 of the Laws of the Game, and also in Article 13, paragraph 6 of the Regulations of the 2010 FIFA World Cup, 'no protests may be made about the referee's decisions regarding facts connected with play. Such decisions are final, unless otherwise stipulated in the Fifa Disciplinary Code.'"

Trapattoni's side lost the first leg in Dublin 1-0 but were leading 1-0 in Paris before Henry handled the ball and squared for William Gallas to nod in a goal that sent France to the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa and left the Republic heartbroken.

Trapattoni wants referee choice clarification

"The handball was recognised by the Fifa commissioner, the referee observer and the match officials, as well as by the player himself," read the FAI statement.

"There is precedent for the invalidation of such results. In 2005, the bureau of the Fifa World Cup organising committee reached a decision to invalidate the result of a World Cup qualification match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain on the basis of a 'technical error by the referee of the match'.

"The Football Association of Ireland is hoping that Fifa and its disciplinary committee will, on behalf of football fans worldwide, act in a similar fashion so that the standards of fair play and integrity can be protected."

FAI chief executive John Delaney added that the organisation had also written to their French counterparts as he urged Fifa to back up their words over fair play with actions.

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"When you ask me is this clutching at straws, we have to do what we are doing," said Delaney. "We have to do it. It is up to the people who govern the game now, if they really believe in the principals of fair play then step forward.

"Every time I go to congress it is all about fair play and fair play ambassadors but well done is better than well said. They're words, I'd like to see actions.

"From the French FA point of view they need to look at themselves in this situation.

"Henry is their captain and a wonderful footballer but does he want to be like Diego Maradona and his legacy to be this handball, this goal that got them to the World Cup in an unjust manner?

"If we had qualified in this manner, I wouldn't be happy."

Referee Martin Hansson and his assistants failed to see Henry's offence and Trapattoni questioned the appointment of the officials, as well as Fifa's decision to seed the play-off draw at late notice.

The Fifa rankings had Ireland in 34th place, meaning France, Russia, Portugal and Greece were seeded for the two-legged play-off matches.

Henry prevented the ball going out of play with his hand

The top four teams were then drawn to face Ireland, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Ukraine and Slovenia.

"All fans saw what happened on the pitch," said Trapattoni. "I would only like to say I would like Fifa to explain how they selected the referee for this important game.

"For this important game we needed a stronger referee - an important referee."

He added: "I would give the advice to Fifa - maybe in the future change the rules about the play-off. Play two games and at the end of 90 minutes have no extra-time.

"I will go to Fifa and advise them 'go straight to penalties'. It's better for football. I think there are mistakes in life - I've seen many situations in football but change the rules.

"All sports lose credibility with this situation - it affects the integrity of the game. For me, it's bitter. There are many questions - they changed the rules about the seeded teams, then us playing away last.

"There are many doubts that have to be eliminated. Out of the non-seeded teams we were the only ones to play the second game away - why?"

Trapattoni refused to blame Henry but believes this sort of situation could force Fifa into bringing in the type of video technology that many in the game say is needed.

"There is a 30-second stop and we clarify the situation," he said. "I'm sure in the future they will have to do something about it. It wasn't up to Henry to say 'I touched it with my hand.'"

Earlier, Republic of Ireland assistant manager Liam Brady said the team would be willing to replay their World Cup play-off match against France.

"We would go to Paris and play again," Brady told Radio 5 live.

"It will not come to that but we would be willing to go to Paris, on their home ground, and have a fair winner."

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