Danny 9 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Since Smith took over, in the league at least, we've been undefeated. Indeed, we've only dropped 4 points, 2 against a stubborn Hertz we outplayed, and 2 against an ICT who suckerpunched us when we didn't show enough zest to win the game properly.Overall though, the points have come our way, but what do we think of the standard of the actual football being played in the process? We seem to be more disciplined and solid, but has it come at the cost of sharp attacking football which is easy on the eye?Are we now more efficient but less impressive to watch?Under PLG there was a lot of movement, a lot of chances created, and, in places, pretty flowing football, although often there was no end product.Under Smith we get less of the flash, less chances made, but we seem to be more ruthless.What do you think of how we are playing at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 IMO i dont think much has changed we are still as bad :angry2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I don't think things have changed much apart from Defence.We seem to play with more belief and determination under Smith though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEFISH 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Dramatically in the past 8 to 10 yrs...the decline has been unforgiveable Mr Murray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza 21 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I think you're right Danny. But i don't mind one bit. At the end of the day we need points to compete and it doesn't bother me too much how they come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I don't think anything has changed since Smith arrived.Yes, from an emperical POV, we may have improved our results slightly but the same lack of commitment, ability, spirit, quality, creativeness and finishing is still prevalent.It's going to be a long summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueger9 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Has to be said its as sh1te as ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythechamps08 2 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I only remember 3 or 4 games under Le Guen when the football was easy on the eye by the same token theres been just a couple of games we've played good football under Smith, nothing much has changed or will change until Smith gets his own men in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEFISH 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The football will always be pesh if we have low standard donkeys...dont expect anything else and if some of you are expecting something better with the erseholes who are running the club then you dont deserve to be a fan of RFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lad 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Quality hasn't changed.... WS has just told them to buck up their ideas and take no nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 we are still a poor team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,804 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I don't think the quality has changed. The difference is we have stability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,008 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We are poor, but our two away european performances since WS took over have been absolutely shocking against not the best opposition. Apart from Molde away, we looked good away in Europe under PLG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,228 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Since Eck dismantled Advocatts team the football has been dire and painful to watch. Lack of quality players and the lack of effort and pride in their performance does not fill me with hope that we will be entertained by a skilful winning team any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Under PLG there was a lot of movement, a lot of chances created, and, in places, pretty flowing football, although often there was no end product.I disagree with this, I thought we were very slow and unproductive, anyone can pass it about in midfield and defense, which we often found ourselves doingThe Motherwell game at the start of the season and the 2nd half vs aberdeen a few weeks back have been our best play, and they were both under different managers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albahighlander 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The quality of football has been steadily deteriorating.Advocaat had the team playing well.Under McLeish we rarely played attractive football but he had many handicaps to deal with.Under PLG there were signs of more intelligent play but there were also moments of utter dross. Under WS the quality in my opinion has got poorer again, except when you know who does what he does best.For SPL our results are better under WS. for Europe our performances were better under PLG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The football will always be pesh if we have low standard donkeys...dont expect anything else and if some of you are expecting something better with the erseholes who are running the club then you dont deserve to be a fan of RFCThis is basically true. As long as we have a squad of players who have little or no quality then what can we expect. This squad is POOR- VERY POOR.We all know this so what can we expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 Under PLG there was a lot of movement, a lot of chances created, and, in places, pretty flowing football, although often there was no end product.I disagree with this, I thought we were very slow and unproductive, anyone can pass it about in midfield and defense, which we often found ourselves doingI agree on the unproductive thing, hence 'no end product'. But do you not remember the frustration in a number of games, such as Dundee Utd at Ibrox for creating SO many chances but failing to put them away? We played well in matches like these, but just couldn't close them. Where PLG fell was the lack of spirit in the team - we didn't fight, and we didn't look organised. It didn't stop the team producing some quality passages of play though; just look at Barry's GOTS (imo) against Molde.The Motherwell game at the start of the season and the 2nd half vs aberdeen a few weeks back have been our best play, and they were both under different managersSo, you didn't think we produced a brilliant display against Hertz under PLG? 2-0 we won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcockney 4 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Under PLG we didnt have the players (unfit and not good enough) to play his system.Under Walter he knows this, we now play a game to suit or currant squad.Thats the main diffrence for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc.That's not relevant. He is saying the best two performances were against Aberdeen and Motherwell first half, and I'm saying the Hearts one is up there too. The bad performances are a different debate entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc.All started to go sour at half time during the Hearts game, Dado wanted to play a more physical game only to be told by plg that he was the manager and he wanted no heavy tackling. le guen had also been contacted by psg around this time, so he was thinkin about leavin even then, If Murray had got rid of him quicker and not been so stubborn we would have been at least challenging for the title at this stage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albahighlander 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc.All started to go sour at half time during the Hearts game, Dado wanted to play a more physical game only to be told by plg that he was the manager and he wanted no heavy tackling. le guen had also been contacted by psg around this time, so he was thinkin about leavin even then, If Murray had got rid of him quicker and not been so stubborn we would have been at least challenging for the title at this stage!and the fairy queen tickled magic dust on them and they all lived happily ever after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albahighlander 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc.All started to go sour at half time during the Hearts game, Dado wanted to play a more physical game only to be told by plg that he was the manager and he wanted no heavy tackling. le guen had also been contacted by psg around this time, so he was thinkin about leavin even then, If Murray had got rid of him quicker and not been so stubborn we would have been at least challenging for the title at this stage!and the fairy queen tickled magic dust on them and they all lived happily ever after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were good vs Hearts Danny, but for every good game there were 3 bad ones. St Johnstone? D'fermiline? etc.All started to go sour at half time during the Hearts game, Dado wanted to play a more physical game only to be told by plg that he was the manager and he wanted no heavy tackling. le guen had also been contacted by psg around this time, so he was thinkin about leavin even then, If Murray had got rid of him quicker and not been so stubborn we would have been at least challenging for the title at this stage!and the fairy queen tickled magic dust on them and they all lived happily ever afterIf you are partial to fairy queens that up to you mate, but please there are children watchin ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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