Rangers face new UEFA charge

[BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293]

When we play in Europe , we should protest against uefa by not putting their badges on our strips , the tv/press and news would pick up on it and bring our truthfull side of this tale to light

[The Hammer 11 2,860]

When we play in Europe , we should protest against uefa by not putting their badges on our strips , the tv/press and news would pick up on it and bring our truthfull side of this tale to light

There's only so much UEFA can punish a club make us play behind close doors fine,Fine us ok, thats it what else have they got in their arsenal if we wanted we could tell them to shove their fines up there arse and refuse to play in their competitions i think if we took a stand other clubs would follow

[Brubear 2,973]

E-mail sent to both Football Unites, Racism Divides and Kick It Out

Don't expect a reply from eiher but was not willing to sit back and not do something

Sir,

As a representative of a UK organisation affiliated to FARE I am

contacting you in an attempt to obtain information regarding the

alledged sectarian behaviours by the supporters of Rangers FC at the

recent Europa League match against PSV Eindhoven at Ibrox.

I am the first to accept that there is an element within the Rangers

support who sing songs and chants which are steeped in the history of

the troubles in Nothern Ireland, many of which are not actually racist

or sectarian in nature, although inappropriate "add ons" can be.

That said I attended the match in question with my 23 year old son and

listened very carefully for any songs or chants which could indeed be

deemed to be sectarian. Having supported Rangers since the late 1960's

I can assure you I am very familiar with many of the inappropriate

songs which used to be prevalent in the 1970s and 80s. I was pleased

that night that the fans supported their team without reverting to any

sectarian songs.

I am therefore somewhat dismayed to discover tonight that FARE have

seen fit to report my club to UEFA for sectarian singing at this match.

The puprose of this note is to request information on which affiliated

group of FARE and the actual individuals involved who saw fit to make

this accusation despite the official UEFA representative having no

issue with the support on the night.

I can only assume these individuals have firm evidence of the alledged

offences, however, there is a strong feeling within the Rangers support

that there is a group with an agenda at work.

Any information into how FARE operate and who the individuals involved

in this complaint are would be much appreciated, as it is unacceptable

that these individuals can remain anonomous while making serious

allegations against Rangers.

[gunslinger 270]

tomorrows record has us banned and 14 days to appeal it.

[martin93 136]

tomorrows record has us banned and 14 days to appeal it.

record is a disgrace, they make up so much pish its a disgrace

[BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293]

E-mail sent to both Football Unites, Racism Divides and Kick It Out

Don't expect a reply from eiher but was not willing to sit back and not do something

Sir,

As a representative of a UK organisation affiliated to FARE I am

contacting you in an attempt to obtain information regarding the

alledged sectarian behaviours by the supporters of Rangers FC at the

recent Europa League match against PSV Eindhoven at Ibrox.

I am the first to accept that there is an element within the Rangers

support who sing songs and chants which are steeped in the history of

the troubles in Nothern Ireland, many of which are not actually racist

or sectarian in nature, although inappropriate "add ons" can be.

That said I attended the match in question with my 23 year old son and

listened very carefully for any songs or chants which could indeed be

deemed to be sectarian. Having supported Rangers since the late 1960's

I can assure you I am very familiar with many of the inappropriate

songs which used to be prevalent in the 1970s and 80s. I was pleased

that night that the fans supported their team without reverting to any

sectarian songs.

I am therefore somewhat dismayed to discover tonight that FARE have

seen fit to report my club to UEFA for sectarian singing at this match.

The puprose of this note is to request information on which affiliated

group of FARE and the actual individuals involved who saw fit to make

this accusation despite the official UEFA representative having no

issue with the support on the night.

I can only assume these individuals have firm evidence of the alledged

offences, however, there is a strong feeling within the Rangers support

that there is a group with an agenda at work.

Any information into how FARE operate and who the individuals involved

in this complaint are would be much appreciated, as it is unacceptable

that these individuals can remain anonomous while making serious

allegations against Rangers.

All the best with that mate although I think it'll be a cold day in hell before that lot reply I think

[dummiesoot 16,268]

How can we be banned without trial? Fucksake goes against the laws if the land, guilty until proven innocent? Looks like the tims are accelerating their agenda, they are shit scared they'll fail this season. C'mon rangers beat the tim bigots and Uefa.

[gunslinger 270]

record is a disgrace, they make up so much pish its a disgrace

i am not so sure they are lying here.

[BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293]

Would Fare or Uefa be required by law to give a copy of this report to Rangers before we got charged with this bollox

[aird 3,950]

Are these reports available for the public to get?

[martin93 136]

i am not so sure they are lying here.

How would they know but? We havent even been punished or had the hearing date or whatever so they really cant know

[trueblueal 2,117]

More worrying than the RSA making admissions of guilt are the words of the ever incompetent Stuart Regan

"'I know Martin Bain and the team at Rangers will be putting forward their case that they are doing all they can to try to stamp out that behaviour, but clearly the fans have let them down on the night"

I assume Regan has heard the evidence before condeming our appeal to failure

[mairydilk 22]

So did someone complain, or did this organisation go out of their way to find us guilty?

[Bud72 117]

Why was this banned, one of the great football songs.

It is not discriminating against race, fenians are not a race.

It is not disciminating against religion, fenian is not a religion.

The fenians for hundreds of years have been trying to destroy the very fabric of our way of life in Britain.

I think we should be entitled to let them know what we think of them.

I also think that UEFA have been very badly advised by these groups who appear to be full of republican activists.

These activists see Rangers fans as the enemy, an obstacle which prevents them furthering their cause.

I think I can safely say that we shall not be easily moved.

[SASA 0]

pure joke. what about celtic eufa?

[StuW 7]

record is a disgrace, they make up so much pish its a disgrace

Totally agree with you. Joke of a newspaper.

[gogzy 31,195]

No surprise. Just another example of the hangwringers in amongst the support.

wait. what

my head just exploded, did you honestly just blame the people that chose not to sing the songs for this uefa charge?

i mean c'mon, share whatever the fuck it is you are smoking

[gunslinger 270]

How would they know but? We havent even been punished or had the hearing date or whatever so they really cant know

seems we have been found guilty and can now appeal that verdict.

[Chesh 28]

Do we know the excacts of both complaints? Surely we should know what they are complaining about with out that as such how can it be corrected.

Not that it needs correcting but maybe that is the spin that neeeds putting on it to be able to do get some information and then fight against this. It's time to kick up speed and fight fire with fire in my eyes.

Raging Loyal!

[blueben_d 40]

Federation Against Rangers Existing strike again.

There were no 'naughty' songs sung at the home match against PSV, if there were any FTP add ons I certainly never heard them so they must have been a very tiny number of people if at all.

I think a wee Freedom of Information query to get a hold of the report which damns us is in order.

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899]

I have a question to you and any other Rangers fans who want to answer it. Do you think football fans should be able to sing whatever they like because of freedom of thought and freedom of expression? Not just us but other clubs too.

Fuck off ya wee dick.

Do we sing at any other club in world football 66 died and it should have been more?

Do we go to Motherwell and immitate people falling down stairs?

Are we like Aberdeen and go to a team and sing a song about disasters?

Do we sing in praise of the IRA??

Now get to fuck ya boggin bastard

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899]

http://kevin-q.blogspot.com/

I've written a blog about it if anyone cares about my opinions on the matter. I can't be arsed repeating them all on here.

Kev mate look into that cunt Graeme1873's previous posts and get him to fuck off this site. FFS Sandy and Muff had some fisty cufts and hes gone for good. Yet this wee prick is spouting the biggest load of shite ive read on here for ages

[TravelingWilBEARy 4,319]

I dont see what UEFA are hoping to achieve here because:

A) It opens a massive can of worms in regards to certain chants from certain other clubs.

B) It's just pissing in the wind - the songs will never go away and this will just give those determined to keep singing them more motivation.

I'd rather people removed their collective head from the sands and stop damaging the club but I can understand why people will be incensed by this campaign. Personally, I dont care what people sing unless it damages the club but, probably contradictory this, I dont want to see our club bow to the demands of the permanently offended.

It's a case of damned if we do and damned if we dont.

[Skelf 1,153]

Anybody know where this FARE are based

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899]

I dont see what UEFA are hoping to achieve here because:

A) It opens a massive can of worms in regards to certain chants from certain other clubs.

B) It's just pissing in the wind - the songs will never go away and this will just give those determined to keep singing them more motivation.

I'd rather people removed their collective head from the sands and stop damaging the club but I can understand why people will be incensed by this campaign. Personally, I dont care what people sing unless it damages the club but, probably contradictory this, I dont want to see our club bow to the demands of the permanently offended.

It's a case of damned if we do and damned if we dont.

Willbeary i dont like admiting this but you are a clever guy. Alot of the guys on here have already said if this was from Lisbon/Bursa they wouldnt have been as surprised. But having been in EIndhoven (undercover may i add) and then watched the home game on TV there was no naughty songs at the games. I know Build my gallows is annoying for other teams as it goes on and on and on but if thats sectarian then im affraid i will have been to my last Rangers game.

There is an agenda here and i think all the fans on these threads who are condeming TBB need to get their heeds out their arses, as this is not about TBB. It wasnt sang at Ibrox that night.