Ger for life 199 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-1635670Strathclyde Police praised Old Firm fans for their behaviour at Wednesday's match and stated there had been no sectarian singing.Well they must be deaf because I quite clearly heard Boys of The Old Brigade being belted out and NOT just by a small minority!Seems you can get away with this behaviour at an OF game if you are a member of the home support at Parkhead.Bet the SPL Observer didn't hear this either But then again this is the club that is allegedly persecuted by authorities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM6 279 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Fuck off. Boys of the old brigade was sung. Typical fucking SNP stormtroopers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,335 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Sweep, sweep. Nothing to see here folks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,335 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Roll of Honour, Up the RA, Boys of the Old Brigade and apparently Roaming in the Gloaming. Yet again this proves that the Sectarian Bill is a sham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Talk about a cover up. Wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I was at the game and couldnt tell you if that song was sung because I aint got a clue what the fuck it isNot surprised to see they get away with it tho if its on the banned list Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Roll of Honour, Up the RA, Boys of the Old Brigade and apparently Roaming in the Gloaming. Yet again this proves that the Sectarian Bill is a sham.It's a sham because, it depends on who is listening to the songs and deciding what is sectarian.It would be funny to play some of their songs to whoever the observer is (without pre-warning), and see if he even recognises the ira ditties......I bet he'll know what The Sash and Derry's Walls sound like though (and not because he is a fellow brother). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thing is, most of the ones that folk are saying were sung aren't sectarian. Anything to do with the IRA is illegal, but not necessarily sectarian. Whatever one has the line about 'soon there'll be no Protestants at all' is sectarian though. Selective media reporting, sure, but look where the source is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devref 201 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 i watched the game on the tv with a timmy and we both heard boys of the old brigade loud and clear a couple of times and it was being sung by more than a couple of hundred timms.we did wonder at the time if it would be reported.just wondering what weight if any his comments would carry at the spl/sfa as he is a copper himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Salmond the Shitebags fault. This song will be outlawed soon though and when it does Celtic will end up getting hammered for it because they ain't giving it up easily, their fighting tooth and nail for it. Just sit back have a laugh and watch the fines roll in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 i watched the game on the tv with a timmy and we both heard boys of the old brigade loud and clear a couple of times and it was being sung by more than a couple of hundred timms.we did wonder at the time if it would be reported.just wondering what weight if any his comments would carry at the spl/sfa as he is a copper himself.None, they ain't outlawed it yet as far as I'm aware (could be wrong, though) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerzzo 4 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 BOTOB has not been banned yet so we could complain about it all day, will be outlawed if they continue to change the words in the song though about the IRA Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 There wa snever going to be a bad word said about last night, not at their place and not when they have won. Wait till we get them back to ibroxx an pump them, then the story will be different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,335 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thing is, most of the ones that folk are saying were sung aren't sectarian. Anything to do with the IRA is illegal, but not necessarily sectarian. Whatever one has the line about 'soon there'll be no Protestants at all' is sectarian though. Selective media reporting, sure, but look where the source is.It's an add on when they're singing "The Soldiers Song", which of course can't be banned as its a National Anthem. Go Home Ya H*** should be classed as Sectarian now, it's sung to Hearts, Motherwell and almost ever side in the SPL at one point by the scum support with the exception of Hibs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thing is, most of the ones that folk are saying were sung aren't sectarian. Anything to do with the IRA is illegal, but not necessarily sectarian. Whatever one has the line about 'soon there'll be no Protestants at all' is sectarian though. Selective media reporting, sure, but look where the source is.I would vehemently dispute that comment, but anyway...can you tell me why (going by that logic), sectarian songs are reported, but other "illegal" ones are not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerzzo 4 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would vehemently dispute that comment, but anyway...can you tell me why (going by that logic), sectarian songs are reported, but other "illegal" ones are not?Will be down to the songs as technically BOTOB although being an IRA song is not illegal as it related to 1916, we could also argue that the song is illegal and sectarian as they carried out ethnic cleansing of Irish Protestants between 1916-1920.Unfortunately, the police who attend the games are only being advised on what to listen for rather than know the songs and the history behind them.In the end the way it is going there could be a good few court cases on human rights coming up in the next couple of years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would vehemently dispute that comment, but anyway...can you tell me why (going by that logic), sectarian songs are reported, but other "illegal" ones are not?I'm pretty sure the reason they won't ban BOTOB is because it was a folk song. It's that simple. What is in dispute however is whether the RA part was actually in the original song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Will be down to the songs as technically BOTOB although being an IRA song is not illegal as it related to 1916, we could also argue that the song is illegal and sectarian as they carried out ethnic cleansing of Irish Protestants between 1916-1920.Unfortunately, the police who attend the games are only being advised on what to listen for rather than know the songs and the history behind them.In the end the way it is going there could be a good few court cases on human rights coming up in the next couple of years.So, as I said, it depends on who the observer is, what he knows about history, what songs he actually recognises, and what he may or may not have been advised is unacceptable?Sounds like a plan to me......from Nazi Germany or a communist police state.Oh, and what makes singing about the ira, "technically" about the earlier ethnic cleansers, and why would that "technically" be OK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Fickens 425 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I don't know/wouldn't recognise any of their songs, apart from that 'ooh ahh up the arse' pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm pretty sure the reason they won't ban BOTOB is because it was a folk song. It's that simple. What is in dispute however is whether the RA part was actually in the original song.Which old brigade makes it a folk song? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Which old brigade makes it a folk song? lol, it's not the brigade that makes it a folk song. It's the evolutionary process that makes it folk. You can do this all night can't you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 So if there was a folk song with racist words would it be ok to sing that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerzzo 4 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 So, as I said, it depends on who the observer is, what he knows about history, what songs he actually recognises, and what he may or may not have been advised is unacceptable?Sounds like a plan to me......from Nazi Germany or a communist police state.Oh, and what makes singing about the ira, "technically" about the earlier ethnic cleansers, and why would that "technically" be OK?Listen to the words of the original song and not the ones about joining the IRAThey sing about the old brigade in the original song, as I said already there is nothing in the words to deem the song to be sectarian unless you have read or know about the ethnic cleansing/sectarian killings they carried out between 1916-1920You do realise it is a battle with 90% of their songs as whether we like it or not it is a true fact that Protestants were in the IRA and that is where we are losing the fight by constant claiming their songs to be sectarian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 lol, it's not the brigade that makes it a folk song. It's the evolutionary process that makes it folk. You can do this all night can't you? What evolutionary process are you making up...er, sorry...talking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 So if there was a folk song with racist words would it be ok to sing that?Well it would appear so. There is no doubt the song is sectarian but they won't ban it because it's a folk song. It's seem like they trying to find away to ban it from football solely, which of course is easier said than done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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