RFC55 108,935 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Bit like the Grand National?If they raised the height of the fences in the national then the horses would go slower thus making it less likely they would suffer fatal falls, but thats another deate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 How do you know the 90 days are nearly up ?I started at 1 and worked my way up.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandblue 366 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Please let this be correct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If this is true, it writes £63m to £70m off the oft-quoted maximum £134Deduct also, the £27m from Ticketus, if it's Ng and his new partnership with them.That would leave us with a total debt of £37m to 44m, which is almost payable at even 100p in the £, given time of course. (Indeed, the Lloyds debt went from £35m to £18m over 3 seasons.)If the media are correct that Ng is offering £12m - £14m, then, after deducting £2m for Administrators, that's 22p - 27p in the £, which is more of a return than most CVAs I've read about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If that all happens, I'm opening a burger van @ Erskine bridge this Friday, free burgers for happy faces, last meals for over the top guys You'll need to be serving fish for most of the punters ,if it all comes to fruition on Friday mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If they raised the height of the fences in the national then the horses would go slower thus making it less likely they would suffer fatal falls, but thats another deate Aye - I got that the wrong way round! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I started at 1 and worked my way up....Without being a smart arse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,297 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If that all happens, I'm opening a burger van @ Erskine bridge this Friday, free burgers for happy faces, last meals for over the top guys Can you call it "Last RBites" Please?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If this is true, it writes £63m to £70m off the oft-quoted maximum £134Deduct also, the £27m from Ticketus, if it's Ng and his new partnership with them.That would leave us with a total debt of £37m to 44m, which is almost payable at even 100p in the £, given time of course. (Indeed, the Lloyds debt went from £35m to £18m over 3 seasons.)If the media are correct that Ng is offering £12m - £14m, then, after deducting £2m for Administrators, that's 22p - 27p in the £, which is more of a return than most CVAs I've read about.Not exactly, the figures that Hillier's talking about are post-CVA, he is not saying that £6-12m will be the outcome of the FTT, merely the settlement made by HMRC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Not exactly, the figures that Hillier's talking about are post-CVA, he is not saying that £6-12m will be the outcome of the FTT, merely the settlement made by HMRCThanks for clarifying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Without being a smart arseJanuary 18th was the last day of the tribunal... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thanks for clarifying. I've found the tweet he madeDavid Hillier @DavidHillier Reply Retweet Favorite · Open@billmcc193 @rangerstaxcase re: my estimate, almost everyone has said that but remember I am talking about CVA deal not FTT outcome Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiblue 18 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 i thought i read somewhere (probably the rhebel) that we owed 20 gazillion and are goin to be docked 21pts every 7 games forthe next 12 seasons.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimatcaledonia 32 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If this is true, it writes £63m to £70m off the oft-quoted maximum £134Deduct also, the £27m from Ticketus, if it's Ng and his new partnership with them.That would leave us with a total debt of £37m to 44m, which is almost payable at even 100p in the £, given time of course. (Indeed, the Lloyds debt went from £35m to £18m over 3 seasons.)If the media are correct that Ng is offering £12m - £14m, then, after deducting £2m for Administrators, that's 22p - 27p in the £, which is more of a return than most CVAs I've read about.Were never going to lose the tax case.Never evaded tax.Paperwork issue over a few players, at most, if any.Gerry Adams’s brother at the HMRC has lost his influence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 January 18th was the last day of the tribunal...How do you know it was 90 days ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 I've found the tweet he made What ! No burger/Fish Van Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I've found the tweet he madeCheers. Your interpretation was more accurate than mine.Have you picked out anything else which would give an indication of how that would fit into a CVA? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 What ! No burger/Fish Van I hate doing this on the phone, I've added the tweet now, but the outcome proposed by Hillier is ostensibly still good for us. If it were the outcome it should still be enough to see some amateur sky-diving from the Erskine Bridge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 January 18th was the last day of the tribunal...Has 90 days not already past? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 I hate doing this on the phone, I've added the tweet now, but the outcome proposed by Hillier is ostensibly still good for us. If it were the outcome it should still be enough to see some amateur sky-diving from the Erskine Bridge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Cheers. Your interpretation was more accurate than mine.Have you picked out anything else which would give an indication of how that would fit into a CVA?Not really, he doesnt appear to be going into all that much detail, just saying he talked to people, done his sums and compared our situation to other similar ones and he sees that as a likely figure. He's not even ventured a guess as to what the outcome of the BTC is likely to be, but I don't know the average penny in the pound settlement for a CVA involving HMRC, so it may be possible to work it out if you have that figure??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Not really, he doesnt appear to be going into all that much detail, just saying he talked to people, done his sums and compared our situation to other similar ones and he sees that as a likely figure. He's not even ventured a guess as to what the outcome of the BTC is likely to be, but I don't know the average penny in the pound settlement for a CVA involving HMRC, so it may be possible to work it out if you have that figure???I've not done any average, but I've seen widely varying rates from a fraction of 1p in the £, to nearly 50p, bue most I've read have been single figure or low double figure settlements.An added factor is if HMRC have actually agreed to it, or have been forced into it, having less than the minimum 25% to veto a CVA.That will almost certainly be a veto that they will have in our case, so we need to keep them happy, but if a highly qualified man in the field thinks it's definitely a workable proposition, that maybe says more than either you or I can deduce from a combination of his words, a knowledge of our case and some googling. He certainly know the field and definitely appears to have given it some thought, after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoram1 42 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Has 90 days not already past?Today is the 90th day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Today is the 90th day.So by the theory... We should have a decision tomorrow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,935 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 So by the theory... We should have a decision tomorrow?There was murmers that we had lost this case, that was 2 weeks ago and not on taig sites, but i would imagine it would have came out by now.I wonder if the judges will show some compassion if we do lose this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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