foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 As a ST for 25 years and regular before,I've witnessed Ally scoring 1 out of 3 chances,but as a manager he hasn't done much. When Walter was in charge he left cup games to Ally and our performances were woeful.As all tims bring up, he lost effectively a 15 point lead last season.On the other hand, Billy Davies' record is slightly different.He helped Motherwell avoid relegation with 5 games left.Next season he nearly qualified Motherwell for Europe.Next season Motherwell directors sold 9 players and as a result he got sacked.Season 05 he took Preston to play-offs for Prem League.Season 06 he did the same.Later he took Derby into the Premier League. Season 09 with Notts Forest he did a run of 15 unbeaten matches from Sept which included 10 wins and 5 draws.I rest my case m'lord. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 He does seem to have the experience Ally hasnt but I dont know if we could afford him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,992 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I rest my case m'lord.What is your case? That a man who has failed in the play-offs four times in seven seasons is the man we need for a vital bid for promotion? Sterling fucking logic, big man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,051 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 PLG had a great record then fluffed in Scotland.Stats mean nothing tbh, well in my eyes anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 What is your case? That a man who has failed in the play-offs four times in seven seasons is the man we need for a vital bid for promotion? Sterling fucking logic, big man.My case is that we all love Ally,but as a manager , I'm sorry but he hasn't a clue. Stirling were bottom of the league FFS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 There's no need to compareMcCoist is a bad manager, Davies is a good manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewGers 40 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 On the other hand, Billy Davies' record is slightly different.He helped Motherwell avoid relegation with 5 games left - in the spl, big dealNext season he nearly qualified Motherwell for Europe - in the spl, big dealNext season Motherwell directors sold 9 players and as a result he got sacked???Season 05 he took Preston to play-offs for Prem League = failedSeason 06 he did the same = failedLater he took Derby into the Premier League - then were pishSeason 09 with Notts Forest he did a run of 15 unbeaten matches from Sept which included 10 wins and 5 draws - check out ally's longest runI rest my case m'lord - i wont be hiring you as my lawyer any time soon. Even if we need a new manager, this is a shite argument for billy davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,992 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 My case is that we all love Ally,but as a manager , I'm sorry but he hasn't a clue. Stirling were bottom of the league FFS!What does that have to do with Billy Davies? Why have people latched onto this idea that he is the man to lead us out of this? Exactly what part of his objectively poor promotion record has convinced people that he's the man to lead us to promotion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Jim 897 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 As a ST for 25 years and regular before,I've witnessed Ally scoring 1 out of 3 chances,but as a manager he hasn't done much. When Walter was in charge he left cup games to Ally and our performances were woeful.As all tims bring up, he lost effectively a 15 point lead last season.On the other hand, Billy Davies' record is slightly different.He helped Motherwell avoid relegation with 5 games left.Next season he nearly qualified Motherwell for Europe.Next season Motherwell directors sold 9 players and as a result he got sacked.Season 05 he took Preston to play-offs for Prem League.Season 06 he did the same.Later he took Derby into the Premier League. Season 09 with Notts Forest he did a run of 15 unbeaten matches from Sept which included 10 wins and 5 draws.I rest my case m'lord.LEGENDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfVBtoGYwuc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosstheger 7 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I wouldn't go to a Rangers game with Billy Davies as the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 On the other hand, Billy Davies' record is slightly different.He helped Motherwell avoid relegation with 5 games left - in the spl, big dealNext season he nearly qualified Motherwell for Europe - in the spl, big dealNext season Motherwell directors sold 9 players and as a result he got sacked???Season 05 he took Preston to play-offs for Prem League = failedSeason 06 he did the same = failedLater he took Derby into the Premier League - then were pishSeason 09 with Notts Forest he did a run of 15 unbeaten matches from Sept which included 10 wins and 5 draws - check out ally's longest runI rest my case m'lord - i wont be hiring you as my lawyer any time soon. How did you know I was a lawyer? I'll take the grass to court.Even if we need a new manager, this is a shite argument for billy davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 He didn't lose anything like a 15 point lead. Celtic had 2 games in hand when we went 15 clear. It was 9 at best. Billy Davies would not be my first choice but some of the crap aimed at his achievements is clueless and embarrassing. He done very well in England and took his respective clubs further than they could have ever dreamed of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 What does that have to do with Billy Davies? Why have people latched onto this idea that he is the man to lead us out of this? Exactly what part of his objectively poor promotion record has convinced people that he's the man to lead us to promotion?Because Ally hasn't won a game away from home in div 3 and LOST to the bottom club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 What does that have to do with Billy Davies? Why have people latched onto this idea that he is the man to lead us out of this? Exactly what part of his objectively poor promotion record has convinced people that he's the man to lead us to promotion?Who else can? Mc Innes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,992 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Because Ally hasn't won a game away from home in div 3 and LOST to the bottom club.I'll ask you again, what does that have to do with Billy Davies? Forgot Ally for a second, we're talking about your messiah, Billy Davies. Why do you want him? Why, when we're all agreed that failure to achieve promotion would be disastrous, do you want a man with a proven record of failure to achieve promotion?If you're going to reply without answering my question again, don't bother. I'll know that you have nothing to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,992 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Who else can? Mc Innes?Oh, I get it, it's just a "he's a Rangers man" thing.The very same thing those of us who support McCoist are accused of being blinded by. Fantastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Oh, I get it, it's just a "he's a Rangers man" thing.The very same thing those of us who support McCoist are accused of being blinded by. Fantastic.Aye cos people other than Rangers men are going to come to us in div3. :lol:Somecunt stick a thread up for Rafa Benitez Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Oh, I get it, it's just a "he's a Rangers man" thing.The very same thing those of us who support McCoist are accused of being blinded by. Fantastic.OK, can we all agree we require a new manager. Who else can we bring in, could `Durranty cut it, or Mc Dowall who had no Rangers connections except from scoring against us to secure a victory for St Midden yesrs ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Billy Davies at PNE was awful, the football was poor and he blamed everyone including the fans when they were beaten. He got results but PNE fans were glad he went. His idea of a good result was 0-0 at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 What is your case? That a man who has failed in the play-offs four times in seven seasons is the man we need for a vital bid for promotion? Sterling fucking logic, big man.Give it a couple of months and his logic,?????? talking about hysteria,Ally has put his faith on the line from day one,where the fck was the rest of them,big deal we are going through a massive change,it only makes the manager,the Club as a whole,and esp. the TRUE SUPPORTERS stronger.As in life nothing is a given.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,992 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Aye cos people other than Rangers men are going to come to us in div3. :lol:Somecunt stick a thread up for Rafa BenitezI don't think anybody is going to come to us. You miss my point. If we're just whoring ourselves around to "Rangers men", I'll stick with the one we've got, thanks all the same. The overrating of McInnes and Davies around here is baffling and - to the extent that it's built up as "in comparison to Ally" - quite pathetic too. With absolutely no real pressure at all, neither have achieved anything substantial in the game at all. With no burden of expectation, like they would have at Rangers, the greatest achievement of either man is Davies' promotion with Derby, whose chances of survival he scuttled by November and they turned out to be the worst team in the history of the premier league.Neither have the slightest experience of an undertaking like the one they would be facing at Rangers. And all those on here calling for them and telling Ally to get to fuck will be the exact same people calling for the head of Billy Davies or Derek McInnes as soon as they lost a match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Aye cos people other than Rangers men are going to come to us in div3. :lol:Somecunt stick a thread up for Rafa BenitezDo you not think we could attract some young, up and coming, exciting football manager from outside the Rangers family? I think we could if we looked hard enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Do you not think we could attract some young, up and coming, exciting football manager from outside the Rangers family? I think we could if we looked hard enough.Do you mean the likes of Paul Hartley,Kenny Shiels,Peter Houston or the turd from Leith or Gorgie Rd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,234 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 As a ST for 25 years and regular before,I've witnessed Ally scoring 1 out of 3 chances,but as a manager he hasn't done much. When Walter was in charge he left cup games to Ally and our performances were woeful.As all tims bring up, he lost effectively a 15 point lead last season.On the other hand, Billy Davies' record is slightly different.He helped Motherwell avoid relegation with 5 games left.Next season he nearly qualified Motherwell for Europe.Next season Motherwell directors sold 9 players and as a result he got sacked.Season 05 he took Preston to play-offs for Prem League.Season 06 he did the same.Later he took Derby into the Premier League. Season 09 with Notts Forest he did a run of 15 unbeaten matches from Sept which included 10 wins and 5 draws.I rest my case m'lord.Was the sacking at Motherwell not connected with money " loaned " to his brother in law, jobs being given to family members and other financial discrepancies or have I got this wrong? He has also a consistent record of falling out with chairmen and we certainly do not need that sort of aggrovation at this stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Do you mean the likes of Paul Hartley,Kenny Shiels,Peter Houston or the turd from Leith or Gorgie Rd?No, tims are off limits. It doesn't even need to be someone from Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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